McCarthy Out in GB

[NorthCoast]

pretty shocking for a SB winning coach to get released in the middle of the season"


http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25437159/green-bay-packers-fire-coach-mike-mccarthy-loss-cardinals

[Steel Maniac]

Because he was a fraud and has been a fraud. Rodgers greatness masked how bad a coach McCarthy really was.

[squidkid]

Because he was a fraud and has been a fraud. Rodgers greatness masked how bad a coach McCarthy really was.


and tomlin?

[Steel Maniac]

Soooooo many coaches are on the hot seat now. Rivera, Quinn, Lewis. And Joseph is trying to save his job in Denver. Gonna be a wild finish.

[Steel Maniac]

and tomlin?
You know my thoughts on him. As I’ve been saying for 5 months, if we flame out again, he will be canned. Minority owners wanted him gone last year and if we don’t come out this funk and lose the division,I think he’s done.

[steeler_george]

There was a reason why McCarthy was fired, and yet . so many want want him to replace Tomlin, who at times ( a lot of times) just looks out coached. Is Tomlin a good coach? Yes and no.

But I can see how his seat is warming up, as a coach he hasn't matured to his potential. Keeps on failing, over and over, on the same issues. Bad clock management, in game decisions-changes, too risky at times and outsmarts himself too many times.

[Steel Maniac]

Lynn out choached Tomlin starting at half time. Chargers made adjustments and Tomlin had no answer . How often have we seen that from Tomlin?

[Sword]

Lynn out coached Tomlin starting at half time. Chargers made adjustments and Tomlin had no answer . How often have we seen that from Tomlin?
many times...if we fail again this year...fire Tomlin and Butler....tired of this crap....bring in a top College Coach..not within our organization.....

[Steel Maniac]

Don't worry; Let's just watch what happens after a loss at home the Pats and then to the Saints.

[squidkid]

You know my thoughts on him. As I’ve been saying for 5 months, if we flame out again, he will be canned. Minority owners wanted him gone last year and if we don’t come out this funk and lose the division,I think he’s done.


tomlin isnt going anywhere unless he wants to.
underachieving is ok as long as you have a good regular season record, among other things

[phillyesq]

Lynn out choached Tomlin starting at half time. Chargers made adjustments and Tomlin had no answer . How often have we seen that from Tomlin?

More than that, I think that Whiz owned Butler. He simply put Allen in the slot, and it got him matched up with Dupree, Fort and Bostic in coverage all night long. It was unbelievable.

[Steel Maniac]

More than that, I think that Whiz owned Butler. He simply put Allen in the slot, and it got him matched up with Dupree, Fort and Bostic in coverage all night long. It was unbelievable.

I agree. But it all comes down to adjusting. Who's responsible for that adjustment in your opinion?

[squidkid]

I agree. But it all comes down to adjusting. Who's responsible for that adjustment in your opinion?


gotta be the players. they should have made the changes themselves and went against the coaches

[Northern_Blitz]

I agree. But it all comes down to adjusting. Who's responsible for that adjustment in your opinion?

I think the D-coordinator should have the primary responsibility here. But when it happens consistently, the HC and GM have to shoulder some of the blame for not firing and replacing the DC.

But, I also think that mid-season coaching changes pretty much end the season. Especially for our D, which seems to be populated with guys that aren't great at learning new stuff and / or communicating.

[Steel Maniac]

I think the D-coordinator should have the primary responsibility here. But when it happens consistently, the HC and GM have to shoulder some of the blame for not firing and replacing the DC.

But, I also think that mid-season coaching changes pretty much end the season. Especially for our D, which seems to be populated with guys that aren't great at learning new stuff and / or communicating.

ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!! We have a winner!!

Because it's been happening constantly over a 4-5 years period. We blamed Lebeau, got rid of him.
We got rid of different defensive positional coaches over the 4-5 years period too.
So with all that turnover, what has been the constant?

[pittpete]

Sometimes you just pull your hair out.
On a Charger drive in the second half they kept Chickillo,Ogbanyi and Alualu in on almost the whole drive while Cam,Tuitt and Watt stood on the sidelines.
Why do we have to rest TJ Watt?
Also in the Chargers last drive on 3rd and 5 why the f*ck was Bostic in?
Bellichek said it years ago, the Steelers' refusal to take their LBers off the field is their downfall

[pittpete]

To get back to the topic>>>
How crazy would it be to get Pittsburgh native, McCarthy here as a QB Coach or OC to work with our young QB's?
I have no faith that the current coaching staff/Tomlin can get these guys on track.
I honestly think that Ben might be playing his last season in the Burgh.
That INT he threw last night was an abomination.
The stadium cringed when he threw the TD to AB with 3 defenders near.
For a team that cant get a takeaway for its life, Ben is just too wreckless and carefree with the ball.

[Steel Maniac]

Sorry but I dont want McCarthy; he’s another Tomlin. We need someone fresh and not a coach who can’t hire or fire his own staff.

[Ghost]

McCarthy had 2 years of Farve and 11 of Rodgers and 1 SB win (and even that win was more on the Steelers losing it with having 3 turnovers including a pick 6 and the Mendenhall fumble). Otherwise McCathy is nothing but a tired re-tread who's consistently failed in the playoffs. No thanks. We've just lived a decade of that.

Tomlin isn't going anywhere, but when he does, I hope the Steelers look for a young, new to head coaching guy who's hungry, not some other teams cast off.

[Northern_Blitz]

McCarthy had 2 years of Farve and 11 of Rodgers and 1 SB win (and even that win was more on the Steelers losing it with having 3 turnovers including a pick 6 and the Mendenhall fumble). Otherwise McCathy is nothing but a tired re-tread who's consistently failed in the playoffs. No thanks. We've just lived a decade of that.

Tomlin isn't going anywhere, but when he does, I hope the Steelers look for a young, new to head coaching guy who's hungry, not some other teams cast off.

I agree that Tomlin isn't going anywhere anytime soon and I agree that's what they do when they replace him.

I know that they only have 3 coaches in my lifetime, but this seems to be their MO. Get someone young and hungry that can coach the team for the next 20 years or so.

[pittpete]

We are talking about developing a QB here not replacing the HC.
Who do you think helped in Favre and Rodgers development?
We have a defensive HC and look at our defense?
We had a stud D which allowed Ben to slide in.

[Steel Maniac]

I agree that Tomlin isn't going anywhere anytime soon and I agree that's what they do when they replace him.

I know that they only have 3 coaches in my lifetime, but this seems to be their MO. Get someone young and hungry that can coach the team for the next 20 years or so.

Let Tomlin lose to the Raiders this Sunday then...