While Franco probably thinks they're too much, I think PSU got off easy.
The one thing I did like is they decided to let any current scholarship players keep their scholarships even if they decide not to play football for PSU.
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While Franco probably thinks they're too much, I think PSU got off easy.
The one thing I did like is they decided to let any current scholarship players keep their scholarships even if they decide not to play football for PSU.
They are way too much. What positive is accomplished? Nothing. It is a typical feel good gesture where a bunch of bureaucrats pat themseleves on the backs and say how good and righteous they were.
This was an act of individuals who should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. An institution is not a living, thinking being. The institution did not choose to do anything, individuals working in jobs aligned with that institution did.
Are currents and future students benefiting from this decision...NO
Are the victims benefitting...NO
How many fewer scholarships and aid will be available to students because Penn State is giving up $60M? Anyone benefit from that...NO
How many student athletes don't get a scholarship now because PSU has to forfeit them? Does that benefit student athletes...NO
How many students in non-revenue producing sports suffer because the football program is not bringing in money? Does that benefit anyone...NO
Are current football players who have worked their whole lives for a chance to play in the NFL benefitting...NO
Are the numerous small businesses in Central PA who make a large amount of their annual revenue during football weekends benefitting...NO
It was a poorly thought out, short sighted gesture to make people "feel good." Feel good gestures rarely have any real positives. The NCAA is a bunch of self-righteous buffoons.
I think that PSU was made an example of for society in general. Any company, institution, or individual that is aware of child abuse taking place will now think twice about ignoring it or sweeping it under the rug.
[QUOTE=Oviedo;516479]They are way too much. What positive is accomplished? Nothing. It is a typical feel good gesture where a bunch of bureaucrats pat themseleves on the backs and say how good and righteous they were.
This was an act of individuals who should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. An institution is not a living, thinking being. The institution did not choose to do anything, individuals working in jobs aligned with that institution did.
Are currents and future students benefiting from this decision...NO
Are the victims benefitting...NO
How many fewer scholarships and aid will be available to students because Penn State is giving up $60M? Anyone benefit from that...NO
How many student athletes don't get a scholarship now because PSU has to forfeit them? Does that benefit student athletes...NO
How many students in non-revenue producing sports suffer because the football program is not bringing in money? Does that benefit anyone...NO
Are current football players who have worked their whole lives for a chance to play in the NFL benefitting...NO
Are the numerous small businesses in Central PA who make a large amount of their annual revenue during football weekends benefitting...NO
It was a poorly thought out, short sighted gesture to make people "feel good." Feel good gestures rarely have any real positives. The NCAA is a bunch of self-righteous buffoons.[/QUOTE]
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What happened at PSU was a legal issue and individuals involved in cover-up should be punished to the maximum by the court.
Why is this subject in the Steelers talk forum???
[QUOTE=Oviedo;516479]They are way too much. What positive is accomplished? Nothing. It is a typical feel good gesture where a bunch of bureaucrats pat themseleves on the backs and say how good and righteous they were.
This was an act of individuals who should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. An institution is not a living, thinking being. The institution did not choose to do anything, individuals working in jobs aligned with that institution did.
Are currents and future students benefiting from this decision...NO
Are the victims benefitting...NO
How many fewer scholarships and aid will be available to students because Penn State is giving up $60M? Anyone benefit from that...NO
How many student athletes don't get a scholarship now because PSU has to forfeit them? Does that benefit student athletes...NO
How many students in non-revenue producing sports suffer because the football program is not bringing in money? Does that benefit anyone...NO
Are current football players who have worked their whole lives for a chance to play in the NFL benefitting...NO
Are the numerous small businesses in Central PA who make a large amount of their annual revenue during football weekends benefitting...NO
It was a poorly thought out, short sighted gesture to make people "feel good." Feel good gestures rarely have any real positives. The NCAA is a bunch of self-righteous buffoons.[/QUOTE]
I view it as JoePa, Sandusky, and the administration's fault.
1 guy cost Siemens, Enron, JPMorgan, etc Billions, it seems to me that PSU got off light. To this day there are still PSU homers that are sticking up for the school and JoePa.
I look at the money as blood money. Should anyone want a scholarship paid at the expense of some innocent child?
What's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. People always suffer the consequences of the sins of others.
Plus the money's going to support abused kids. And PSU signed off on it and agreed to it. So given that they signed off, I suspect it's too light a punishment and they only signed off because they know they deserve far worse.
[QUOTE=flippy;516489]I view it as JoePa, Sandusky, and the administration's fault.
1 guy cost Siemens, Enron, JPMorgan, etc Billions, it seems to me that PSU got off light. To this day there are still PSU homers that are sticking up for the school and JoePa.
I look at the money as blood money. Should anyone want a scholarship paid at the expense of some innocent child?
What's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. People always suffer the consequences of the sins of others.
Plus the money's going to support abused kids. And PSU signed off on it and agreed to it. So given that they signed off, I suspect it's too light a punishment and they only signed off because they know they deserve far worse.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Should anyone want a scholarship paid at the expense of some innocent child?
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Really? What innocent child is paying? The person who committed the crime has been convicted. Others are DEAD or awaiting trial so how exactly is an innocent child paying?
[QUOTE=Oviedo;516492]Really? What innocent child is paying? The person who committed the crime has been convicted. Others are DEAD or awaiting trial so how exactly is an innocent child paying?[/QUOTE]
PSU Football is the 2nd most profitable program in the country. It pays for loads of programs at PSU. It's the reason PSU gets $200M/yr from alumni.
And the program was used by a pedophile to lure young innocent children. And this program was deemed to be so important, it protected the pedophile for the good of the program.
JoePa and the school administration decided that the program was worth more than the innocence of these kids. That was a trade that JoePa and the college president made. Keeping this covered up for 14 years paid for a lot of programs at PSU and a lot of scholarships.
Anyone that went to PSU over the last 14 years may have gotten a scholarship that may not have been available if Sandusky was exposed 14 years ago. Maybe there would have been sanctions 14 years ago. Maybe there would have been scholarships cancelled. But they weren't.
JoePa enabled students to get their college education paid for because he didn't do the right thing.
I'm glad I didnt go to PSU in the last 14 years and get a scholarship. Actually I applied to PSU but got turned down. I wasn't smart enough. Thank goodness.
The way the current PSU president supported these sanctions makes me think that they accepted to avoid something worse that may be coming. It's like this $60M is to sweep this whole thing under the rug.
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I'm glad I didnt go to PSU in the last 14 years and get a scholarship. Actually I applied to PSU but got turned down. I wasn't smart enough. Thank goodness.
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Is that where all of this overblown hate is coming from?
I went to PSU, and graduated from there 3 years ago. I had some scholarship money. I also hated the culture that propped up the football program on such a pedestal and in which the students felt entitled to whatever they wanted. Does that mean I should feel bad about what school I went to or the fact that I got some money while there? Heck no.
I didn't get money funded at the expense of children losing their innocence. For you to attempt to put that on people who went there is just crazy and leaves you sounding like a tin foil wearing conspiracy theorist.
[QUOTE=D Rock;516495]Is that where all of this overblown hate is coming from?
I went to PSU, and graduated from there 3 years ago. I had some scholarship money. I also hated the culture that propped up the football program on such a pedestal and in which the students felt entitled to whatever they wanted. Does that mean I should feel bad about what school I went to or the fact that I got some money while there? Heck no.
I didn't get money funded at the expense of children losing their innocence. For you to attempt to put that on people who went there is just crazy and leaves you sounding like a tin foil wearing conspiracy theorist.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you.
However, someone (figuratively) has to pay. Joe Pa continued to allow Sandusky free run of the Penn State football facilities after he knew about things happening that turned out to be horrific. The administration was complicit. While I don't feel that Penn State students were responsible in any way, and while the vast majority of the faculty and staff had no idea what was happening, the football program was made an example. I can definitely understand that.
Why was my post removed?
[QUOTE=flippy;516494]PSU Football is the 2nd most profitable program in the country. It pays for loads of programs at PSU. It's the reason PSU gets $200M/yr from alumni.
And the program was used by a pedophile to lure young innocent children. And this program was deemed to be so important, it protected the pedophile for the good of the program.
JoePa and the school administration decided that the program was worth more than the innocence of these kids. That was a trade that JoePa and the college president made. Keeping this covered up for 14 years paid for a lot of programs at PSU and a lot of scholarships.
Anyone that went to PSU over the last 14 years may have gotten a scholarship that may not have been available if Sandusky was exposed 14 years ago. Maybe there would have been sanctions 14 years ago. Maybe there would have been scholarships cancelled. But they weren't.
JoePa enabled students to get their college education paid for because he didn't do the right thing.
I'm glad I didnt go to PSU in the last 14 years and get a scholarship. Actually I applied to PSU but got turned down. I wasn't smart enough. Thank goodness.
The way the current PSU president supported these sanctions makes me think that they accepted to avoid something worse that may be coming. It's like this $60M is to sweep this whole thing under the rug.[/QUOTE]
So all those students who benefited from the money PSU football brought in are now being punished. Yeah...that is really accomplishing alot!!!! Once again they are punsihing those who are just as innocent in this thing as the victims. Small business owners could lose their livlihood all for a gesture gone wrong.
[QUOTE=D Rock;516495]Is that where all of this overblown hate is coming from?
I went to PSU, and graduated from there 3 years ago. I had some scholarship money. I also hated the culture that propped up the football program on such a pedestal and in which the students felt entitled to whatever they wanted. Does that mean I should feel bad about what school I went to or the fact that I got some money while there? Heck no.
I didn't get money funded at the expense of children losing their innocence. For you to attempt to put that on people who went there is just crazy and leaves you sounding like a tin foil wearing conspiracy theorist.[/QUOTE]
You got me. I do wear the tinfoil on occasion. :)
I don't really hate anyone. And you shouldn't feel bad. You didn't do anything. This is just all messed up. And while it probably wouldn't have impacted you specifically, I bet someone wouldn't have gotten a scholarship if JoePa told the truth from day 1.
I just think this whole thing is pretty whack. I hate every kind of pain and suffering. And a pet peeve of mine is anyone that doesn't stand up for those that cannot stand up for themselves.
I hate that one bad apple can spoil the bunch. That doesn't seem fair either. But it's more fair in my mind than any type of pain and suffering.
I was irritated 20 years ago when PSU didn't think I was smart enough to go there. Their loss, right :) No resentment though. It's all good. Just think the facade JoePa created is insane.
[QUOTE=Slapstick;516497]I agree with you.
However, someone (figuratively) has to pay. Joe Pa continued to allow Sandusky free run of the Penn State football facilities after he knew about things happening that turned out to be horrific. The administration was complicit. While I don't feel that Penn State students were responsible in any way, and while the vast majority of the faculty and staff had no idea what was happening, the football program was made an example. I can definitely understand that.[/QUOTE]
The courts are punsihinh those who should be punished. The NCAA were cowards because they punished Penn State to avoid their own scrutiny in the media. They didn't want to answer tough questions so they threw Penn Sate and all those who had nothing to do with the tragic events under the bus. They are self righteous hypocrites because they had no problem taking the money that Penn State football generated under Paterno.
[QUOTE=flippy;516505]You got me. I do wear the tinfoil on occasion. :)
I don't really hate anyone. And you shouldn't feel bad. You didn't do anything. This is just all messed up. And while it probably wouldn't have impacted you specifically, I bet someone wouldn't have gotten a scholarship if JoePa told the truth from day 1.
I just think this whole thing is pretty whack. I hate every kind of pain and suffering. And a pet peeve of mine is anyone that doesn't stand up for those that cannot stand up for themselves.
I hate that one bad apple can spoil the bunch. That doesn't seem fair either. But it's more fair in my mind than any type of pain and suffering.
I was irritated 20 years ago when PSU didn't think I was smart enough to go there. Their loss, right :) No resentment though. It's all good. Just think the facade JoePa created is insane.[/QUOTE]
Putting pain and suffering on those who had nothing to do with this going forward does not alleviate past pain and suffering. It is just feel good nonsense.
The irony in this whole debate about what "should" happen to Penn State is that many of the people who claim that Penn State fans care more about the football program than they do about Jerry Sandusky's victims seem to care more about the punishment than they do about the victims, and often blur the line between justice and revenge to boot. When people say that they're "praying for the death penalty," then they're squandering whatever moral authority they have. Why not pray for the victims instead? Or are Penn State fans the only ones who have to do that?
[QUOTE=DBR96A;516512]The irony in this whole debate about what "should" happen to Penn State is that many of the people who claim that Penn State fans care more about the football program than they do about Jerry Sandusky's victims seem to care more about the punishment than they do about the victims, and often blur the line between justice and revenge to boot. When people say that they're "praying for the death penalty," then they're squandering whatever moral authority they have. Why not pray for the victims instead? Or are Penn State fans the only ones who have to do that?[/QUOTE]
Good catch.
I don't know what the proper course of action is on this situation. You have individuals that were culpable and one has been prosecuted and sentenced, a couple are waiting their day in court and another is deceased. It seems the people responsible for the entire fiasco are going to be punished within the framework of the legal system. At this point what do the sanctions and fines levied against Penn State accomplish? I know it feels like something should be done due to the heinous nature of the crimes, but the criminals are being tried and my guess is that they will all be punished. I don't see Spanier and Schultz not serving time right along with good ol Jerry.
So, the fines and sanctions will now penalize PSU students, recruits, businesses that had absolutely nothing to do with the crimes of 14 years ago. The current students were somewhere between 4 and 8 years old while this was occurring. There are going to be civil lawsuits from each and every victim of Sandusky and I'm certain the remuneration handed out will approach 1 billion dollars before its all said and done.
I'm a Pitt graduate and there's no love lost with the PSU football program, but I'm not certain that this is accomplishing anything positive. The players who have signed on to play at PSU are being given the option to seek scholarships elsewhere, but what if other colleges don't see their skill set as one that fits into their program? This year's seniors, what are they going to do? Does the scholarship loss affect the Title IX scholarships that are awarded? It seems there is more down side to this and I have yet to rationalize an upside.
The perpetrator is being punished and his enablers will be tried and dealt with legally and one of them is dead. The victims will be compensated which is the best that anyone can do for them now. It would be nice to go back in time and stop Sandusky before he committed the heinous acts, but we can't, so the best society can do is compensate the families and that will be done. Punishing the current students, former students, local businesses, the University itself seems fruitless in my humble opinion.
The PSU football program may never be relevant again and I'm not sure if that's good or bad. SMU has never been a relevant football program since they received the death penalty in 1987 (I think). Their transgressions were NCAA football related, they were not criminal and they deserved what they received. In this case, it's deviant behavior and the cover-up of the behavior which isn't really football related at all. It could have just as easily been a professor of the engineering department and the director of the department and the president of the university covering it up because, the professor was one of the best mechanical engineers in the country.
I guess, something had to be done, but I'm not sure this is the answer. Couldn't the University been made to start some type of foundation to raise awareness of child molestation and fund the foundation nationally, not just in Centre county Pennsylvania? Wouldn't that be more beneficial to more people?
Who benefits from this decision?
Anyone at all?
Students? No
Athletes? No
Business? No
Parents? No
The victims? No
Current administration? No
NCAA? No
I just don't see anything positive out of this decision.
Pappy
the whole "innocent kids are paying for this" is nonsense... when a football program gets punished it's usually the incoming players who had nothing to do with the infractions who are punished....
The program hid this and let innocent kids get raped so they could increase the stadium size and school population.
PSU "hiding" Sanduysky's actions....
PSU alum shouldn't feel shamed for scholarships they earned but how many of these scholarships would have been wiped out or non-existent if PSU put it out there 10 years ago? Would you still go to PSU if it was put out there 10 years ago? Just asking?
[QUOTE=Lebsteel;516486]Why is this subject in the Steelers talk forum???[/QUOTE]
I'm also trying to figure that one out. :confused:
[QUOTE=papillon;516517]I don't know what the proper course of action is on this situation. You have individuals that were culpable and one has been prosecuted and sentenced, a couple are waiting their day in court and another is deceased. It seems the people responsible for the entire fiasco are going to be punished within the framework of the legal system. At this point what do the sanctions and fines levied against Penn State accomplish? I know it feels like something should be done due to the heinous nature of the crimes, but the criminals are being tried and my guess is that they will all be punished. I don't see Spanier and Schultz not serving time right along with good ol Jerry.
So, the fines and sanctions will now penalize PSU students, recruits, businesses that had absolutely nothing to do with the crimes of 14 years ago. The current students were somewhere between 4 and 8 years old while this was occurring. There are going to be civil lawsuits from each and every victim of Sandusky and I'm certain the remuneration handed out will approach 1 billion dollars before its all said and done.
I'm a Pitt graduate and there's no love lost with the PSU football program, but I'm not certain that this is accomplishing anything positive. The players who have signed on to play at PSU are being given the option to seek scholarships elsewhere, but what if other colleges don't see their skill set as one that fits into their program? This year's seniors, what are they going to do? Does the scholarship loss affect the Title IX scholarships that are awarded? It seems there is more down side to this and I have yet to rationalize an upside.
The perpetrator is being punished and his enablers will be tried and dealt with legally and one of them is dead. The victims will be compensated which is the best that anyone can do for them now. It would be nice to go back in time and stop Sandusky before he committed the heinous acts, but we can't, so the best society can do is compensate the families and that will be done. Punishing the current students, former students, local businesses, the University itself seems fruitless in my humble opinion.
The PSU football program may never be relevant again and I'm not sure if that's good or bad. SMU has never been a relevant football program since they received the death penalty in 1987 (I think). Their transgressions were NCAA football related, they were not criminal and they deserved what they received. In this case, it's deviant behavior and the cover-up of the behavior which isn't really football related at all. It could have just as easily been a professor of the engineering department and the director of the department and the president of the university covering it up because, the professor was one of the best mechanical engineers in the country.
I guess, something had to be done, but I'm not sure this is the answer. Couldn't the University been made to start some type of foundation to raise awareness of child molestation and fund the foundation nationally, not just in Centre county Pennsylvania? Wouldn't that be more beneficial to more people?
Who benefits from this decision?
Anyone at all?
Students? No
Athletes? No
Business? No
Parents? No
The victims? No
Current administration? No
NCAA? No
I just don't see anything positive out of this decision.
Pappy[/QUOTE]
Exactly in line with what I have been saying. THis was the NCAA avoiding the media and destroying a lot of good at Penn Sate so they would "appear" to be doing the right thing. Nothing they did was right!
[QUOTE=Sugar;516520]I'm also trying to figure that one out. :confused:[/QUOTE]
because we have never won a Super Bowl without a Penn State player on the roster and that may never happen again. Hope that helps.
[QUOTE=Oviedo;516523]because we have never won a Super Bowl without a Penn State player on the roster and that may never happen again. Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]
Not really. PSU is an amateur team. The Steelers are an NFL team.
I think they shouldn't have cut any scholarships or cut bowl games. What I think they should have done is take EVERY PENNY PSU earns via football from the school and put it towards ending this crap. Let them play a bowl game. But let that money go to a good cause. Let them be competitive to keep revenue rolling in. But redirect that revenue towards a good cause. No reason to punish athletes that weren't there when this stuff happened. No reason to punish the student body. No reason to punish the current coaching staff (even if he did coach for the *'s). Let PSU generate millions of dollars for a good cause over the next 5 years.
[QUOTE=Oviedo;516479]They are way too much. What positive is accomplished? Nothing. It is a typical feel good gesture where a bunch of bureaucrats pat themseleves on the backs and say how good and righteous they were.
This was an act of individuals who should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. An institution is not a living, thinking being. The institution did not choose to do anything, individuals working in jobs aligned with that institution did.
Are currents and future students benefiting from this decision...NO
Are the victims benefitting...NO
How many fewer scholarships and aid will be available to students because Penn State is giving up $60M? Anyone benefit from that...NO
How many student athletes don't get a scholarship now because PSU has to forfeit them? Does that benefit student athletes...NO
How many students in non-revenue producing sports suffer because the football program is not bringing in money? Does that benefit anyone...NO
Are current football players who have worked their whole lives for a chance to play in the NFL benefitting...NO
Are the numerous small businesses in Central PA who make a large amount of their annual revenue during football weekends benefitting...NO
It was a poorly thought out, short sighted gesture to make people "feel good." Feel good gestures rarely have any real positives. The NCAA is a bunch of self-righteous buffoons.[/QUOTE]
WOW! You and I agree on something here. All the times we disagree on stuff, on this particular subject, we're on the same page...We might be in the minority, but I think/ know we're right on this..
[QUOTE=feltdizz;516518]the whole "innocent kids are paying for this" is nonsense... when a football program gets punished it's usually the incoming players who had nothing to do with the infractions who are punished....
The program hid this and let innocent kids get raped so they could increase the stadium size and school population.
PSU "hiding" Sanduysky's actions....
PSU alum shouldn't feel shamed for scholarships they earned but how many of these scholarships would have been wiped out or non-existent if PSU put it out there 10 years ago? Would you still go to PSU if it was put out there 10 years ago? Just asking?[/QUOTE]
Would I go to PSU again if I had to make the choice right now? Probably not. But I thought that before this all came out too. PSU is more expensive than it was worth to me.
The hardcore PSU people from PSU families will not falter...they will rally behind this and try to show that the school is about more than football. Good for them, I hope they can sway the public's perception in the future.
The fringe people who would go because PSU is a football school and should be fun....I think there's a real strong chance they go somewhere else.
[QUOTE=D Rock;516536]Would I go to PSU again if I had to make the choice right now? Probably not. But I thought that before this all came out too. PSU is more expensive than it was worth to me.
The hardcore PSU people from PSU families will not falter...they will rally behind this and try to show that the school is about more than football. Good for them, I hope they can sway the public's perception in the future.
The fringe people who would go because PSU is a football school and should be fun....I think there's a real strong chance they go somewhere else.[/QUOTE]
If those who go to college simply to party choose someplace else, then that might indirectly help bolster Penn State's academic reputation.
[QUOTE=Oviedo;516507]The courts are punsihinh those who should be punished. The NCAA were cowards because they punished Penn State to avoid their own scrutiny in the media. They didn't want to answer tough questions so they threw Penn Sate and all those who had nothing to do with the tragic events under the bus. They are self righteous hypocrites because they had no problem taking the money that Penn State football generated under Paterno.[/QUOTE]
What the NCAA is saying is that the entire culture of the PSU football program, under Joe Pa, enabled these atrocities to repeatedly happen...McQueery spoke to Joe Pa, but not the police...
Is he really the only guy who saw Sandusky showering with a kid? No. I've read reports stating that other coaches saw him as well....
It was swept under the rug and enabled by the University Administration and the football program...
[QUOTE=Oviedo;516523]because we have never won a Super Bowl without a Penn State player on the roster and that may never happen again. Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]
This and there's no one creating many Steelers threads during the offseason.
If there were a bunch of interesting Steelers threads, no one would have bothered clicking or responding. It seems like it would have naturally disappeared to page 2.
It seemed football related. We've had our share of PSU players on the roster. It was a little off topic. There really hasn't been much in the way of Steelers news other than DD signing.
[QUOTE=Slapstick;516542]What the NCAA is saying is that the entire culture of the PSU football program, under Joe Pa, enabled these atrocities to repeatedly happen...McQueery spoke to Joe Pa, but not the police...
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Conspiracy theory - The last PSU win not to be erased? McQueery was the QB. Coincidence?
My point was (before it was removed??) that the records and accomplishments of the past PSU players should not suffer for this. It's clear the NCAA is playing the Goodell role here and acting in a way that the media wants them to, but there is no benefit in taking the past records away. It is also clear that the NCAA wants PSU to have no football program anymore. That program is done.
[QUOTE=Djfan;516550]My point was (before it was removed??) that the records and accomplishments of the past PSU players should not suffer for this. It's clear the NCAA is playing the Goodell role here and acting in a way that the media wants them to, but there is no benefit in taking the past records away. It is also clear that the NCAA wants PSU to have no football program anymore. That program is done.[/QUOTE]
Well, I don't think the NCAA wanted Joe Paterno, given what we've learned, wanted him as their winningest all-time coach. I can't blame them for that at all.
Listen, both sides here make GREAT points. I always weighed on the side that NCAA shouldn't do anything. But after seeing the penalties, I thought they actually made some sense.
At the same time... when ESPN was showing the reaction of people watching the fall-out (as read to the public), I first thought "What a bunch of lemmings..." the way they were reacting. But then I realized--probably many of those were student-athletes there, and they were realizing that this would hurt them personally (since the football program helped fund so much). And someone made the extremely relevant point, of all the business owners this might affect.
But you also realize the nature of this scandal, and the [I]institutional [/I]aspect to it all. Why did they not only bring Sandusky to justice, but actively try to cover-up the situation? Because of the problems it would've brought to PSU. It wasn't because everyone wanted to shield Sandusky.
In the end, there is no right side of it. It is a situation that is being dealt with, and hopefully the school/community can move on soon.
The more I think about this and the fact that the new PSU president was so quick to agree to this, the more I think they know something worse is coming. And they're probably trying to position that they've already received a harsh punishment.
I suspect once the lawsuits start piling up, this will look like nothing in comparison. And they'll try to use these NCAA sanctions in their defense.
It may also be a CYA move for the NCAA so the NCAA can avoid liability in the personal lawsuits?
I'm sure there's some legal angle to all of this that none of us understand.
[QUOTE]In the end, there is no right side of it. It is a situation that is being dealt with, and hopefully the school/community can move on soon.[/QUOTE]
This is the best comment on the whole issue that I have heard yet. If this had been handled 14 years ago, we would be 14 years down the path to "Moving on."