It's safe to say that the vast majority of these guys are "Injury prone". Not too many guys play a full 16 game season in today's NFL.
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It's safe to say that the vast majority of these guys are "Injury prone". Not too many guys play a full 16 game season in today's NFL.
Before we start giving the FO a hard time over Worilds, can someone tell me at what time you believed he had performed at an NFL level good enough to offer him a contract extension? Often injured and multiple opportunities to take hold of the starting position without success. What do you offer a player with those stat line and failures to keep him on your team? Why would you?
On the other hand, it seems the coaching staff may have missed on where to play Worilds, it seems he's a very good LOLB, but not so much at ROLB.
Pappy
[QUOTE=papillon;590894]Before we start giving the FO a hard time over Worilds, can someone tell me at what time you believed he had performed at an NFL level good enough to offer him a contract extension? Often injured and multiple opportunities to take hold of the starting position without success. What do you offer a player with those stat line and failures to keep him on your team? Why would you?
On the other hand, it seems the coaching staff may have missed on where to play Worilds, it seems he's a very good LOLB, but not so much at ROLB.
Pappy[/QUOTE]
Worilds was among team leader in QB presssures in games he played in. FO could have made an offer and got him on the cheap by offering him security after last season which he likely would have jumped all over. Especially knowing Harrison was washed up and Woodley was a huge question mark.
[QUOTE=papillon;590894]Before we start giving the FO a hard time over Worilds, can someone tell me at what time you believed he had performed at an NFL level good enough to offer him a contract extension? Often injured and multiple opportunities to take hold of the starting position without success. What do you offer a player with those stat line and failures to keep him on your team? Why would you?
On the other hand, it seems the coaching staff may have missed on where to play Worilds, it seems he's a very good LOLB, but not so much at ROLB.
Pappy[/QUOTE]
You nailed it, Pappy. Worilds had a perfect opportunity to demonstrate his value when Harrison was out for a few weeks to start the 2012 season. However, he couldn't seize the opportunity because he wasn't healthy himself, and he ended up splitting reps with Chris Carter. His performance to start this season was so lackluster that he lost his starting job to Jarvis Jones. He finally capitalized on the opportunity when Jones lost his starting job, but even then, Worilds missed the last game of the season because of an injury.
Worilds did show some flashes at times, but he never showed an ability to stay healthy or perform at a consistently high level. You can't blame the FO when the player doesn't capitalize on his opportunities.
[QUOTE=Oviedo;590904]Worilds was among team leader in QB presssures in games he played in. FO could have made an offer and got him on the cheap by offering him security after last season which he likely would have jumped all over. Especially knowing Harrison was washed up and Woodley was a huge question mark.[/QUOTE]
If I was Worilds, I wouldn't have signed a low extension with the Steelers going into this offseason. You know that they have a huge contract in Woodley and a first round pick at your position in Jones. He would have to think that his best opportunity was with another organization.
[QUOTE=phillyesq;590907]If I was Worilds, I wouldn't have signed a low extension with the Steelers going into this offseason. You know that they have a huge contract in Woodley and a first round pick at your position in Jones. He would have to think that his best opportunity was with another organization.[/QUOTE]
great evaluation
[QUOTE=phillyesq;590907]If I was Worilds, I wouldn't have signed a low extension with the Steelers going into this offseason. You know that they have a huge contract in Woodley and a first round pick at your position in Jones. He would have to think that his best opportunity was with another organization.[/QUOTE]
They could have signed him before they drafted Jones. If anything, Jones play or lack thereof has given Worilds a stronger negotiating position. Woodley's continued fade has also strengthened Worilds' hand in negotiations.
I still think Woirlds will get only 3-4 mil/year. Whether that's doable for the Steelers is another question.
[QUOTE=thor75;590921]I still think Woirlds will get only 3-4 mil/year. Whether that's doable for the Steelers is another question.[/QUOTE]
I think it will be on the higher end of that (i.e. 4 mil). The number in my head, due to comparisons to guys like Paul Kruger, were too high. I don't see a team giving him anywhere near Kruger money (5 years, $40 mil), not after seeing the complete list of FA available. I see him around that $5 mil/year, and TBH (from the Steeler PoV), I still would be hesitant.
[QUOTE=Oviedo;590913]They could have signed him before they drafted Jones. If anything, Jones play or lack thereof has given Worilds a stronger negotiating position. Woodley's continued fade has also strengthened Worilds' hand in negotiations.[/QUOTE]
why draft jones then if you gave worilds a new contract then?
if the steelers would have given worilds a good contract, after proving nothing over the last 3 years, fans would have went nuts about it. and deservedly so.