[QUOTE=NJ-STEELER;526420]Anyone got elways stats when he won SB MVP?
How about Eli's 1st?[/QUOTE]
Post a Giant with Better stats than Eli like I did
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[QUOTE=NJ-STEELER;526420]Anyone got elways stats when he won SB MVP?
How about Eli's 1st?[/QUOTE]
Post a Giant with Better stats than Eli like I did
[QUOTE=stopplayn;526445]I didnt change anything, I just added more evidence to the PILE that I have made in regards to our OFT sacked qb. You look for an "out' because you stepped in a big pile of doo doo and you cant get out and you need a way out. I understand.[/QUOTE]
Out of what? You didn't do anything...
[QUOTE=RuthlessBurgher;526412]Good job comparing Rodgers' game last week to a game Ben played 4 years ago (but while we're here, in that game, Ben got sacked 8 times...the Iggles 9th sack was of Byron Leftwich).[/QUOTE]
If that's the Eagles game I'm thinking of the majority of those sacks were not on Ben. That one game sticks out in my memory as the worst performance by an O-Line I have ever seen...and that was one of the many years where our O-Line was very very bad.
[QUOTE=eniparadoxgma;526477]If that's the Eagles game I'm thinking of the majority of those sacks were not on Ben. That one game sticks out in my memory as the worst performance by an O-Line I have ever seen...and that was one of the many years where our O-Line was very very bad.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, my bad the 9 sacks came against the Browns. The sacks are NEVER on Ben its always the line, the foot, the shoulder, Arians, the woman in vegas... Its funny the MOMMENT Ben went out the sack problem stopped. Leftwich was killing the blitz as we marched down the field. Not Saying Lefty is better (just smarter). Did you see that STUPID saftey Ben gave them? Yep the Lines fault, I get it
[QUOTE=stopplayn;526446]Post a Giant with Better stats than Eli like I did[/QUOTE]
tuck and osi had 2 sacks each with the defense getting 6 total while holding the most prolific offense in NFL history to 14 points
was it the safety where they had 7 in to block (miller and RB) and the eagles rushed 4 and still came thru like gang busters
yikes
[QUOTE=stopplayn;526485]Yeah, my bad the 9 sacks came against the Browns. The sacks are NEVER on Ben its always the line, the foot, the shoulder, Arians, the woman in vegas... Its funny the MOMMENT Ben went out the sack problem stopped. Leftwich was killing the blitz as we marched down the field. Not Saying Lefty is better (just smarter). Did you see that STUPID saftey Ben gave them? Yep the Lines fault, I get it[/QUOTE]
So, the negatives are all because of Ben, but the positive accomplishments (ie. SB wins) are all because of everybody on the team but Ben?
Sure, have it both ways...no one will notice...
[QUOTE=NJ-STEELER;526492]tuck and osi had 2 sacks each with the defense getting 6 total while holding the most prolific offense in NFL history to 14 points[/QUOTE]
So two sacks warrants an MVP? Then by that standard then why arent you arguing for Deebo to be MVP in the SB? Sorry, I think Mannings last drive (yes it was a lot of luck involved) was more impressive. Then Eli did it again to show you he is the PRIMARY reason the Giants are elite
[QUOTE=Slapstick;526506]So, the negatives are all because of Ben, but the positive accomplishments (ie. SB wins) are all because of everybody on the team but Ben?
Sure, have it both ways...no one will notice...[/QUOTE]
Nice try Skip Bayless. I have repeatedly said BEN IS GOOD. That means he contributes to our wins, A LOT. He is just not the PRIMARY reason we are elite. The Defense is. This whold thread is textual proof of that statement. Sure you can TRY to dig up a bs arguement only to have me come back and dice you up again. Sucks huh?
[QUOTE=NJ-STEELER;526493]was it the safety where they had 7 in to block (miller and RB) and the eagles rushed 4 and still came thru like gang busters
yikes[/QUOTE]
I posted the footage and we didnt max protect. Ben was just in a funk that night and couldnt process. The problem stopped immediately once a qb who can quickly read a D came in