im back guys, what did i miss?

[squidkid]

.......tomlin choking away another season with plenty of talent?......seen it before
tomlin fans boys making excuses for his piss poor coaching?..........seen it before
tomlin blaming turnovers and kicking for his F ups?...............seen it before
tomlin fans boys gonna use butler as the scapegoat this year?............seen it before, (different guy tho)

[Steel Maniac]

Squid!!!

Well, it went down like you said it would. And of course the usual ball washers are working overtime to scrub up Tomlin’s testicles and explaining everything away. Same old, same old.

[Ghost]

Another .500 + season. All is good. Big success...

[squidkid]

didnt i say this team was headed in the wrong direction the last few years?
no discipline. no heart, all talk and no walk?
didnt i say tomlin couldnt win anything without cowhers players?

[squidkid]

Another .500 + season. All is good. Big success...

dont forget only 3 coaches in 50 years.....

[Steel Maniac]

Hey squid,

It gets better. Ruthlinsberger tried to flex on me. Gave me a whole written monologue on why the browns would win and how Mayfield is going to lead them to victory and what they did before and blah, blah, blah.

I simply told him the browns are not going to win and that as good as Mayfield is, he’s not going to be able to handle the #1 defense when they turn it up. I told Ruth to show up after the game when the browns lose. Guess what happened? Ruth went MIA on me!! And it was Mayfield who threw the pick to ice their loss, just like I told him!!

[squidkid]

Hey squid,

It gets better. Ruthlinsberger tried to flex on me. Gave me a whole written monologue on why the browns would win and how Mayfield is going to lead them to victory and what they did before and blah, blah, blah.

I simply told him the browns are not going to win and that as good as Mayfield is, he’s not going to be able to handle the #1 defense when they turn it up. I told Ruth to show up after the game when the browns lose. Guess what happened? Ruth went MIA on me!! And it was Mayfield who threw the pick to ice their loss, just like I told him!!


wow, i had no problem manning up and not posting until after our season ended.(which wasnt long by the way)

[Steel Maniac]

I don’t know why Ruth would try and flex on me out the blue. I hope he doesn’t do that to himself again.

[Steel Maniac]

wow, i had no problem manning up and not posting until after our season ended.(which wasnt long by the way)

Well as you can see, Ruth is gone. So he can’t say anything to you. Because as you referred to.. it’s about manning up. And Ruth has tucked his tail.

[flippy]

Welcome back. Your complaints have been missed. ;)

You don’t get special credit for predicting the team will not win a SuperBowl. 97% of teams don’t win every year.

Its almost like me predicting you will you will never win the PowerBall and posting about it daily :)

Seriously though, I do miss your deadpan sense of humor. Welcome back just in time to disappear like most do during the off-season.

[Steel Maniac]

Hahahahahahaha

[squidkid]

Welcome back. Your complaints have been missed. ;)

You don’t get special credit for predicting the team will not win a SuperBowl. 97% of teams don’t win every year.

Its almost like me predicting you will you will never win the PowerBall and posting about it daily :)

Seriously though, I do miss your deadpan sense of humor. Welcome back just in time to disappear like most do during the off-season.

i wont be going anywhere. i need to remind the lovers how i was right and they were wrong...............if they stick around

[Captain Lemming]

i wont be going anywhere. i need to remind the lovers how i was right and they were wrong...............if they stick around

Welcome back Squid.
They were wrong?
Who "predicted" we win anything?

I know "I" made one prediction......and yes "I" was right and you were wrong.....which is why you are just now back. :)

And as Slappy said, "predicting" any team will not win the SB is no genius move.
You wanna crow.....link to the preseason post where you said we'd miss the playoffs this year.

[Steel Maniac]

Welcome back Squid.
They were wrong?
Who "predicted" we win anything?

I know "I" made one prediction......and yes "I" was right and you were wrong.....which is why you are just now back. :)

And as Slappy said, "predicting" any team will not win the SB is no genius move.
You wanna crow.....link to the preseason post where you said we'd miss the playoffs this year.

Mighty nice of you to remind him of his preseason prediction. Squid, do yourself a favor, don’t participate in any of these type of bets. You have a very unpopular stance with some and some poster are just looking to stick it to you.

With that said, just do as I do and stick to the truth, show your evidence that supports your stance and dont personally insult any particular poster.

Stick hard to numbers and incidents that support your stance.

Here’s an example of what I mean; this little new factoid has the Tomlin lovers seathing...

Last three years..

2016.. made it to the AFC championship..
2017.. made it to the similar finals.....
2018.. didn’t even make the playoffs...

Clear and undeniable regression by Tomlin; including players talking on cell phones during games.

This is how you hitem; with pure undeniable truth.

[squidkid]

Welcome back Squid.
They were wrong?
Who "predicted" we win anything?

I know "I" made one prediction......and yes "I" was right and you were wrong.....which is why you are just now back. :)

And as Slappy said, "predicting" any team will not win the SB is no genius move.
You wanna crow.....link to the preseason post where you said we'd miss the playoffs this year.

i have stated many times over the past several seasons that tomlin cant win in the post season and has the team headed in the wrong direction. i have stated that he won with cowhers players and the more of his drafted players the worse he does in the post season. many 'fans' argue and say that isnt true. so, another season comes to end end and another season i am right and they were wrong

[squidkid]

Mighty nice of you to remind him of his preseason prediction. Squid, do yourself a favor, don’t participate in any of these type of bets. You have a very unpopular stance with some and some poster are just looking to stick it to you.

With that said, just do as I do and stick to the truth, show your evidence that supports your stance and dont personally insult any particular poster.

Stick hard to numbers and incidents that support your stance.

Here’s an example of what I mean; this little new factoid has the Tomlin lovers seathing...

Last three years..

2016.. made it to the AFC championship..
2017.. made it to the similar finals.....
2018.. didn’t even make the playoffs...

Clear and undeniable regression by Tomlin; including players talking on cell phones during games.

This is how you hitem; with pure undeniable truth.

dude, i am good.
until tomlin wins a super bowl with his own players, i am the winner

[Captain Lemming]

i have stated many times over the past several seasons that tomlin cant win in the post season and has the team headed in the wrong direction. i have stated that he won with cowhers players and the more of his drafted players the worse he does in the post season. many 'fans' argue and say that isnt true. so, another season comes to end end and another season i am right and they were wrong

Yes, during our playoff drought, when you showed up here you did say, Tomlin could not win in the post season with his own players reminding us that he had not won a playoff game for several years.

You have already been proven wrong. :)

[hawaiiansteel]

dude, i am good.
until tomlin wins a super bowl with his own players, i am the winner

you mean Tomlin's Super Bowl win in 2008 doesn't count because it had players on the team that Cowher went 8-8 with in his final season?

oh okay...

[Steel Maniac]

Players and coaches.....

[hawaiiansteel]

Players and coaches.....

imo players, coaches and the front office are all to blame for us missing the playoffs this season...

[squidkid]

you mean Tomlin's Super Bowl win in 2008 doesn't count because it had players on the team that Cowher went 8-8 with in his final season?

oh okay...

yup, barry switzer won with his players too:rolleyes:

ok, so what did tomlin do with tomlins players after winning the super bowl the next year?

[squidkid]

imo players, coaches and the front office are all to blame for us missing the playoffs this season...


but you just want players to be upgraded, front office and position coaches but not the HC?

[flippy]

but you just want players to be upgraded, front office and position coaches but not the HC?

Can we upgrade the owner while we’re at it ;)

[Steel Maniac]

2008?? We are going into the 2019 season now!!

I didn’t know you get a 8 year hall pass even when 6-7 of those years we had teams loaded enough with talent to make at least one super bowl appearance.

Wow. They give free passes now for 8 years and more. Man , the bar has really gone down around here.

[flippy]

Can we upgrade the owner while we’re at it ;)

And better fans too :)

[squidkid]

And better fans too :)

that goes hand in hand with having a better team

[hawaiiansteel]

ok, so what did tomlin do with tomlins players after winning the super bowl the next year?

went back to the Super Bowl again in 2010...

[squidkid]

went back to the Super Bowl again in 2010...


ummmm, 2009?

[Captain Lemming]

ummmm, 2009?

No 2010 season, SB was in Feb 2011

[Captain Lemming]

yup, barry switzer won with his players too:rolleyes:

ok, so what did tomlin do with tomlins players after winning the super bowl the next year?

And Tomlin has been to 3 SBs while the Cowboys have been to Zip since Switzer was fired.

Also Switzer inherited a dynasty.
Tomlin inherited an 8-8 team on the decline in every facet of the game.

After he won a SB......he got to another one....Feb 2011.

[squidkid]

And Tomlin has been to 3 SBs while the Cowboys have been to Zip since Switzer was fired.

Also Switzer inherited a dynasty.
Tomlin inherited an 8-8 team on the decline in every facet of the game.

After he won a SB......he got to another one....Feb 2011.


lol.....decline................please

[Captain Lemming]

lol.....decline................please

Thats right.....you are wise to "decline" any bet with me. :)

[squidkid]

And Tomlin has been to 3 SBs while the Cowboys have been to Zip since Switzer was fired.

Also Switzer inherited a dynasty.
Tomlin inherited an 8-8 team on the decline in every facet of the game.

After he won a SB......he got to another one....Feb 2011.


how has tomlin done in the playoffs with less and less of cowers players and coaches?
the last 8 years or so?

so switzer was a great coach that they never should have gotten rid of then, right?

[Steel Maniac]

Tomlin has been to two Super Bowls; you stop that Captain!!

[Steel Maniac]

Tomlin beat the cardinals and lost to Green Bay. And the Green Bay Super Bowl was 2011 for the 2010 season. Lol

[Steel Maniac]

Both of those teams that Tomlin took were teams made up of Cowher players and coaches.

[Captain Lemming]

Tomlin has been to two Super Bowls; you stop that Captain!!

Tomlin has TWO SB championship rings my friend and lost on the third."Just" a position coach with the Bucs.

And Maniac, what was the dominant unit on that team BY FAR that season?

That team "had" a HOF dt before Tomlin.
That team had a HOF olber before Tomlin.

That elite secondary was DEVELOPED by Tomlin.

It was the best unit on the team, better than Steeler secondaries with GOAT level cornerback talent.

[Captain Lemming]

Both of those teams that Tomlin took were teams made up of Cowher players and coaches.

Same guys who were 8-8 the prior season? :)

[Steel Maniac]

Captain, ... your wrong. Tomlin has ONE super bowl victory ring. Just one. Tomlin has made only two super bowl appearances. As head coach.

I"m not counting a position coach ring. Hahahahaha. We are only interested in his head coaching tenure.

[Steel Maniac]

Same guys who were 8-8 the prior season? :)

Exactly...he was able to coach guys who were already legit. I give him that. I never denied it. But he can't develop guys of his own. And that's where we are a decade later.

[NorthCoast]

Captain, ... your wrong. Tomlin has ONE super bowl victory ring. Just one. Tomlin has made only two super bowl appearances. As head coach.

I"m not counting a position coach ring. Hahahahaha. We are only interested in his head coaching tenure.And yet you continue to harp about Tomlin's specialty as a DB coach.

[squidkid]

And yet you continue to harp about Tomlin's specialty as a DB coach.


one would assume that a DC with a secondary specialty would be able to have a competent one after 12 years.................thats the harp
enjoy your above .500 seson trophy

[Captain Lemming]

one would assume that a DC with a secondary specialty would be able to have a competent one after 12 years.................thats the harp
enjoy your above .500 seson trophy

12 years?
Since 2000 what is the ONLY TEAM that allowed a mere 2 teams to reach 200 yards passing?
League of boom? No.
Broncos with not one but TWO elite corners? Nope.

2008 Steelers allowed just 2 teams to get 200 yards passing in the regular season.
High allowed was 220 to then all pro QB Peyton Manning.

It allowed the second fewest passing yards of the era (2000s).

Fewest passing yards of the era and EASILY the best statistical team of the era? 2002 Bucs. ;)

[Captain Lemming]

Yes he did it with Cowhers (20th ranked pass defense) players.
Before you “go there” my friends.

If Tomlin were fired and a secondary specialist replaced him and got THIS secondary to play at an elite level, resurrecting the career of benched Artie Burns (exactly what Tomlin did with Ike), starts Chickillo from the bench (like Harrison) who becomes an all pro, does Tomlin get credit because it was HIS players?

That would be RIDICULOUS and you know it.

[Northern_Blitz]

Captain, ... your wrong. Tomlin has ONE super bowl victory ring. Just one. Tomlin has made only two super bowl appearances. As head coach.

I"m not counting a position coach ring. Hahahahaha. We are only interested in his head coaching tenure.

What percentage of HCs have a SB ring?

What percentage have 2 SB appearances?

My guess is that putting "only" in those accomplishments isn't reflective of how difficult they are.

Exaggerated Example: Marie Curie "only" got two Nobel Prizes.

[Steel Maniac]

Captain...

What legit secondary player has Tomlin drafted and developed?
What legit secondary has Tomlin put together since McFadden and Troy have gone?

Tomlin is a grade C coach. And if it wasn’t for the players he inherited from Cowher, he’d have no super bowl rings or appearancrces. Harrison just came on the undisputed yesterday and said the same thing.

I love you Cap but you don’t know more then Harrison. No one in here knows more on the inner workings of that team then Harrison.