Per Adam Shefter

Butler just visited the Steelers yesterday (Mon) instead of the reported last Friday.

So who was at the UPMC then? And if he wasn't? Why are PG staffers allowed to lie in print?

Good question, but that was his tweet according to the depot.

Yep I just pulled up his tweet and it was done 26 min ago.

what did his tweet say and did he leave with no contract offer?

Just do Google search Adam tweet

Wonder if that means he was BACK in, or if there is some kind of lag issue. Shefter's tweet came up on his facebook status, saw this today too.

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[/h][h=5]Cowboys free-agent LB Victor Butler visited Steelers on Monday; former Bears OT Frank Omiyale visited Panthers on Monday.
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There it is... 4 hours ago.

Butler: "I want 3 years at $3.5 million per."

Steelers: "How does 1 year at $750,000 sound? Come on...you'll get to walk past 6 Lombardis every day...we'll give you James Harrison's jersey...might even put your name on the back of it..."

$3.5 mil per is supposedly in the Steelers ballpark.

He wants between $4-$5 mil per.

I'm not holding my breath...but I REALLY hope we can get him. Do we have enough to do so..even after signing Spaeth, Foote?

[QUOTE=Rara;555087]I'm not holding my breath...but I REALLY hope we can get him. Do we have enough to do so..even after signing Spaeth, Foote?[/QUOTE]The depot talked about that the other day and basically he said the team could and probable sign any player that they like if it meant upgrading the team, but they will have to cut a high priced player maybe a Clark , Ike, Kiesel etc. So the cap is not a problem it's all about who gets the axe.

Also remember that they could also pull the plug on one of those rb tenders.

[QUOTE=Steelhere10;555093]Also remember that they could also pull the plug on one of those rb tenders.[/QUOTE]

I'm fine with that. Would re-structuring Polamalu's contract help even better?

[QUOTE=Rara;555087]I'm not holding my breath...but I REALLY hope we can get him. Do we have enough to do so..even after signing Spaeth, Foote?[/QUOTE]

If the signing of waste of Spaeth causes us to not sign this guy, then I will put chewed bubble gum on Rooney's car seat.

[QUOTE=Rara;555095]I'm fine with that. Would re-structuring Polamalu's contract help even better?[/QUOTE]



I don't believe any restructure will occur with Troy as it adds to the cap next year. Being we were in Cap hell this year, I think they want to be in Cap Purgatory at the worse in 2014 and some day move closer to Cap Heaven.
With future signings like Pouncey and Ben, we need to get the house in order, because Cap Hell gives the team little wiggle room if any at all, as we seen bringing in stop gaps before the Dam breaks.

[QUOTE=lloydroid;555096]If the signing of waste of Spaeth causes us to not sign this guy, then I will put chewed bubble gum on Rooney's car seat.[/QUOTE]


[COLOR=#00ff00]That'll teach him a lesson.[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=supersteeler;555099]I don't believe any restructure will occur with Troy as it adds to the cap next year. Being we were in Cap hell this year, I think they want to be in Cap Purgatory at the worse in 2014 and some day move closer to Cap Heaven.
With future signings like Pouncey and Ben, we need to get the house in order, because Cap Hell gives the team little wiggle room if any at all, as we seen bringing in stop gaps before the Dam breaks.[/QUOTE]

Okay...but do we have a good chance of signing Victor Butler? He already visited the Saints (right?) and Jets...but they went on a different route by signing another Linebacker..so does this mean he's ours for the taking?

[QUOTE=Rara;555103]Okay...but do we have a good chance of signing Victor Butler? He already visited the Saints (right?) and Jets...but they went on a different route by signing another Linebacker..so does this mean he's ours for the taking?[/QUOTE]

I'm thinking other events may surface before we have a shot to sign Butler. Being he visited the Saints and Jets maybe his asking price will come down and we could be in the ballpark. If we lose Sanders, that would free up some money to possibly sign Butler.
Sometimes I wonder if the Steelers are really interested in signing some of these FA's that come in, at any rate Butler could be a good addition to the team especially if the Steelers get him in their price range

[QUOTE=supersteeler;555111]I'm thinking other events may surface before we have a shot to sign Butler. Being he visited the Saints and Jets maybe his asking price will come down and we could be in the ballpark. If we lose Sanders, that would free up some money to possibly sign Butler.
Sometimes I wonder if the Steelers are really interested in signing some of these FA's that come in, at any rate Butler could be a good addition to the team especially if the Steelers get him in their price range[/QUOTE]

I wonder if they don't want to sign him because they firmly believe that Worilds is as great as they think he is?

Either way...I still want Victor Butler signed here and Harrison's replacement.

[QUOTE=Rara;555114]Either way...I still want Victor Butler signed here and Harrison's replacement.[/QUOTE]

I think all of us would want that, but do the Steelers want that or are they playing mind games with Jason Worlids. I don't think they have to though, Jason has plenty of motivation for this coming year, the contract and maybe lack of faith by some if he can do the job.
I'm thinking Worlids will be our Starting OLB opposite Woodley when the bell rings. Now after that its up to him to retain that spot, players like Butler could push him.

That's what worries me...is that they are have tunnel vision towards Worilds and probably won't sign Butler..I would feel more comfortable with Butler starting over Worilds. Never liked that pick...but that's just me.

Based on Worlids limited play it would be tough for me to evaluate him until I see him play a season. What he has going for him now is his 3 years with the team having some grasp of the LeBeau defense.
Instead of thinking what to do he now should be able to play faster, but he has to improve stopping the run on the edge , maybe playing time will improve that part of his game.

Why are people fawning over Butler?

[QUOTE=pittpete;555123]Why are people fawning over Butler?[/QUOTE]

As Tomlin would say, maybe it's the flavor of the month.;)

[QUOTE=pittpete;555123]Why are people fawning over Butler?[/QUOTE]

From what I understand he has has shown flashes.....just like Worilds has.

[QUOTE=focosteeler;555128]From what I understand he has has shown flashes.....just like Worilds has.[/QUOTE]
Has he had a problem staying healthy, as Worilds has?

[QUOTE=BradshawsHairdresser;555141]Has he had a problem staying healthy, as Worilds has?[/QUOTE]

He's missed 6 games in 3 years.
2 games a year.
But yes, it's always smarter to sign another teams unknown freeagent.
I mean it's the Steeler way:rolleyes:

[QUOTE=pittpete;555123]Why are people fawning over Butler?[/QUOTE]

I'm wondering the same thing.

[QUOTE=pittpete;555123]Why are people fawning over Butler?[/QUOTE]

It might just show the fans lack of confidence in Worilds. I know I'm not completely sold, but we only have a limited basis for evaluation as he hasn't been a full time starter. If we can get a FA with some potential it may help alleviate the need to draft OLB in the early rounds. I still think we need another one drafted, but I would like RB in the second (Le'veon Bell) and a Safety in round three.

Given the injury history of Worilds and Woodley, you cannot go into the season with depth at the most important position on the defense. From what I've seen of Chris Carter, I'm not impressed, and Timmons is better inside.

The appeal of Butler is that he gives you a third viable option. He is competition for Worilds and the loser of the competition should seem to be a fine backup. If the Steelers don't sign Butler or somebody else, you almost have to spend a draft pick on an OLB at some point, and probably towards the early portion of the draft.

If he signs for something like 3 years and $8 million, Butler gives an option for this year and guarantees that there is somebody under contract next year. I haven't seen enough of his play, but he could be an option, and at the right price, options are good.

Personally, I say the Steelers should draft John Simon and be done with it. The guy has heart, motor and is a true technician.

I understand that fans might not be sold on Worilds, but that doesn't make Butler any better than the nobody that he was prior to Harrison being let go. If you have so little faith in Worilds then I'd rather see if a pass rusher falls in the draft than pay Butler $3M+. At that price tag you pretty much have to have him as your starter. Worilds is on the cap at under a mil this season. If he starts then great. If he backs up the starter then no big deal - that is where he is priced. You have Dion Jordan, Barkevious Mingo, Ziggy Ansah, Bjoern Werner, Jarvis Jones, Damontre Moore all considered to be capable pass rushers. If one falls in the first or second, or you can grab the next level type, then you have the opening to allow him to compete for a starting job. Not really so with Butler if his ticket is too high.

per schefter, tomlin was at the tennessee pro day today and had dinner with tyler bray last night.

I hope they are there scouting the WRs as bray is a bum.

[QUOTE=Eddie Spaghetti;555268]per schefter, tomlin was at the tennessee pro day today and had dinner with tyler bray last night.

I hope they are there scouting the WRs as bray is a bum.[/QUOTE]

i agree, don't want anything to do with him

[QUOTE=Shawn;555193]Personally, I say the Steelers should draft John Simon and be done with it. The guy has heart, motor and is a true technician.[/QUOTE]

[B]Pro Days: Steelers' GM might see Harrison clone in Buckeyes' Simon[/B]

By Rob Rang | The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com
March 25, 2013

While the Baltimore Ravens filled their need for another pass rusher by signing veteran Elvis Dumervil over the weekend, the Pittsburgh Steelers might be targeting a rookie to help take the place of five-time Pro Bowl outside linebacker James Harrison, who the team released two weeks ago in a cost-cutting move.

Reports have surfaced that the 2008 Defensive Player of the Year might be willing to return to Pittsburgh, but general manager Kevin Colbert has never been one to wait for replacement options and, judging by his appearance Monday at a private workout for Ohio State pass rusher John Simon, Harrison may have waited too long.

Colbert was the headliner among representatives from 12 teams at Simon's workout, according to a report from NFL.com's Gil Brandt.

The 6-1, 257-pound Simon starred as a defensive end for the Buckeyes but will likely have to make the transition to outside linebacker in the NFL at this size. He struggled when asked to do so in Mobile, Ala., during Senior Bowl practices before succumbing to a shoulder injury that kept him sidelined at the combine and during Ohio State's originally scheduled Pro Day, March 8.

Despite being hampered by a knee injury that limited him to just 11 games in 2012, Simon was named the Big Ten's Defensive Player of the Year with 44 tackles, 14.5 tackles for loss and a career-high nine sacks. On more than one occasion, the high-effort Simon was characterized by Buckeyes coach Urban Meyer as the "heart and soul" of the team.

Simon demonstrated enough athleticism during his drills Monday to reassure scouts from 3-4 clubs of his ability to pressure the quarterback as a stand-up rusher. He was clocked between 4.62 and 4.70 in the 40-yard dash and posted times of 4.42 seconds in the short shuttle and 7.10 in the three-cone drill.[B] These times are in line with some of the other intriguing "second-tier" hybrid edge rushers of the 2013 draft class, like Auburn's Corey Lemonier and Southern Mississippi's Jamie Collins, among others.[/B]

Sporting similarly compact builds, as well as burst and power, Simon and the 6-0, 242-pound Harrison have a lot of similarities in the way that they wreak havoc off the edge.

If healthy, Simon could prove to be an immediate impact defender likely to be available in the second to third round.

[URL]http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/rob-rang/21948961/pro-days-steelers-gm-colbert-might-see-harrison-clone-in-buckeyes-simon[/URL]