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Now that we have Sanders signed, we should dangle him to the Patriots for a second round pick. If they would cough up a 3rd, maybe they would cough up a second.
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[QUOTE=Eddie Spaghetti;558767]where is the outrage?
wallace would have been crucified if he or his agent said something like this.[/QUOTE]
Don't worry... it's likely to turn into a crucification especially if he starts coming out with the "lack of concentration" comments as Wallace did.... just adding fuel to the fire :)
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[QUOTE=papillon;558664]according to his agent other teams were willing to make the same play[/QUOTE]
Repeat this to yourself and see if it sounds as ridiculous to you as it does to me. :o
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Not sure about the quality of agents lately. Exactly how are inflammatory comments like "My boy is going to spit in your eye in 365 days" supposed to increase Sander's value? Add that to the quality advice (not) that James got, and who was that marquee player whose agent forgot to file papers by deadline?
Maybe I could become an agent. Yeah, that's the ticket!
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So let me ask this question... it seems like Belichick has, ever since we ran him out of Cleveland, had a special obsession with the Steelers. He has never missed a chance to tweak us over the years. Is the Sanders signing at least partially an opportunity to hit him and the *'s back?
From their perspective, there's this, from ESPN Boston...
"With the Steelers matching the Patriots' $2.5 million offer sheet for restricted free agent receiver Emmanuel Sanders, New England is back to square one in terms of addressing what is arguably the most glaring need on the 2013 roster.
Here is a reset of New England's personnel at the position:
Kamar Aiken
Danny Amendola
Jeremy Ebert
Julian Edelman
Andre Holmes
Michael Jenkins
Donald Jones
Matthew Slater
If the Patriots enter the 2013 season with this as their complete receiver depth chart, it likely will be an area of major struggles. As the Patriots showed by signing Sanders to an offer sheet, they acknowledge the need for an upgrade.
The best place to do so is the draft, but here's the catch: If there is one position Bill Belichick has struggled to draft and develop, it's receivers. Look at the history of Belichick's draft picks at the position and it's shaky at best: Deion Branch (second round, 2002), David Givens (seventh, 2002), Bethel Johnson (second, 2003), P.K. Sam (fifth, 2004), Chad Jackson (second, 2006), Brandon Tate (third, 2009), Edelman (seventh, 2009), Taylor Price (third, 2010), Ebert (seventh, 2012).
Belichick has noted several times in the past that projecting receivers from college to the team's system is a lot harder than projecting how a receiver already in the NFL might fit because of the differences in the college and pro passing games.
But at this point, he might not have a choice; the best chance for the team to add a top-level receiver looks like the draft. For what it's worth, the club has hosted a handful of receivers on pre-draft visits -- Oregon State's Markus Wheaton, Southern Cal's Robert Woods, Oklahoma's Kenny Stills and Texas Christian's Josh Boyce among them.
This sets up an intriguing storyline for the Patriots: Given the glaring need, can they reverse their struggles when it comes to drafting and developing receivers? And if not, how will it affect their 2013 season?"
As it turns out, Brady has absolutely nobody to throw to on the outside this year. They really wanted, and NEEDED, this player. Spending the extra 1.2 mil to leave the Cheats in a bind at the position worse than the one we'd've been in without Sanders? Priceless.
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[QUOTE=papillon;558664]Nothing, but if New England was interested and according to his agent other teams were willing to make the same play, he'll get more than we expect for doing not much. You don't need to do much in the NFL any longer to get more than you're worth. If you've made catches, made some YAC, and scored a few touchdowns you can get yourself a nice payday in the new NFL where you need 4 competent receivers to compete. It used to be that way for running backs, now it's WRs and quarterbacks.
He only has to ensure that he heads into the free agent season healthy and some one will overpay for him.
Pappy[/QUOTE]
Not so sure about that... IMO he has done nothing to get overpaid... We dangled him out there for a freaking late 3rd rounder. If we put a higher tender on him I doubt anyone would make a move.
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As I said, if the Pats need him so bad, then trade him to them for their 2nd round pick.
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[QUOTE=B&GinNC;558797]So let me ask this question... it seems like Belichick has, ever since we ran him out of Cleveland, had a special obsession with the Steelers. He has never missed a chance to tweak us over the years. Is the Sanders signing at least partially an opportunity to hit him and the *'s back?
From their perspective, there's this, from ESPN Boston...
"With the Steelers matching the Patriots' $2.5 million offer sheet for restricted free agent receiver Emmanuel Sanders, New England is back to square one in terms of addressing what is arguably the most glaring need on the 2013 roster.
Here is a reset of New England's personnel at the position:
Kamar Aiken
Danny Amendola
Jeremy Ebert
Julian Edelman
Andre Holmes
Michael Jenkins
Donald Jones
Matthew Slater
If the Patriots enter the 2013 season with this as their complete receiver depth chart, it likely will be an area of major struggles. As the Patriots showed by signing Sanders to an offer sheet, they acknowledge the need for an upgrade.
The best place to do so is the draft, but here's the catch: If there is one position Bill Belichick has struggled to draft and develop, it's receivers. Look at the history of Belichick's draft picks at the position and it's shaky at best: Deion Branch (second round, 2002), David Givens (seventh, 2002), Bethel Johnson (second, 2003), P.K. Sam (fifth, 2004), Chad Jackson (second, 2006), Brandon Tate (third, 2009), Edelman (seventh, 2009), Taylor Price (third, 2010), Ebert (seventh, 2012).
Belichick has noted several times in the past that projecting receivers from college to the team's system is a lot harder than projecting how a receiver already in the NFL might fit because of the differences in the college and pro passing games.
But at this point, he might not have a choice; the best chance for the team to add a top-level receiver looks like the draft. For what it's worth, the club has hosted a handful of receivers on pre-draft visits -- Oregon State's Markus Wheaton, Southern Cal's Robert Woods, Oklahoma's Kenny Stills and Texas Christian's Josh Boyce among them.
This sets up an intriguing storyline for the Patriots: Given the glaring need, can they reverse their struggles when it comes to drafting and developing receivers? And if not, how will it affect their 2013 season?"
As it turns out, Brady has absolutely nobody to throw to on the outside this year. They really wanted, and NEEDED, this player. Spending the extra 1.2 mil to leave the Cheats in a bind at the position worse than the one we'd've been in without Sanders? Priceless.[/QUOTE]
And yet Tom Brady will put up better passing numbers than any other QB. At the end of the day WRs don't matter so much.
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[QUOTE=flippy;558812]And yet Tom Brady will put up better passing numbers than any other QB. At the end of the day WRs don't matter so much.[/QUOTE]
But, at the end of the day, what will they win?
What have they won?
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[QUOTE=steeler_fan_in_t.o.;558775]Repeat this to yourself and see if it sounds as ridiculous to you as it does to me. :o[/QUOTE]
The comment is grammatically incomplete. What I was trying to say was that according to Sanders' agent there were other teams "making the same play to obtain him" besides the New England Patriots. The Patriots simply offered him the most scratch 2.5 million dollars. I was probably in a hurry and the meaning behind the statement could not be determined.
Pappy