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WindyCitySteel
03-29-2022, 08:45 PM
"Play better". We're supposed to have the best defensive coaching staff in the league now, but all they can do is tell their players to "beat their man". Man, I miss Dick LeBeau.

The inability to scheme up the D when injuries occur keep him from being a great coach, IMO. Sure sounded cool, though, right? Media probably swooning.


https://steelersdepot.com/2022/03/mike-tomlin-on-how-to-improve-run-defense-whoop-blocks-and-make-tackles/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

NJ-STEELER
03-29-2022, 08:57 PM
"whoop blocks"


Coach cool / Coach DMC at it again

hawaiiansteel
03-29-2022, 09:06 PM
we need another #1 draft choice on defense to fix the run D.

obviously...

blacknblue80s
03-29-2022, 09:16 PM
we need another #1 draft choice on defense to fix the run D.

obviously...

An large bodied infusion of youth on the d-line wouldn't hurt.

Flasteel
03-29-2022, 10:41 PM
Play better and be available to play. There is nothing he could have schemed - other than putting a 4-man front out there - given the attrition along the line and the horrid play of the inside backers. You can point fingers at the lack of depth along the line (at least early on) or at ILB, but they weren't going to scheme their way to decency against the run last year.

I would certainly love to see all 340 lbs of Jordan Davis added to the line. I'd also still like to see another inside backer drafted high. I look at Miles Jack as being more of an insurance policy in case the Devin Bush of 2021 is the same guy who shows up in 2022. Otherwise, you're now hoping both your starting backers are able to turn it around after very fugly campaigns last year. That's not a solid plan. Instead, draft a young guy you can rotate in there this year and have him ready to replace the linebacker who doesn't pan-out. I think those two moves would help the Steelers become one of the best teams against the run.

But if they want to simply be better against the run, then all they need is for Tuitt and Alualu to return and have the old Devin Bush return along with them.

T.Ferguson
03-29-2022, 11:05 PM
Coming from the defensive mastermind who's team has given up an average of 43 points a game the last 4 playoff games. Amazing!

WindyCitySteel
03-30-2022, 07:36 AM
I would certainly love to see all 340 lbs of Jordan Davis added to the line.

Yes, that will definitely help, until he gets hurt and they ask Montravious Adams to do his job and don't do anything else to make up the difference. Play big nickel, stack the line, do more two-gapping - anything but Next Man Up.

Next Man Up lets you skate with excuses, though.

Oviedo
03-30-2022, 09:35 AM
"Play better". We're supposed to have the best defensive coaching staff in the league now, but all they can do is tell their players to "beat their man". Man, I miss Dick LeBeau.

The inability to scheme up the D when injuries occur keep him from being a great coach, IMO. Sure sounded cool, though, right? Media probably swooning.


https://steelersdepot.com/2022/03/mike-tomlin-on-how-to-improve-run-defense-whoop-blocks-and-make-tackles/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

You miss the guy who wanted to "tackle the catch" and couldn't adapt to an evolving pass first league

WindyCitySteel
03-30-2022, 10:41 AM
You miss the guy who wanted to "tackle the catch" and couldn't adapt to an evolving pass first league

4 #1 ranked D, 7 top 5, 9 top 10, only once out of the top half of the league.

Since Tomlin took over, no #1, 2 top 5, 4 top 10.

blacknblue80s
03-30-2022, 10:53 AM
Yes, that will definitely help, until he gets hurt and they ask Montravious Adams to do his job and don't do anything else to make up the difference. Play big nickel, stack the line, do more two-gapping - anything but Next Man Up.

Next Man Up lets you skate with excuses, though.
Having one more talented big guy (4 total) would make it less likely that they end up with 1 out of 3 starter capable players available which is what happened last year.

Buzz
03-30-2022, 11:03 AM
Our D was abysmal against the run last season

can't blame it all on coaching because of absences/injuries, but it seems like, more and more, Tomlin is trying to deflect any blame ... I suppose it shouldn't be surprising to have that happen when a HC has been in place for a long time, has ultimate job security, and feels like he's reached celebrity status

but hopefully it's all just talk, and even now, Austin & Flores are working on a plan to firm up the run defense

NorthCoast
03-30-2022, 11:04 AM
A coach can only do so much with the players he's got. I didn't see BAL pull off any miracles when their CBs went down for the season. From 6th in passing yds allowed in 2020 to 32nd in 2021. That's a big fall from grace. And it got their DC fired cause he wouldn't quit.

Buzz
03-30-2022, 11:21 AM
A coach can only do so much with the players he's got. I didn't see BAL pull off any miracles when their CBs went down for the season. From 6th in passing yds allowed in 2020 to 32nd in 2021. That's a big fall from grace. And it got their DC fired cause he wouldn't quit.

This is true, yet with the Ravens firing their DC, it seems to me they are acknowledging that coaching also bore some responsibility for their defensive failures

if it was ALL on players not executing, you don't fire the Wink-man

WindyCitySteel
03-30-2022, 11:27 AM
Didn't the Ravens lose like all of their starting secondary? They still finished slightly ahead of the Steelers in PPG allowed.

Oviedo
03-30-2022, 11:31 AM
You guys are hilarious. You act like Tomlin owes you or the media answers to questions. Talk about a sense of entitlement. Why would he tell anyone what they are planning to do to fix or improve anything? That's internal info not for public discourse.

NorthCoast
03-30-2022, 11:33 AM
This is true, yet with the Ravens firing their DC, it seems to me they are acknowledging that coaching also bore some responsibility for their defensive failures

if it was ALL on players not executing, you don't fire the Wink-manI think there was some surprise when he was let go. Butler saved Tomlin from having to fire him by retiring.

Buzz
03-30-2022, 11:37 AM
I think there was some surprise when he was let go. Butler saved Tomlin from having to fire him by retiring.

Well, the situation with the Steelers was different, because everyone knows the actual DC was Tomlin

SteelerOfDeVille
03-30-2022, 11:40 AM
Man, I miss Dick LeBeau.
He'd have a real Nose Tackle and wouldn't worry about the pass rush from that guy... He'd have someone to keep the ILB clean so they can make all the tackles.

But, would have lost to Big Ben's short passing offense the last 2 years, should he face such a team... His defenses always struggled with that crap.

Buzz
03-30-2022, 11:53 AM
You guys are hilarious. You act like Tomlin owes you or the media answers to questions. Talk about a sense of entitlement. Why would he tell anyone what they are planning to do to fix or improve anything? That's internal info not for public discourse.

I wouldn't expect him to tell anyone what they are planning to do

what I would hope he would say is something on the order of, "We weren't good enough against the run last season, injuries/absences played a role, but from a coaching standpoint, we have to do better at helping the players on the field be successful"

some of y'all complained mightily a few years back when Ben seemed to put all the blame for offensive failure on his teammates, but I guess it's OK when the coach throws his players under the bus

Oviedo
03-30-2022, 12:33 PM
I wouldn't expect him to tell anyone what they are planning to do

what I would hope he would say is something on the order of, "We weren't good enough against the run last season, injuries/absences played a role, but from a coaching standpoint, we have to do better at helping the players on the field be successful"

some of y'all complained mightily a few years back when Ben seemed to put all the blame for offensive failure on his teammates, but I guess it's OK when the coach throws his players under the bus

Why? To make his detractors feel vindicated? They know what went right and didn't.

What does that response accomplish?

Nothing

NJ-STEELER
03-30-2022, 12:52 PM
Well, the situation with the Steelers was different, because everyone knows the actual DC was Tomlin

the only team in the league that needs at least 2/3 of its starters to be high draft choices in order to field a top unit.

thats the “great” coaching we get here in pizzburgh

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
03-30-2022, 01:01 PM
Didn't the Ravens lose like all of their starting secondary? They still finished slightly ahead of the Steelers in PPG allowed.

Marcus Peters was out all year. Other than that, neither safety was on the list and Marlon Humphrey was on the injured list for the last 5 games.

Buzz
03-30-2022, 01:02 PM
Why? To make his detractors feel vindicated? They know what went right and didn't.

What does that response accomplish?

Nothing

it's a little better than the response he gave

what did it accomplish, other than to try to make himself look cool

SteelerOfDeVille
03-30-2022, 01:26 PM
the only team in the league that needs at least 2/3 of its starters to be high draft choices in order to field a top unit.

thats the “great” coaching we get here in pizzburgh
We make these blanket statements like we watch the other teams and we're just smarter than everyone else.

For giggles, I checked the Dallas Cowboys... Of their 11 starters on defense, 9 were selected in Day 1 or 2. As are most of their top backups. That's the very first team I checked.

I'm not wasting my time checking any others... but, henceforth, this is a dumb, invalid argument...

Chucktownsteeler
03-30-2022, 01:32 PM
We make these blanket statements like we watch the other teams and we're just smarter than everyone else.

For giggles, I checked the Dallas Cowboys... Of their 11 starters on defense, 9 were selected in Day 1 or 2. As are most of their top backups. That's the very first team I checked.

I'm not wasting my time checking any others... but, henceforth, this is a dumb, invalid argument...

You are correct and if I recall correctly the Browns secondary is comprised of very high draft picks. And they suck.

whisper
03-30-2022, 01:46 PM
Coming from the defensive mastermind who's team has given up an average of 43 points a game the last 4 playoff games. Amazing!

Wow. That's trash, pure and simple.

feltdizz
03-30-2022, 01:58 PM
it's a little better than the response he gave

what did it accomplish, other than to try to make himself look cool
what’s with this dig of Tomlin trying to look “cool” or being called “cool shades”

feltdizz
03-30-2022, 02:09 PM
We make these blanket statements like we watch the other teams and we're just smarter than everyone else.

For giggles, I checked the Dallas Cowboys... Of their 11 starters on defense, 9 were selected in Day 1 or 2. As are most of their top backups. That's the very first team I checked.

I'm not wasting my time checking any others... but, henceforth, this is a dumb, invalid argument...

of course.. but people have agendas.

Its like when fans used to complain about BA’s bubble screens and empty sets. Why can’t they be like other teams???

Watched the rest of the league and almost every other team was running empty sets and bubble screens.

People just make up stuff and repeat it over and over.

whisper
03-30-2022, 02:33 PM
We make these blanket statements like we watch the other teams and we're just smarter than everyone else.

For giggles, I checked the Dallas Cowboys... Of their 11 starters on defense, 9 were selected in Day 1 or 2. As are most of their top backups. That's the very first team I checked.

I'm not wasting my time checking any others... but, henceforth, this is a dumb, invalid argument...

Not sure what depth charts you were looking at. Depth charts (before injuries)

Dallas D 2021

DE DeMarcus Lawrence, 2nd round
DT Walkin, 4th round
DT Trysten Hill 2
DE Fowler 1
WLB Van Der Esch 1
SLB Parsens 1
CB Brown 6th
SS Kearse 7th
FS Wilson 6th
CB Diggs 2nd

Steelers 2021

DE Cam 1st
DT Talualu 1st
DE Tuitt 2nd
LB Watt 1
LB Bush 1
LB Schobert 4
LB Highsmith 3rd
CB Haden 1
FS Fitzpatrick 1
SS Edmunds 1
CB Sutton 3


One of these things is not like the other...

Buzz
03-30-2022, 04:14 PM
what’s with this dig of Tomlin trying to look “cool” or being called “cool shades”

I don't know about the "cool shades" thing

Sounded to me like he was trying to give a hip-sounding answer ... I can't figure out why else he would say what he said, unless he really believed it (and if that's the case, then we have a problem w/the direction of this team, IMO)

NorthCoast
03-30-2022, 04:24 PM
Not sure what depth charts you were looking at. Depth charts (before injuries)

Dallas D 2021

DE DeMarcus Lawrence, 2nd round
DT Walkin, 4th round
DT Trysten Hill 2
DE Fowler 1
WLB Van Der Esch 1
SLB Parsens 1
CB Brown 6th
SS Kearse 7th
FS Wilson 6th
CB Diggs 2nd

Steelers 2021

DE Cam 1st
DT Talualu 1st
DE Tuitt 2nd
LB Watt 1
LB Bush 1
LB Schobert 4
LB Highsmith 3rd
CB Haden 1
FS Fitzpatrick 1
SS Edmunds 1
CB Sutton 3


One of these things is not like the other...I don't think draft round paints an accurate enough picture. A better measure might be pick #. And it's already been documented that aside from Belichick, Tomlin has the lowest average 1st rd draft pick # of any coach. And there is already a post elsewhere that showed the average bottom of the round 1 pick is worth less than half of the top of round 1. And before you ask, there are sites that track draft capital spent (draft pick #) vs ROI. The Steelers have generally been hovering in the top 10 but have slid some recently. It's one reason why I am not completely broken hearted that Colbert is retiring. He may have lost his edge. And if Tomlin has been leading these decisions then it's something to be watched going forward.

whisper
03-30-2022, 04:32 PM
I don't know about the "cool shades" thing

Sounded to me like he was trying to give a hip-sounding answer ... I can't figure out why else he would say what he said, unless he really believed it (and if that's the case, then we have a problem w/the direction of this team, IMO)

..And bingo was his name-o

crushedspirit
03-30-2022, 04:34 PM
Didn't the Ravens lose like all of their starting secondary? They still finished slightly ahead of the Steelers in PPG allowed.


https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2022/agl-injury-numbers-point-ravens-rebound-2022


But by November, running backs were the least of the Ravens' injury worries. All-Pro players Ronnie Stanley and Marlon Humphrey missed time with ankle and pectoral injuries. First-round rookie Rashod Bateman had a groin injury that delayed his debut until mid-October. Twelve expected starters, replacement starters, and important situational players landed on the non-COVID injured reserve at some point in the regular season. And in Weeks 15 and 16, the team was missing nine defensive backs, including each of their four expected starters. They lost both games as part of seven straight losses to end their season. All told, the Ravens racked up 191.2 AGL. It was the most by a team in our database, and it remains the most when prorated to 16 games.

I remember when they trotted out guys just picked up during the week to play DB. That team was utterly decimated by injuries and Covid all season long.

whisper
03-30-2022, 04:40 PM
I don't think draft round paints an accurate enough picture. A better measure might be pick #. And it's already been documented that aside from Belichick, Tomlin has the lowest average 1st rd draft pick # of any coach. And there is already a post elsewhere that showed the average bottom of the round 1 pick is worth less than half of the top of round 1. And before you ask, there are sites that track draft capital spent (draft pick #) vs ROI. The Steelers have generally been hovering in the top 10 but have slid some recently. It's one reason why I am not completely broken hearted that Colbert is retiring. He may have lost his edge. And if Tomlin has been leading these decisions then it's something to be watched going forward.

Naw, Colbert and Tomlin are the smartest guys in the room when it comes to the draft. Just ask them. The kids playing at MD and VA-area schools are super special; why do you think all the infatuation with Willis out of Liberty? (Yes. Located in VA.)

NJ-STEELER
03-31-2022, 12:07 AM
Not sure what depth charts you were looking at. Depth charts (before injuries)

Dallas D 2021

DE DeMarcus Lawrence, 2nd round
DT Walkin, 4th round
DT Trysten Hill 2
DE Fowler 1
WLB Van Der Esch 1
SLB Parsens 1
CB Brown 6th
SS Kearse 7th
FS Wilson 6th
CB Diggs 2nd

Steelers 2021

DE Cam 1st
DT Talualu 1st
DE Tuitt 2nd
LB Watt 1
LB Bush 1
LB Schobert 4
LB Highsmith 3rd
CB Haden 1
FS Fitzpatrick 1
SS Edmunds 1
CB Sutton 3


One of these things is not like the other...

yeah. He’s wrong.

now deville go do Baltimore and their 2021 season where they finished 2nd in defense with aj fort and 2 late round safeties starting.
a team that’s produced talented starts from more day 3 picks like judon and zadarius smith

BURGH86STEEL
03-31-2022, 05:10 AM
https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2022/03/29/pittsburgh-steelers-mike-tomlin-nfl-owners-meetings-overtime-rules/stories/202203290012

SteelerOfDeVille
03-31-2022, 01:59 PM
Not sure what depth charts you were looking at. Depth charts (before injuries)

Dallas D 2021

DE DeMarcus Lawrence, 2nd round
DT Walkin, 4th round
DT Trysten Hill 2
DE Fowler 1
WLB Van Der Esch 1
SLB Parsens 1
CB Brown 6th
SS Kearse 7th
FS Wilson 6th
CB Diggs 2nd

Steelers 2021

DE Cam 1st
DT Talualu 1st
DE Tuitt 2nd
LB Watt 1
LB Bush 1
LB Schobert 4
LB Highsmith 3rd
CB Haden 1
FS Fitzpatrick 1
SS Edmunds 1
CB Sutton 3


One of these things is not like the other...
First, Steelers 2021 never saw Tuitt hit the field... do you even watch this team? :p
But, if you'd like to take that route, then we shouldn't forget Randy Gregory and Jaylon Smith

Moreover, every one I've check had Jourdan Lewis over Brown. Also Nevell Gallimore DT over Walkin

But, OK....

Joel Buchsbaum
04-01-2022, 07:56 PM
"Play better". We're supposed to have the best defensive coaching staff in the league now, but all they can do is tell their players to "beat their man". Man, I miss Dick LeBeau.

The inability to scheme up the D when injuries occur keep him from being a great coach, IMO. Sure sounded cool, though, right? Media probably swooning.


https://steelersdepot.com/2022/03/mike-tomlin-on-how-to-improve-run-defense-whoop-blocks-and-make-tackles/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

The run D took a hit. We have lost a good DL, and Bush has become a liability. Both spot need to be upgarded. Tolmin for being a wordsmith lack the ideas for Run defense. Hint, find plyaers who get off blocks, and tackle well. Could use some of those guys.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
04-02-2022, 01:42 PM
Something that is not spoken about when it comes to last season's D. I'm going by recollection and don't have the numbers to back it up so not sure if my premise is correct.

I remember many games where the Steelers D started the game holding up against the other team's offense. They would get off the field and the offense would give the ball back on a three and out, or after maybe one first down. The D would then face a shorter field....and hold up. Offense gets the ball back and quickly returns it, putting the D back on the field. After awhile, the D is gassed and allowing the other team to gain some ground on them until eventually they are running on them at will.

Remember, most of the offensive success this team had was in the fourth Q. Either the Steelers were way behind or the game was close enough for the offense to grab a victory and the glory at the end. I guess the stats you'd want are: TOP by Q, yards given up by Q, first downs gained by the Steelers O by Q etc.

Reason for this is to see if maybe with just a bit more support, this D really is not as bad as it looked giving up 200 yard rushing games to everyone. Maybe this D can be the team's strength given the potential return of Tuitt, Alualu, and a healthy Bush and an offense that gives them more than a two minute break and short field over and over again.

Joel Buchsbaum
04-02-2022, 03:26 PM
Sign Will Smith, he'll hit a Rock, honest. On 2nd thought nah he's a thung from Philly and likes the eagles. In reality replace Bush, get a nose tackle, and find a good satefy in run support not named Edmunds. That's a start.

whisper
04-03-2022, 06:29 PM
Sign Will Smith, he'll hit a Rock, honest. On 2nd thought nah he's a thung from Philly and likes the eagles. In reality replace Bush, get a nose tackle, and find a good satefy in run support not named Edmunds. That's a start.


Tomlin has a losing records in the playoffs. Figure it out. 5 years and counting, no playoff wins.

But he wears cool shades and says hip things. That's more important than things like "playoff wins." 5 years, going on 6.

feltdizz
04-04-2022, 10:17 AM
Sign Will Smith, he'll hit a Rock, honest. On 2nd thought nah he's a thung from Philly and likes the eagles. In reality replace Bush, get a nose tackle, and find a good satefy in run support not named Edmunds. That's a start.

what is a thung?

Mr.wizard
04-04-2022, 12:18 PM
But he wears cool shades and says hip things. That's more important than things like "playoff wins." 5 years, going on 6.

What is your obsession with Tomlin's sunglasses?

feltdizz
04-04-2022, 12:35 PM
What is your obsession with Tomlin's sunglasses?

better than SM’s obsession with his balls..

;)

Oviedo
04-04-2022, 12:42 PM
better than SM’s obsession with his balls..

;)


They both hate him so much that they have become mentally deranged and fixate on sexual organs and eyes. There is a psychological disfunction study waiting for someone

Oviedo
04-04-2022, 12:43 PM
better than SM’s obsession with his balls..<br>
<br>
<img src="images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="" smilieid="4" class="inlineimg"><They both hate him so much that they have become mentally deranged and fixate on sexual organs and eyes.

There is a psychological disfunction study waiting for someone

feltdizz
04-04-2022, 01:22 PM
They both hate him so much that they have become mentally deranged and fixate on sexual organs and eyes. There is a psychological disfunction study waiting for someone

its called an obsession.. lol.

hate is glasses
hate his hairline
hate the way he wears his mask
hate his balls

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
04-04-2022, 02:31 PM
But he wears cool shades and says hip things. That's more important than things like "playoff wins." 5 years, going on 6.

Maybe to you but I think most of us want to see wins.

Steel Maniac
04-04-2022, 03:05 PM
<They both hate him so much that they have become mentally deranged and fixate on sexual organs and eyes.

There is a psychological disfunction study waiting for someone

You guys are hilarious. The only obsession that I see are guys determined to defend a guy who's proven that he can't win a chip with good teams for over a decade. hahaha. But him continuing to lose playoff games constantly proves my point about how him. Carry on.

Steel Maniac
04-04-2022, 03:07 PM
Maybe to you but I think most of us want to see wins.

What he does in the regular season is cool; but him constantly getting out coached in the playoffs is what the problem is.

hawaiiansteel
04-04-2022, 03:22 PM
its called an obsession.. lol.

hate his balls

Steel Maniac is definitely obsessed with Tomlin's sexual organs, in particular his balls.

but I don't believe he hates them. in fact, I think he loves them.

whisper
04-04-2022, 04:19 PM
What he does in the regular season is cool; but him constantly getting out coached in the playoffs is what the problem is.

And, it is consistent. That's the real problem. It's not like it's once in a while. Ever since the Super Bowl in 2010. Going on 12 years. Going on 6th straight without a single playoff win. Hasn't his "D" given up over 40 points in 4 straight playoff losses? Wow. That's somethin'. All those 1st-round picks on D and you can't hold your playoff opponent under 40. Sheesh.

hawaiiansteel
08-25-2022, 07:54 PM
CUT CANDIDATES

Montravius Adams

Pittsburgh Steelers · DT

The Steelers snagged Adams after the Saints cut him midseason, and he ended up starting four of his five games in Pittsburgh, earning regular snaps in the rotation and notching a sack of Patrick Mahomes in the playoff loss. But suddenly, Adams appears to be caught up in a numbers game on a fairly deep D-line. Pittsburgh has Cam Heyward, Larry Ogunjobi and Tyson Alualu as roster locks, plus Chris Wormley, DeMarvin Leal and Isaiahh Loudermilk as younger players with more perceived upside. Adams might be on the outside looking in, though he likely can find work elsewhere.


https://www.nfl.com/news/2022-nfl-roster-bubble-notable-players-who-could-be-traded-or-cut

Bawb the Revelator
08-25-2022, 08:39 PM
They both hate him so much that they have become mentally deranged and fixate on sexual organs and eyes. There is a psychological disfunction study waiting for someone

Great. I have the credentials and an experimental design background for legitimate publication. Clean up the spelling and punctuation and we're home free. :D

Bawb the Revelator
08-25-2022, 08:48 PM
CUT CANDIDATES

Montravius Adams

Pittsburgh Steelers · DT

The Steelers snagged Adams after the Saints cut him midseason, and he ended up starting four of his five games in Pittsburgh, earning regular snaps in the rotation and notching a sack of Patrick Mahomes in the playoff loss. But suddenly, Adams appears to be caught up in a numbers game on a fairly deep D-line. Pittsburgh has Cam Heyward, Larry Ogunjobi and Tyson Alualu as roster locks, plus Chris Wormley, DeMarvin Leal and Isaiahh Loudermilk as younger players with more perceived upside. Adams might be on the outside looking in, though he likely can find work elsewhere.


https://www.nfl.com/news/2022-nfl-roster-bubble-notable-players-who-could-be-traded-or-cut

Does Omar's speed dial tell him which NFL club is short on DLs for a trade? Omar gets Artie's money but I get bupkis. Sheesh! FOCUS!!!:D

Mr.wizard
08-26-2022, 07:55 AM
The run D took a hit. We have lost a good DL, and Bush has become a liability. Both spot need to be upgarded. Tolmin for being a wordsmith lack the ideas for Run defense. Hint, find plyaers who get off blocks, and tackle well. Could use some of those guys.

Really? Mike Tomlin along with Brian Flores and an experienced coaching staff lack the ideas for run defense? Do you think they are looking for guys who don't get off blocks and dont tackle well? I am also not sure why we are acting like the run defense has already failed? News flash, the season hasnt started yet, you havent seen the starting defense yet, and you havent seen really any of the scheme yet.

TheRealTazz864
08-26-2022, 10:24 AM
"Play better". We're supposed to have the best defensive coaching staff in the league now, but all they can do is tell their players to "beat their man". Man, I miss Dick LeBeau.

The inability to scheme up the D when injuries occur keep him from being a great coach, IMO. Sure sounded cool, though, right? Media probably swooning.


https://steelersdepot.com/2022/03/mike-tomlin-on-how-to-improve-run-defense-whoop-blocks-and-make-tackles/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Who said Pittsburgh had the best defensive coaching staff in the league now?? There are a lot of coaches with D-whatever on their resumes... It sounds like that opinion comes from the Dick LeBeau era, too...

Pittsburgh was 24th vs. the pass last season, and last against the rush... Don't results tell us how effective the coaching is??

TheRealTazz864
08-26-2022, 10:34 AM
Didn't the Ravens lose like all of their starting secondary? They still finished slightly ahead of the Steelers in PPG allowed.

They still finished behind the Steelers in W-L... which is the stat that matters....

Steel Maniac
08-26-2022, 11:11 AM
"Play better". We're supposed to have the best defensive coaching staff in the league now, but all they can do is tell their players to "beat their man". Man, I miss Dick LeBeau.

The inability to scheme up the D when injuries occur keep him from being a great coach, IMO. Sure sounded cool, though, right? Media probably swooning.


https://steelersdepot.com/2022/03/mike-tomlin-on-how-to-improve-run-defense-whoop-blocks-and-make-tackles/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Has he fixed it yet? Asking for a friend.

TheRealTazz864
08-26-2022, 02:51 PM
Great. I have the credentials and an experimental design background for legitimate publication. Clean up the spelling and punctuation and we're home free. :D

Yeah, that "-" that should be a "+" is just a punctuation error... :wink:

hawaiiansteel
09-16-2022, 08:36 PM
Bush looked much improved vs Bungles:


https://steelersdepot.com/2022/09/film-room-devin-bush-shows-real-signs-of-improvement-in-win-over-bengals/

feltdizz
09-16-2022, 08:48 PM
Has he fixed it yet? Asking for a friend.

did you predict Mixon was going to gash us?

ROLROC
09-16-2022, 10:46 PM
Obviously we are going to miss Watt for his big play ability. But I think we are going to miss him on run D more than anything.
I hope Reed and others can keep outside contain but I'm doubtful.

TheRealTazz864
09-16-2022, 11:07 PM
did you predict Mixon was going to gash us?

3 yards per carry is NOT gashing anyone... Especially considering he averaged over 4 last season...

TheRealTazz864
09-16-2022, 11:12 PM
And, it is consistent. That's the real problem. It's not like it's once in a while. Ever since the Super Bowl in 2010. Going on 12 years. Going on 6th straight without a single playoff win. Hasn't his "D" given up over 40 points in 4 straight playoff losses? Wow. That's somethin'. All those 1st-round picks on D and you can't hold your playoff opponent under 40. Sheesh.

Didn't Joe Mix' only average about 3 ypa Sunday?? Wasn't his 2021 season average over 4?? At least you say consistently stupid sh-tuff... Sheesh...