Re: Ben Roethlisberger should settle with his new accuser
[quote=phillyesq][quote=RuthlessBurgher]The part about the lawyers he hired is stupid. He hired them because they are the best lawyers in Georgia, and he has the resources to be able to afford that. Should Ben take a court-appointed public defender instead? Dumb.[/quote]
I agree. Absolutely asinine "analysis" from Florio.
In a high profile case like this, you want somebody who knows how to handle the media. Ben's lawyers have experience with that from representing Ray Lewis. You also want somebody local, especially in the south. Ben could hire a big time attorney from the northeast, or even somebody from da 'burgh, but it won't play well in Georgia.[/quote]
And the fact that Florio himself is a lawyer makes it all the more puzzling of a comment.
Re: Ben Roethlisberger should settle with his new accuser
[quote=RuthlessBurgher]No way I'd do that. Reputation is way more important than any legal hassles.
Wouldn't writing a big ol' check just be an invitation for more money-grubbing gold diggers to target him in the future?
The part about the lawyers he hired is stupid. He hired them because they are the best lawyers in Georgia, and he has the resources to be able to afford that. Should Ben take a court-appointed public defender instead? Dumb.[/quote]
Here are the facts:
1. Ben doesn't have a reputation anymore because even if there are no charges he has two strikes against him in the court of public opinion. Most people outside of the the 'Burgh will view him as a guilty scumbag no matter what he does short of personally capturing Osama bin Laden.
2. This chick and the other one will never admit they lied or are wrong so this will always be out there and it will for sure end up as being seen that "Rich Boy" Ben "bought" his way out of both these cases if he isn't convicted
3. Most fundamantal though is the fact that Ben is a moron who lacks even a basic level of common sense. I have begun to wonder if he couldn't throw a football a mile if he could even hold a normal job. You have to start to think Ben will sooner or later put himself in this situation again. He needs to cut his losses now on these other cases.
Maybe Ambassador Rooney can get a good Irish matchmaker to find Ben a wife who can keep him home during the off season. Ben won't be able to go anywhere now without someone waiting for him to get near a female and hoping to snap a picture of "Little Ben" taking over all his active brain functions. All two or three brain cells that Ben seems to have reserved for functions outside of football.
Re: Ben Roethlisberger should settle with his new accuser
[quote=Oviedo]
2. This chick and the other one will never admit they lied or are wrong so this will always be out there and it will for sure end up as being seen that "Rich Boy" Ben "bought" his way out of both these cases if he isn't convicted
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That is really a best case scenario. We're all assuming that both of the women lied, and I'm certainly hoping that is the case. The uglier possibility is that they aren't lying, or that one of them isn't lying.
The truth is generally somewhere between story told by both parties.
Re: Ben Roethlisberger should settle with his new accuser
[quote=RuthlessBurgher][quote=phillyesq][quote=RuthlessBurgher]The part about the lawyers he hired is stupid. He hired them because they are the best lawyers in Georgia, and he has the resources to be able to afford that. Should Ben take a court-appointed public defender instead? Dumb.[/quote]
I agree. Absolutely asinine "analysis" from Florio.
In a high profile case like this, you want somebody who knows how to handle the media. Ben's lawyers have experience with that from representing Ray Lewis. You also want somebody local, especially in the south. Ben could hire a big time attorney from the northeast, or even somebody from da 'burgh, but it won't play well in Georgia.[/quote]
And the fact that Florio himself is a lawyer makes it all the more puzzling of a comment.[/quote]
His "articles" are also always loaded with speculation, assumptions and hearsay.
Re: Ben Roethlisberger should settle with his new accuser
If Ben had any sexual contact with the girl...Settle. For the girls sake...I hope it was consentual and she is nothing more than a gold digger. Because if it was a criminal act he should be punished.
Smarten up and leave those girls be. Burned once...Shame on them. Burned twice...Shame on you. Take your medicine and stop the downward spiral of your career. Payment & Agreement with a gag order on her and put this in the past. Your fault anyway you slice it Ben...Damage control is in your best interest. The educated world knows a settlement doesn't admit guilt in your position. Again, It is in his best interest to put this in the past!
Re: Ben Roethlisberger should settle with his new accuser
[quote=JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]If Ben had any sexual contact with the girl...Settle. For the girls sake...I hope it was consentual and she is nothing more than a gold digger. Because if it was a criminal act he should be punished.
Smarten up and leave those girls be. Burned once...Shame on them. Burned twice...Shame on you. Take your medicine and stop the downward spiral of your career. Payment & Agreement with a gag order on her and put this in the past. Your fault anyway you slice it Ben...Damage control is in your best interest. The educated world knows a settlement doesn't admit guilt in your position. Again, It is in his best interest to put this in the past![/quote]
hey Nasty,
great mock draft!
i agree with you that if there was any sexual contact that Ben should settle. but if there wasn't and Ben was indeed innocent of any wrongdoing, there is no way in this world that i personally would settle.
Re: Ben Roethlisberger should settle with his new accuser
[quote=hawaiiansteel][quote=JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]If Ben had any sexual contact with the girl...Settle. For the girls sake...I hope it was consentual and she is nothing more than a gold digger. Because if it was a criminal act he should be punished.
Smarten up and leave those girls be. Burned once...Shame on them. Burned twice...Shame on you. Take your medicine and stop the downward spiral of your career. Payment & Agreement with a gag order on her and put this in the past. Your fault anyway you slice it Ben...Damage control is in your best interest. The educated world knows a settlement doesn't admit guilt in your position. Again, It is in his best interest to put this in the past![/quote]
hey Nasty,
great mock draft!
i agree with you that if there was any sexual contact that Ben should settle. but if there wasn't and Ben was indeed innocent of any wrongdoing, there is no way in this world that i personally would settle.[/quote]
If nothing at all took place-
... no bodily fluids exchanged
... no video footage of molestation
... no eye witnesses of molestation
Then of course- Ben won't settle.
But, if anything did occur, and the attorneys know about it.
Ben, IMO, has to try to settle.
Better to be presumed guilty than to even risk the chance of actually being found guilty.
Re: Ben Roethlisberger should settle with his new accuser
[quote=phillyesq][quote=Oviedo]
2. This chick and the other one will never admit they lied or are wrong so this will always be out there and it will for sure end up as being seen that "Rich Boy" Ben "bought" his way out of both these cases if he isn't convicted
[/quote]
That is really a best case scenario. We're all assuming that both of the women lied, and I'm certainly hoping that is the case. The uglier possibility is that they aren't lying, or that one of them isn't lying.
The truth is generally somewhere between story told by both parties.[/quote]
I defer to the opinion of the barrister. Seriously though Ben needs to make both of these "go away" quick. As I said, right now he has no reputation and should be more concerned about keeping his career over his reputation.
It's his career that houses and feeds him not his reputation.
Re: Ben Roethlisberger should settle with his new accuser
[quote=Oviedo][quote=phillyesq][quote=Oviedo]
2. This chick and the other one will never admit they lied or are wrong so this will always be out there and it will for sure end up as being seen that "Rich Boy" Ben "bought" his way out of both these cases if he isn't convicted
[/quote]
That is really a best case scenario. We're all assuming that both of the women lied, and I'm certainly hoping that is the case. The uglier possibility is that they aren't lying, or that one of them isn't lying.
The truth is generally somewhere between story told by both parties.[/quote]
I defer to the opinion of the barrister. Seriously though Ben needs to make both of these "go away" quick. As I said, right now he has no reputation and should be more concerned about keeping his career over his reputation.
It's his career that houses and feeds him not his reputation.[/quote]
Agreed. His reputation will begin to heal slowly only after it is over, so get it over now. If it continues only two things can happen:
1) He is found guilty and pays with his career;
2) He is found innocent, but spends a lot of money to get there, has people who still think he is guilty like OJ was, postpones the reputation recovery for another long period of time.
Ray Ray's attorney will know how to best make the transition from pay off to hushing up and moving on happen in the media.
Re: Ben Roethlisberger should settle with his new accuser
[quote=ANPSTEEL][quote=hawaiiansteel][quote=JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]If Ben had any sexual contact with the girl...Settle. For the girls sake...I hope it was consentual and she is nothing more than a gold digger. Because if it was a criminal act he should be punished.
Smarten up and leave those girls be. Burned once...Shame on them. Burned twice...Shame on you. Take your medicine and stop the downward spiral of your career. Payment & Agreement with a gag order on her and put this in the past. Your fault anyway you slice it Ben...Damage control is in your best interest. The educated world knows a settlement doesn't admit guilt in your position. Again, It is in his best interest to put this in the past![/quote]
hey Nasty,
great mock draft!
i agree with you that if there was any sexual contact that Ben should settle. but if there wasn't and Ben was indeed innocent of any wrongdoing, there is no way in this world that i personally would settle.[/quote]
If nothing at all took place-
... no bodily fluids exchanged
... no video footage of molestation
... no eye witnesses of molestation
Then of course- Ben won't settle.
But, if anything did occur, and the attorneys know about it.
Ben, IMO, has to try to settle.
Better to be presumed guilty than to even risk the chance of actually being found guilty.[/quote]
i agree with the point you are making. i just don't see a settlement on the horizon judging from what Ben's attorney has said so far. of course, that type of rhetoric is to be expected at this point, i will choose to believe Ben and his attorney until proven otherwise.
Roethlisberger’s attorney says no sexual assault, Ben "completely innocent"
MILLEDGEVILLE, Ga. - The high-profile attorney representing Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is disputing a woman’s claim that the two-time Super Bowl winner sexually assaulted her at a Georgia nightclub.
Police are investigating the 20-year-old college student’s claim that Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her early Friday. Roethlisberger has not been charged.
In a statement Monday, high-profile Atlanta attorney Ed Garland says there was “no criminal activity” and Roethlisberger is “completely innocent of any crime.” Garland also says no sexual assault occurred.