Re: Bradshaw Admits to Steroid Use.
[quote=Mr Smartmonies]Just another reason Roethlisberger is best QB in steeler history.
1) Ben doesn't take Steriods
2) Ben would have never been benched in favor of Joe gilliam
That being Said, Bradshaw is still my 3rd favorite Steeler of all time.
My short list
1) Roethlisberger (He's like a one man Gang)
2) Lambert (Heart and Soul)
3) Bradshaw (Was treated unfairly by fans)
4) Swann (added Flair to championship team)
5) Mean Joe Green (Probably the 2nd best player ever for the Steelers)
6) Mel blount (they had to change the rules because of him)
7) Rod Woodson (soo fast)
8 ) Stallworth (dependable, with deep play capability)
9) Bettis (for years he faced 9 man fronts without passing attack, and still got job done)
10) Plaxico Burress (we didn't have a real legit passing game until he arrived)[/quote]
and if all those guys used roids... if you're dropping TB for it, wouldn't that mean Lambert, Swann, MJG, etc shoudl be dropped?
Re: Bradshaw Admits to Steroid Use.
[quote=RuthlessBurgher][quote=Mr Smartmonies]Just another reason Roethlisberger is best QB in steeler history.
1) Ben doesn't take Steriods
2) Ben would have never been benched in favor of Joe gilliam
That being Said, Bradshaw is still my 3rd favorite Steeler of all time.
My short list
1) Roethlisberger (He's like a one man Gang)
2) Lambert (Heart and Soul)
3) Bradshaw (Was treated unfairly by fans)
4) Swann (added Flair to championship team)
5) Mean Joe Green (Probably the 2nd best player ever for the Steelers)
6) Mel blount (they had to change the rules because of him)
7) Rod Woodson (soo fast)
8 ) Stallworth (dependable, with deep play capability)
9) Bettis (for years he faced 9 man fronts without passing attack, and still got job done)
10) Plaxico Burress (we didn't have a real legit passing game until he arrived)[/quote]
Plax and no Hines? Seriously? I think you are the only Steeler fan who feels this way. [i]Ever.[/i]
By the way:
Plaxico Burress' 2 best years in Pittsburgh? 78-1325-7 & 66-1008-6
Yancey Thigpen's 2 best years in Pittsburgh? 79-1398-7 & 85-1307-5[/quote]
I liked Thigpen. but Burress did more things like open up the entire field for guys liek Ward to catch 100 passes. Those things don't show up in the Stats however.
Re: Bradshaw Admits to Steroid Use.
[quote=SteelerOfDeVille][quote=Mr Smartmonies]Just another reason Roethlisberger is best QB in steeler history.
1) Ben doesn't take Steriods
2) Ben would have never been benched in favor of Joe gilliam
That being Said, Bradshaw is still my 3rd favorite Steeler of all time.
My short list
1) Roethlisberger (He's like a one man Gang)
2) Lambert (Heart and Soul)
3) Bradshaw (Was treated unfairly by fans)
4) Swann (added Flair to championship team)
5) Mean Joe Green (Probably the 2nd best player ever for the Steelers)
6) Mel blount (they had to change the rules because of him)
7) Rod Woodson (soo fast)
8 ) Stallworth (dependable, with deep play capability)
9) Bettis (for years he faced 9 man fronts without passing attack, and still got job done)
10) Plaxico Burress (we didn't have a real legit passing game until he arrived)[/quote]
and if all those guys used roids... if you're dropping TB for it, wouldn't that mean Lambert, Swann, MJG, etc shoudl be dropped?[/quote]
I never dropped Bradshaw. He was #3 all along.
Re: Bradshaw Admits to Steroid Use.
[quote=Mr Smartmonies][quote=SteelerOfDeVille][quote="Mr Smartmonies":2kyxbwvz][b][size=7]Just another reason Roethlisberger is best QB in steeler history.
1) Ben doesn't take Steriods[/size] [/b]
2) Ben would have never been benched in favor of Joe gilliam
That being Said, Bradshaw is still my 3rd favorite Steeler of all time.
My short list
1) Roethlisberger (He's like a one man Gang)
2) Lambert (Heart and Soul)
3) Bradshaw (Was treated unfairly by fans)
4) Swann (added Flair to championship team)
5) Mean Joe Green (Probably the 2nd best player ever for the Steelers)
6) Mel blount (they had to change the rules because of him)
7) Rod Woodson (soo fast)
8 ) Stallworth (dependable, with deep play capability)
9) Bettis (for years he faced 9 man fronts without passing attack, and still got job done)
10) Plaxico Burress (we didn't have a real legit passing game until he arrived)[/quote]
and if all those guys used roids... if you're dropping TB for it, wouldn't that mean Lambert, Swann, MJG, etc shoudl be dropped?[/quote]
I never dropped Bradshaw. He was #3 all along.[/quote:2kyxbwvz]
maybe im misunderstanding what you're saying here...
Re: Bradshaw Admits to Steroid Use.
[quote=SteelerOfDeVille][quote=Mr Smartmonies][quote=SteelerOfDeVille][quote="Mr Smartmonies":322swsxs][b][size=7]Just another reason Roethlisberger is best QB in steeler history.
1) Ben doesn't take Steriods[/size] [/b]
2) Ben would have never been benched in favor of Joe gilliam
That being Said, Bradshaw is still my 3rd favorite Steeler of all time.
My short list
1) Roethlisberger (He's like a one man Gang)
2) Lambert (Heart and Soul)
3) Bradshaw (Was treated unfairly by fans)
4) Swann (added Flair to championship team)
5) Mean Joe Green (Probably the 2nd best player ever for the Steelers)
6) Mel blount (they had to change the rules because of him)
7) Rod Woodson (soo fast)
8 ) Stallworth (dependable, with deep play capability)
9) Bettis (for years he faced 9 man fronts without passing attack, and still got job done)
10) Plaxico Burress (we didn't have a real legit passing game until he arrived)[/quote]
and if all those guys used roids... if you're dropping TB for it, wouldn't that mean Lambert, Swann, MJG, etc shoudl be dropped?[/quote]
I never dropped Bradshaw. He was #3 all along.[/quote]
maybe im misunderstanding what you're saying here...[/quote:322swsxs]
I just listed my Top 10 favorite Steelers of all time. That's all.
Re: Bradshaw Admits to Steroid Use.
Hate to say it, but TB should know that there is absolutely nothing good that can come of him admitting this regardless of whether or not they were prescribed. Here comes all the BS from all the fans of other teams now. :HeadBanger :roll:
Re: Bradshaw Admits to Steroid Use.
[quote=Mr Smartmonies][quote=SteelerOfDeVille][quote="Mr Smartmonies":zcwyi89x][quote=SteelerOfDeVille][quote="Mr Smartmonies":zcwyi89x][b][size=7]Just another reason Roethlisberger is best QB in steeler history.
1) Ben doesn't take Steriods[/size] [/b]
2) Ben would have never been benched in favor of Joe gilliam
That being Said, Bradshaw is still my 3rd favorite Steeler of all time.
My short list
1) Roethlisberger (He's like a one man Gang)
2) Lambert (Heart and Soul)
3) Bradshaw (Was treated unfairly by fans)
4) Swann (added Flair to championship team)
5) Mean Joe Green (Probably the 2nd best player ever for the Steelers)
6) Mel blount (they had to change the rules because of him)
7) Rod Woodson (soo fast)
8 ) Stallworth (dependable, with deep play capability)
9) Bettis (for years he faced 9 man fronts without passing attack, and still got job done)
10) Plaxico Burress (we didn't have a real legit passing game until he arrived)[/quote]
and if all those guys used roids... if you're dropping TB for it, wouldn't that mean Lambert, Swann, MJG, etc shoudl be dropped?[/quote]
I never dropped Bradshaw. He was #3 all along.[/quote]
maybe im misunderstanding what you're saying here...[/quote:zcwyi89x]
I just listed my Top 10 favorite Steelers of all time. That's all.[/quote:zcwyi89x]
With a footnote... for example, if I said
"Willie Parker's my favorite Steeler RB of all time cuz he never player for the Rams and he's not fat... "
Doesn't that imply that where it not for the fact that Bettis was a fat, former Ram that he might be higher?
(not saying it's what you meant... jsut sharing how it's perceived)
Re: Bradshaw Admits to Steroid Use.
MSM i respect your opinion but i think it's crazy that you think ben is a better qb then terry.
when ben wins 4 sb's in 6 years maybe then we can have this discussion.
btw giliam wasn't a bad qb. he's a hell of a lot better than batch ever will be.
but you're right about terry being treated unfairly by the fans. to me it's a travesty that fans treated him the way they did.
oh and btw, when ben calls ALL of his plays like terry did and wins the way terry did, i'll be much more impressed.
and btw, ben is my #3 as of right now.
1- MJG and Andy Russle
2- lambert
3-ben
4- swann
5- blount
6- rod
7- webby
8- dirt
9- terry
10- lloyd
Honorable mention is troy- if he keeps up with what he's doing now...
Re: Bradshaw Admits to Steroid Use.
[quote=birtikidis]MSM i respect your opinion but i think it's crazy that you think ben is a better qb then terry.
when ben wins 4 sb's in 6 years maybe then we can have this discussion.
btw giliam wasn't a bad qb. he's a hell of a lot better than batch ever will be.
but you're right about terry being treated unfairly by the fans. to me it's a travesty that fans treated him the way they did.
oh and btw, when ben calls ALL of his plays like terry did and wins the way terry did, i'll be much more impressed.
and btw, ben is my #3 as of right now.
1- MJG and Andy Russle
2- lambert
3-ben
4- swann
5- blount
6- rod
7- webby
8- dirt
9- terry
10- lloyd
Honorable mention is troy- if he keeps up with what he's doing now...[/quote]
HOw is Ben #3 and Terry's #9, but, youre criticizing MSM?
Personally, I think you both have Ben rated too high.... if his career finishes like it has started, THEN, he'll be deserving of a top 5 spot. 4 seasons into his career, it's sorta hard to decare him that high, IMO. (Much like you've said about Troy who has been in the league a year longer...)
Re: Bradshaw Admits to Steroid Use.
i'm not saying that ben is a better qb in my list. that's just the order of players that i like. in no way do i think that ben is a better qb then terry. i'm just more exposed to ben since i wasn't born until 1979.