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Caaaaaaaaaam!!!!
63.9% (middle of the pack), completion percentage, 2 TD's and 5 INT's, and a QB rating of 78.3. (19 games played in his career and 22 picks thrown)
Just sayin....:rolleyes:
Sure he'll have the every other game where he straight blows it up...maybe 4 TD passes?.. 300 plus yards passing?..and he'll make unbelievable plays all over the place. But then there will always be games like he had Thursday night. And that is why I don't ever see him being an elite QB/winner of any championships in the NFL.
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I don't blame Cam for all of the loss...
I mean, very few people had any idea who the hell Ramses Barden and Andre Brown are prior to that game...
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I like Cam as a player, but I'm not a big fan of him pulling out the Superman chest celebration thingy after a TD dive that cut their deficit from 23-0 to 23-7 late in the 3rd quarter.
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Ugly game last nite
of course, I guess we won't see the steelers fans coming on here last year wishing he was our qb instead of ben
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That game sucked. But I was just glad I benched Cam on my fantasy team; thank God I picked up RGIII late in the draft. Cam might come around this season, but right now, he is not very good, at all. A lot isn't his fault, as he has been getting hammered from a weak O line. He is playing in "hair on fire" mode and that is never good. If I hadn't drafted RGIII my fantasy team would be in trouble. RG will have to put up more points than Cam did last night.
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[QUOTE=RuthlessBurgher;524461]I like Cam as a player, but I'm not a big fan of him pulling out the Superman chest celebration thingy after a TD dive that cut their deficit from 23-0 to 23-7 late in the 3rd quarter.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that irritated me too. Have some awareness of the situation. It makes him look completely self centered to celebrate like that when his team is still getting blown out.
There are also reports that Steve Smith called him out on the sideline for sulking. He has natural physical gifts, but isn't a guy that I'd want to root for.
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[QUOTE=lloydroid;524468]That game sucked. But I was just glad I benched Cam on my fantasy team; thank God I picked up RGIII late in the draft. Cam might come around this season, but right now, he is not very good, at all. A lot isn't his fault, as he has been getting hammered from a weak O line. He is playing in "hair on fire" mode and that is never good. If I hadn't drafted RGIII my fantasy team would be in trouble. RG will have to put up more points than Cam did last night.[/QUOTE]
Ohhhh, so you play fantasy football. That explains everything.
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And his number 1 go-to wide receiver isn't too happy with him either...
[URL]http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8407553/carolina-panthers-wide-steve-smith-unhappy-quarterback-cam-newton[/URL]
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[QUOTE=RuthlessBurgher;524461]I like Cam as a player, but I'm not a big fan of him pulling out the Superman chest celebration thingy after a TD dive that cut their deficit from 23-0 to 23-7 late in the 3rd quarter.[/QUOTE]
Seriously.... I was thinking the same thing.
When he's having a bad game he'll have a towel draped over his head trying to hide himself from the camera and everyone else.... If he's having a good game.... he's running around on the sidelines like a child..
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[QUOTE=phillyesq;524469]Yeah, that irritated me too. Have some awareness of the situation. It makes him look completely self centered to celebrate like that when his team is still getting blown out.
There are also reports that Steve Smith called him out on the sideline for sulking. He has natural physical gifts, but isn't a guy that I'd want to root for.[/QUOTE]
he sulked in his post game press conference
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[QUOTE=phillyesq;524469]Yeah, that irritated me too. Have some awareness of the situation. It makes him look completely self centered to celebrate like that when his team is still getting blown out.
There are also reports that Steve Smith called him out on the sideline for sulking. He has natural physical gifts, but isn't a guy that I'd want to root for.[/QUOTE]
I agree 100%..... How can you celebrated like that when you've played an embarrassing game. CAM is self centered. He was the exact same way in Auburn. I'm also glad that Smith called him out for that. This is the second time this season he's been "sulking". Like I just posted, he sits by himself on the sidelines "sulking" with a towel over his head when he's playing bad. When he's playing good, he's running around like a little child on the sidelines... and literally looking for the camera spotlight.
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The dude is only 23 years old. Yes, he has some growing up to do, but so does everyone. Shoot, our QB needed one more life lesson at 28 yrs. of age.
I think it will click for Newton. Many people put too much pressure on these kids too early. Especially at the QB position.
Smith did what should have been done by any of those veterans in the Carolina locker room. It's up to Newton to hear and understand the lesson. Sometimes lessons need to be taught more than once.
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Where was his defense!? O-line sucked! No Running game!!
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[QUOTE=8467thekraken;524498]The dude is only 23 years old. Yes, he has some growing up to do, but so does everyone. Shoot, our QB needed one more life lesson at 28 yrs. of age.
I think it will click for Newton. Many people put too much pressure on these kids too early. Especially at the QB position.
Smith did what should have been done by any of those veterans in the Carolina locker room. It's up to Newton to hear and understand the lesson. Sometimes lessons need to be taught more than once.[/QUOTE]
Too much pressure on these kids? Are you kidding me? At 23, he should be an adult. Cam brings the spotlight on himself which brings more pressure. He always had.. even at Auburn.
If the pressure is too much, Cam has the opportunity to leave the NFL and join the "regular" workforce if he chooses. For some reason, I think Cam will choose the NFL and enjoy the fruits of being rich and having fame.
This isn't a knock on just Cam either. To your point, our Big Ben has had his faults and they aren't excusable either.
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Yep at 23 every dude here with millions and super fame would have been a good little boy. :) Plenty of people are not grown up at 30. Some are in there late teens. Different folks different strokes. Give him a break. Had a bad game and was a baby about it. He will learn I think.
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[QUOTE=SS Laser;524512]Different folks different strokes.[/QUOTE]
Byron Leftwich agrees. Watchu talkin bout, Cam Newton?
[IMG]http://www.sportaphile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/leftwich-colemany.jpg[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=SS Laser;524512]Yep at 23 every dude here with millions and super fame would have been a good little boy. :) Plenty of people are not grown up at 30. Some are in there late teens. Different folks different strokes. Give him a break. Had a bad game and was a baby about it. He will learn I think.[/QUOTE]
He's always a baby .. when he's having a bad game. I live in S. Carolina so we obviously see a lot of Cam. This wasn't a one time thing. The guy is a good athlete and he proved me wrong last year with the way he played as a rookie. With that being said, he's always been a little cry baby when he's not at the top of his game. Man up Cam.
Speaking of that, I saw a sign last night that said "Superman Cam". They should have changed it to "Man Up! Cam"
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[QUOTE=NJ-STEELER;524495]he sulked in his post game press conference[/QUOTE]
Because he is a child, mentally. That is what will define whether he will become anything more than a highlight-film guy. He is mentally VERY immature (not just a little bit). Guys like this look GREAT when things are rolling... but once adversity hits, they have no maturity (e.g. Jay Cutler) to overcome it.
He is very self-centered to boot.
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[QUOTE=steelz09;524516]He's always a baby .. when he's having a bad game. [U][SIZE=3]I live in S. Carolina so we obviously see a lot of Cam.[/SIZE][/U] This wasn't a one time thing. The guy is a good athlete and he proved me wrong last year with the way he played as a rookie. With that being said, he's always been a little cry baby when he's not at the top of his game. Man up Cam.
Speaking of that, I saw a sign last night that said "Superman Cam". They should have changed it to "Man Up! Cam"[/QUOTE]
Oh NOW we get it.
Yeah you saw a whole lotta Cam. You saw him score more than Wilt Chamberlain back in the day.
Just HOW MANY TDs did he account on your hometown team in only TWO GAMES. Something like ELEVEN?
I think the only "sulking" you saw watching Cam torch your team was that of your fans. :)
The best SC team in recent memory had its dream season destroyed by Cam.
No Cam and you guys take the SEC....easy.
Truth is you saw Cam gloat "like a little kid" way more than you should have because HE DOMINATED your team in an embarrassing way.
See I am kinda biased too.... my roots are about a half hour from Auburn U.
The fact that you keep bringing up the kid in college shows me the pain of those loses colors your opinion.
Let me just open that wound with the video below :D :
[video=vimeo;29628909]http://vimeo.com/29628909[/video]
Yup, "[COLOR=#CCCCCC]he's running around like a little child on the sidelines... and literally looking for the camera spotlight."
Put in THIS CONTEXT it is no wonder it burns you up. :)[/COLOR]
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[B]Has Cam Newton lost Charlotte?[/B]
By Chris Chase, USA TODAY
Sep 26, 2012
The second-year Carolina Panthers quarterback was the subject of a scathing editorial cartoon in Wednesday's edition of The Charlotte Observer. He's depicted performing his patented Superman touchdown celebration only to reveal a Hello Kitty logo on his chest.
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[B]Cam Newton ripped in 'Charlotte Observer' cartoon[/B]
The cartoon appears six days after the Panthers' 36-7 loss to the New York Giants. Newton was roundly criticized for emphatically celebrating a touchdown with his team down 23-0 in the third quarter against the defending Super Bowl champions. Later in the game, veteran wide receiver Steve Smith reportedly had "unchoice words" for Newton after the quarterback sulked on the bench following his third interception.
Newton's behavior in the postgame press conference was similarly sulky.
On Sunday, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported Newton was seeing a "mind coach" to help him deal with the pressure of being an NFL quarterback. Newton denied the report.
The 2011 No. 1 overall draft pick, Newton shattered a number of NFL rookie quarterback records last season, including those for most passing and rushing yards. But his record as a starter is a middling 7-12 and this, evidently, is a cause for the Observer to jump ship on the Panthers quarterback three games into his second season.
Chill out, Charlotte. Cam is under contract for two more seasons after this one. There will be plenty of time to make fun of him if he continues to lose (which I don't think he will).
[URL]http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2012/09/26/cam-newton-charlotte-observer-cartoon/70001182/1#.UGNN782aLO8[/URL]
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[QUOTE=hawaiiansteel;525526][B]Has Cam Newton lost Charlotte?[/B]
By Chris Chase, USA TODAY
Sep 26, 2012
The second-year Carolina Panthers quarterback was the subject of a scathing editorial cartoon in Wednesday's edition of The Charlotte Observer. He's depicted performing his patented Superman touchdown celebration only to reveal a Hello Kitty logo on his chest.
[IMG]http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/gameon/2012/09/26/render-x-wide-community.jpg[/IMG]
[B]Cam Newton ripped in 'Charlotte Observer' cartoon[/B]
The cartoon appears six days after the Panthers' 36-7 loss to the New York Giants. Newton was roundly criticized for emphatically celebrating a touchdown with his team down 23-0 in the third quarter against the defending Super Bowl champions. Later in the game, veteran wide receiver Steve Smith reportedly had "unchoice words" for Newton after the quarterback sulked on the bench following his third interception.
Newton's behavior in the postgame press conference was similarly sulky.
On Sunday, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported Newton was seeing a "mind coach" to help him deal with the pressure of being an NFL quarterback. Newton denied the report.
The 2011 No. 1 overall draft pick, Newton shattered a number of NFL rookie quarterback records last season, including those for most passing and rushing yards. But his record as a starter is a middling 7-12 and this, evidently, is a cause for the Observer to jump ship on the Panthers quarterback three games into his second season.
Chill out, Charlotte. Cam is under contract for two more seasons after this one. There will be plenty of time to make fun of him if he continues to lose (which I don't think he will).
[URL]http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2012/09/26/cam-newton-charlotte-observer-cartoon/70001182/1#.UGNN782aLO8[/URL][/QUOTE]
Yep! I predicted this all last year. I said teams would adjust to him after they had more film on him. And I predicted he would struggle when faced with adversity. I said we will see the true Cam Newton. And sure enough he has arrived. Man I got ripped from this forum. Oh well. Aint no thang but a chicken wang!
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[QUOTE=D Rock;524488]Ohhhh, so you play fantasy football. That explains everything.[/QUOTE]
Wow, what a dick thing to say. And guess what? How many other people play FF in here? How many guys in the media play it? How many players play it? As a matter of fact, most "cool" people play it, so that makes you....? This is yet another example of you trying to start crap when I was just posting an innocent, non-combative thought. Eh, some people are just dickish. What are you gonna do?
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[QUOTE=lloydroid;525538]Wow, what a dick thing to say. And guess what? How many other people play FF in here? How many guys in the media play it? How many players play it? As a matter of fact, most "cool" people play it, so that makes you....? This is yet another example of you trying to start crap when I was just posting an innocent, non-combative thought. Eh, some people are just dickish. What are you gonna do?[/QUOTE]
I play. Can I be one of the "cool people"? :lol:
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19 Games into his career and people are patting themselves on the back? LOL...
I'm sure most #1 draft picks at QB had it all figured out 3 games into their second season.
Where was this bragadocious post after the New Orleans win? I live in Charlotte and I think Cam will struggle this year but its because the interior OL is horrible...
He has some growing up to do but plenty of Giant fans were bashing Eli for his sideline faces early on. The Panthers suck... and their GM was a freaking sports writer before he got this gig. The problem with the Panthers runs deep. They are resigning bad players to save face and gave some guy named Charles Johnson 70 million dollars. They have 6 RB's on the roster and 3 WR's.... and they moved up to draft Armani Edwards, made him a WR/KR..... he can't catch, can't return and they still gave him a roster spot when its obvious he doesn't fit into their plans.
Just sayin'
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[QUOTE=feltdizz;525545]19 Games into his career and people are patting themselves on the back? LOL...
I'm sure most #1 draft picks at QB had it all figured out 3 games into their second season.
Where was this bragadocious post after the New Orleans win? I live in Charlotte and I think Cam will struggle this year but its because the interior OL is horrible...
He has some growing up to do but plenty of Giant fans were bashing Eli for his sideline faces early on. The Panthers suck... and their GM was a freaking sports writer before he got this gig. The problem with the Panthers runs deep. They are resigning bad players to save face and gave some guy named Charles Johnson 70 million dollars. They have 6 RB's on the roster and 3 WR's.... and they moved up to draft Armani Edwards, made him a WR/KR..... he can't catch, can't return and they still gave him a roster spot when its obvious he doesn't fit into their plans.
Just sayin'[/QUOTE]
That goes both ways. Remember last year in half a season there were fans patting themselves and Newton all over. Some even went as far as saying they would prefer him over Ben.
No comparison as far as what is between the ears of Cam Newton and a young Eli Manning. Not even close.
And I will say it again, Newton is a freak talent-wise, and will have the every other game where he blows it out the water but he also always going to have those games like he had last Thursday night. And I believe they will show up several times a year. And is what will prevent him from ever being an elite QB who actually wins a championship.
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[QUOTE=lloydroid;525538]Wow, what a dick thing to say. And guess what? How many other people play FF in here? How many guys in the media play it? How many players play it? As a matter of fact, most "cool" people play it, so that makes you....? This is yet another example of you trying to start crap when I was just posting an innocent, non-combative thought. Eh, some people are just dickish. What are you gonna do?[/QUOTE]
:cool:
See that smiley? That's me. Being cool.
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[QUOTE=Dee Dub;525547]That goes both ways. Remember last year in half a season there were fans patting themselves and Newton all over. Some even went as far as saying they would prefer him over Ben.
No comparison as far as what is between the ears of Cam Newton and a young Eli Manning. Not even close.
And I will say it again, Newton is a freak talent-wise, and will have the every other game where he blows it out the water but he also always going to have those games like he had last Thursday night. And I believe they will show up several times a year. And is what will prevent him from ever being an elite QB who actually wins a championship.[/QUOTE]
I'm not talking about what Eli has between his ears... he is a Manning. I'm talking about the expressions and the reactions by the fans in his second year. Gruden was on Mike and Mike and made a great point... a lot of young QB's struggle with Thursday Night games because the turn around is so short. Putting up a stinker this early in his career isn't a gotcha moment IMO and he is on a sub par team. Having a few bad games doesn't mean he won't have a great future. Will he win a SB? Probably not... but I doubt Rivers, Ryan, Luck and a few others will win one as well.
Eli has put together a few runs in the playoffs but he puts up a few stinkers every year. The only difference is he has a dominant DL who keeps him in games. The only reason I keep using Eli is because they just played each other and Panther fans are slobbering over Eli like he has always been a great QB. I've been an Eli fan since he was at Ole Miss but fans forget how bad he was bashed early on. Cam bashing is popular because he has a bunch of commercials but what did people really expect from a Panther team this year?
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[QUOTE=Dee Dub;525547]That goes both ways. Remember last year in half a season there were fans patting themselves and Newton all over. Some even went as far as saying they would prefer him over Ben.
No comparison as far as what is between the ears of Cam Newton and a young Eli Manning. Not even close.
And I will say it again, Newton is a freak talent-wise, and will have the every other game where he blows it out the water but he also always going to have those games like he had last Thursday night. And I believe they will show up several times a year. And is what will prevent him from ever being an elite QB who actually wins a championship.[/QUOTE]
Ain't nothing wrong with Cam Newton! So, he had a bad game. Ben has them all the time! Ben can't seem to win a game with no defense or running game and he's been in the league for 9 years and called by some, an elite QB. SO! Why do you expect Cam to be able to accomplish this in his second year?
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[QUOTE=feltdizz;525574]I'm not talking about what Eli has between his ears... he is a Manning. I'm talking about the expressions and the reactions by the fans in his second year. Gruden was on Mike and Mike and made a great point... a lot of young QB's struggle with Thursday Night games because the turn around is so short. Putting up a stinker this early in his career isn't a gotcha moment IMO and he is on a sub par team. Having a few bad games doesn't mean he won't have a great future. Will he win a SB? Probably not... but I doubt Rivers, Ryan, Luck and a few others will win one as well.
Eli has put together a few runs in the playoffs but he puts up a few stinkers every year. The only difference is he has a dominant DL who keeps him in games. The only reason I keep using Eli is because they just played each other and Panther fans are slobbering over Eli like he has always been a great QB. I've been an Eli fan since he was at Ole Miss but fans forget how bad he was bashed early on. Cam bashing is popular because he has a bunch of commercials but what did people really expect from a Panther team this year?[/QUOTE]
Regardless of the team around them. you can tell RGIII and Andrew Luck are far superior QB's than Cam Newton. It's pretty obvious to me. Andrew Luck's team is not that good at all but you tell that kid is far better and will have a more successful career as an NFL QB. Same with RGIII.
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[QUOTE=feltdizz;525574]I'm not talking about what Eli has between his ears... he is a Manning. I'm talking about the expressions and the reactions by the fans in his second year. Gruden was on Mike and Mike and made a great point... a lot of young QB's struggle with Thursday Night games because the turn around is so short. Putting up a stinker this early in his career isn't a gotcha moment IMO and he is on a sub par team. Having a few bad games doesn't mean he won't have a great future. Will he win a SB? Probably not... but I doubt Rivers, Ryan, Luck and a few others will win one as well.
Eli has put together a few runs in the playoffs but he puts up a few stinkers every year. The only difference is he has a dominant DL who keeps him in games. The only reason I keep using Eli is because they just played each other and Panther fans are slobbering over Eli like he has always been a great QB. I've been an Eli fan since he was at Ole Miss but fans forget how bad he was bashed early on. Cam bashing is popular because he has a bunch of commercials but what did people really expect from a Panther team this year?[/QUOTE]
[COLOR=#CCCCCC]Regardless of the team around them. you can tell RGIII and Andrew Luck are far superior QB's than Cam Newton. It's pretty obvious to me. Andrew Luck's team is not that good at all but you tell that kid is far better and will have a more successful career as an NFL QB. Same with RGIII.[/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=williar;525578]Ain't nothing wrong with Cam Newton! So, he had a bad game. Ben has them all the time! Ben can't seem to win a game with no defense or running game and he's been in the league for 9 years and called by some, an elite QB. SO! Why do you expect Cam to be able to accomplish this in his second year?[/QUOTE]
Hilarious!! And here he is. The one who last year said he would take Cam Newton over Ben. You can have him. Good luck with that.
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At least Cam has proven he can outscore another QB every now and then!
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[QUOTE=Dee Dub;525582]Hilarious!! And here he is. The one who last year said he would take Cam Newton over Ben. You can have him. Good luck with that.[/QUOTE]
Thanks sir! And good luck on how many games Ben will win with now defense to hold teams to 13 points. Unfortunately, we don't play raiders defense every week!
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[QUOTE=williar;525583]At least Cam has proven he can outscore another QB every now and then![/QUOTE]
[URL]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore;_ylt=Aj1t2KTqxFptLpxG5rrm5CUisLYF?gid=20091220023[/URL]
Steelers 37 - Packers 36
Ben: 29 of 46 (63%), 503 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs, 121.9 passer rating
Aaron Rodgers: 26 of 48 (54.2%), 383 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs, 101.3 passer rating
On a night where arguably the best QB in the NFL was incredibly good, Ben was better.
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[QUOTE=ikestops85;525541]I play. Can I be one of the "cool people"? :lol:[/QUOTE]
I guess you are, but be careful: You playing FF "explains everything."
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[QUOTE=D Rock;525586][URL]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore;_ylt=Aj1t2KTqxFptLpxG5rrm5CUisLYF?gid=20091220023[/URL]
Steelers 37 - Packers 36
Ben: 29 of 46 (63%), 503 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs, 121.9 passer rating
Aaron Rodgers: 26 of 48 (54.2%), 383 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs, 101.3 passer rating
On a night where arguably the best QB in the NFL was incredibly good, Ben was better.[/QUOTE]
That was 15 years ago! But thanks anyways!
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[QUOTE=williar;525589]That was 15 years ago! But thanks anyways![/QUOTE]
Or less than 3 years. I guess it depends what type of calendar you typically use.
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[QUOTE=ikestops85;525541]I play. Can I be one of the "cool people"? :lol:[/QUOTE]
I prefer playing "Total Fantasy Football"...
[IMG]http://www.thewivesoffantasyfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/draft-cheepleaders.gif[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=D Rock;525590]Or less than 3 years. I guess it depends what type of calendar you typically use.[/QUOTE]
Point being, It's been too damn long! Ya think!
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[QUOTE=williar;525593]Point being, It's been too damn long! Ya think![/QUOTE]
No, I don't think it has.
That game was in 2009. There have only been 2 seasons between then and now.
2010: 12-4 in the regular season, made it to the Super Bowl.
2011: 12-4 again? Oh, ok. Beat Tom Brady 25-17? Yeah, I'll take that as filling your requirements of proving he can outscore another QB here and there.