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[quote=overdramatic blog guy]If the Steelers win another championship with Ben at the helm, it simply doesn't count. The 2 titles that came while Ben was the starter will remain. Any future rings will be out.[/quote]
Please. This dude needs to get a grip on reality...or some mood enhancers. Drama queen.
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If that was your daughter? Because I have thought about what I would say if that was my son. Because people try and turn that around on me. And the more I have thought about this the more I would tell me daughter the same thing I would tell my son. She is just as responsible as he is. She was drunk. She wore a sign that was inviting trouble and the little miss DTF had a fake ID that had been taken weeks before. So you know what, if that was my daughter (which it wouldn't be) I would be just as disappointed in her as I would be if that was my son. Because I am going to teach my son to be a gentlemen and not go into strange bathrooms with girls he barely knows. And Im going to teach my daughter to not wear a sign inviting trouble and get plastered drunk and go into bathrooms with men she barely knows. I will not let my children get away with using alcohol as an excuse. Because its not for any reason.
By the way you have to know that I see this whole thing as a girl who made a drunk mistake and didn't want to look like the sorority slut. She is not a victim at all.
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[quote=siss]If that was your daughter? Because I have thought about what I would say if that was my son. Because people try and turn that around on me. And the more I have thought about this the more I would tell me daughter the same thing I would tell my son. She is just as responsible as he is. She was drunk. She wore a sign that was inviting trouble and the little miss DTF had a fake ID that had been taken weeks before. So you know what, if that was my daughter (which it wouldn't be) I would be just as disappointed in her as I would be if that was my son. Because I am going to teach my son to be a gentlemen and not go into strange bathrooms with girls he barely knows. And Im going to teach my daughter to not wear a sign inviting trouble and get plastered drunk and go into bathrooms with men she barely knows. I will not let my children get away with using alcohol as an excuse. Because its not for any reason.
[b]By the way you have to know that I see this whole thing as a girl who made a drunk mistake and didn't want to look like the sorority slut. She is not a victim at all.[/quote][/b]
That is exactly what I have been thinking for quite sometime now....She got a lawyer and the next thing you know she drops the case. He told her that her entire college life was going to be put on trial and especially that night. She knows what kind of person she has been and decided correctly along with pulling down all of her networking sites which probably contained character flaws that Ben's lawyers could use, rightfully so......
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I couldn't get past the dreadful grammar.
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where will this be seen?
on television?
i haven't seen 1 thing on TV in 10 years mocking ray lewis about being involved in 2 murders
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Big ben wins another superbowl or performs well and all will be forgiven. he's on thin ice however. as long as he don't F up no more it's all gravy. Haters will always hate, whether ben screwed up or not. I'm so used to the haters, that my skin is very thick. I lay low wearing my # 7 jersey, grant it. as I don't need any BS right now, but I proudly wear my WOODLEY and WARD jerseys with pride. I was walking down the street the other day wearing my WOODLEY jersey and some little kid around 8 yrs old yells at me "SAINTS RULE"
I didn't even turn back or say a word as I had some real situation to handle, I just gave him the thumbs up and kept on walking. but it did make me laugh... Damn, band wagoner little kids.. HAHAHAHA!
Ben will play very very well with a chip on his shoulder with something to prove, he's not in that highpower I'm BIG BEN persona anymore. so I assume... he'll do well. as will we.
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If your life is so wrapped up in Ben and the Steelers that you're bothered by this stuff, it may be time to reflect and look in the mirror.
I'm as obsessed as anybody, but let's be real here. Ben F'ed up just like so many players before him. And many of them are still your heros. You overlook their flaws. And you overlook Ben's.
What Ben did is not defendable. It's not even known. His legacy is tarnished. So what? It's his problem. And we can't even know close to the extent of it.
We should be making fun of him too. He's an arse. It's fine. It is what it is.
But my enjoyment of the Steelers doesn't come from what the players do off the field. They win on the field. And they live lives like us off it.
It's not like Ben's our kid or our spouse or our family member or even us for that matter. He's got to lie in his bed at night. And we in ours.
Football's just a game.
And it's brutal on and off the field.
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[quote=siss]By the way you have to know that I see this whole thing as a girl who made a drunk mistake and didn't want to look like the sorority slut. She is not a victim at all.[/quote]
Yep, that's about it, IMO.
I also have a young daughter and she still wears her #7 Big Ben jersey with pride.
I guess I'm not really interested in what other teams fans think about anybody on our team. Ben hasn't done anything any worse then many of my friends and favorite celebrities have done. Being accused of something doesn't mean jack to me. Granted, I'm around rockers and such, but I'm just not concerned at all.