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RuthlessBurgher
05-09-2018, 04:41 PM
Steelers sign fifth-round pick Jaylen Samuels

Posted by Josh Alper on May 9, 2018, 4:15 PM EDT

Running back Jaylen Samuels is the first member of the Steelers’ 2018 draft class to sign a contract with the team.

The Steelers announced that Samuels, who was selected in the fifth round with the 165th overall selection, agreed to a four-year deal on Wednesday. The Steelers drafted seven players overall last month.

Samuels caught 201 passes and ran the ball 182 times over four years at North Carolina State, which led Steelers coach Mike Tomlin to call him “a versatile guy” after the draft. N.C. State assistant Eddie Faulkner went so far as to compare Samuels to the versatile guy the Steelers have used at running back for the last five years.

“He’s very similar to a Le’Veon [Bell], to be honest with you,” Faulkner said, via the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. “He’s a really good receiver. He can run the ball. He does a lot of things well.”

Comparing Samuels to Bell may be a stretch, but Samuels will get a chance to prove otherwise with more reps up for grabs as long as Bell stays away from the team this offseason in his ongoing push for a new contract.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/05/09/steelers-sign-fifth-round-pick-jaylen-samuels/

squidkid
05-09-2018, 04:45 PM
hopefully hes not too much like bell

Steel Maniac
05-09-2018, 05:23 PM
Get him in there! He's going to get a lot of work early on.

Shawn
05-09-2018, 08:20 PM
I was about to call Samuels the poor mans Bell before the draft. He doesn't have Bells instincts and vision...nor his speed. But he is a jack of all trades and he may have better hands. He does it all and he is good at it all.

Disco1981
05-09-2018, 10:05 PM
I was about to call Samuels the poor mans Bell before the draft. He doesn't have Bells instincts and vision...nor his speed. But he is a jack of all trades and he may have better hands. He does it all and he is good at it all.

Bell doesn't have speed...His longest gain in the last 2 years is 19 yards...That's the 1 thing Bell DOESN'T have

Buzz
05-10-2018, 12:09 AM
If Samuels is slower than Bell, that's not encouraging.

Disco1981
05-10-2018, 09:38 AM
Samuels ran a 4.54 at the combine...not bad at all for his size

feltdizz
05-10-2018, 09:45 AM
I was about to call Samuels the poor mans Bell before the draft. He doesn't have Bells instincts and vision...nor his speed. But he is a jack of all trades and he may have better hands. He does it all and he is good at it all.

Bells hands are pretty good. Can't wait to see what this kid can do.

I thought Conner had decent hands but the NFL ball comes a little faster and is a little slicker. Hopefully he can make the roster and contribute this year.

SanAntonioSteelerFan
05-10-2018, 10:27 AM
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I thought Conner had decent hands but the NFL ball comes a little faster and is a little slicker. Hopefully he can make the roster and contribute this year.

Silly rabbit ... not if you just let a little of the air out of the ball!! :p

RuthlessBurgher
05-10-2018, 10:28 AM
Silly rabbit ... not if you just let a little of the air out of the ball!! :p

Those Trix are for Pats! ;)

Steel Maniac
05-10-2018, 10:28 AM
Samuels ran a 4.54 at the combine...not bad at all for his size

that isn't slow for a guy his size and weight.

Slapstick
05-10-2018, 11:02 AM
Samuels ran a 4.54 at the combine...not bad at all for his size

Bell ran a 4.6, IIRC...

Also, I think Samuels had comparable 3 cone and 20 yard short shuttle times, though I think Bell's were slightly better...

feltdizz
05-10-2018, 11:08 AM
Bell ran a 4.6, IIRC...

Also, I think Samuels had comparable 3 cone and 20 yard short shuttle times, though I think Bell's were slightly better...

Wasn't Bell 20 pounds heavier when we drafted him?

Slapstick
05-10-2018, 11:12 AM
Wasn't Bell 20 pounds heavier when we drafted him?

Bell was 230 at the combine...Samuels was 225...

feltdizz
05-10-2018, 03:23 PM
Bell was 230 at the combine...Samuels was 225...

my point is I think Bell may be a little faster than 4.6 without the extra weight.

Slapstick
05-10-2018, 03:29 PM
my point is I think Bell may be a little faster than 4.6 without the extra weight.


Maybe. It doesn’t show, though...

RuthlessBurgher
05-10-2018, 04:05 PM
Steelers sign Allen and Frazier

Posted 5 minutes ago

Teresa Varley

Steelers.com

Steelers signed two more of their draft picks, Marcus Allen and Joshua Frazier.

The Steelers signed fifth-round draft pick Marcus Allen and seventh-round draft pick Joshua Frazier to four-year contracts. Allen was the team’s first of two picks in the fifth round, taken with the 148th overall pick. Frazier was the team’s second of two picks in the seventh round, taken with the 246th overall pick.

Allen, a safety from Penn State, and Frazier, a defensive tackle from Alabama, are the second and third of the team’s seven players from the 2018 NFL Draft to sign.

“Marcus is a big hitter, a good special teams player, and gives us some versatility in the secondary,” said defensive backs coach Tom Bradley. “He is a big-time tackler. He will strike you, that’s one thing, he is a very physical tackler. He is a real physical person around the ball. Probably the best part of his game is how physical he is. He gets after you pretty good.

“At Penn State he played some two-deep, he plays some invert, he plays free. They moved him around a lot. When he’s around the ball, it’s what he does best. I think that’s the thing that we took notice of. He’s a big kid, room for growth.”

Allen, the sixth player in Penn State history to top the 300-tackle mark, was selected first-team All-Big Ten by the coaches and Associated Press first-team All-Big Ten selection.

“I am definitely going to work on every aspect of my game, whether that is form tackling, creating more turnovers, coverage, everything,” said Allen. “I am just going to be working my butt off. This is my job now.”

Allen’s father, Shawn Allen, is from the Homewood area of Pittsburgh and while they now live in Maryland, they still have plenty of family in Pittsburgh. He grew up a Steelers fan, and said he immediately put on a Steelers hat once he got the call that he was drafted by the Steelers.

“This is my home man,” said Allen. “It’s my hometown. My grandmother is from there. My grandfather is from there - my whole family. I am a Steelers fan. I got all this Steelers gear in my room.”

Frazier was coached in college by new Steelers defensive line coach Karl Dunbar, so there is plenty of familiarity there.

“I think he is strong at the point, he can push the pocket and the good thing about it is I coached him the last two years,” said Dunbar. “He can demand two blockers. He is a big, athletic kid who you can’t find a lot of. When you do you have to take advantage.”

Frazier played in 40 games at Alabama, finished with 28 tackles, two sacks, three passes defensed and a forced fumble.

“Coach Dunbar, he was my defensive line coach my junior and senior years at Alabama, I know he’ll take care of me and help me get settled,” said Frazier. “But once you’re in the league, it’s dog-eat-dog, and you have to take care of yourself.”

http://www.steelers.com/news/transactions/article-4/Steelers-sign-Allen-and-Frazier/3f81f34e-5a8e-4791-bc32-fc0cb8ee5e0a

Steel Maniac
05-11-2018, 10:45 AM
I like Frazier's mentality; sounds ready to meet the challenge.

RuthlessBurgher
05-11-2018, 10:22 PM
By Charean Williams
May 11, 2018, 8:01 PM EDT
Steelers sign James Washington

The Steelers have signed second-rounder James Washington, a source told PFT. He becomes the fourth of the team’s seven draft picks to sign a four-year deal.

Pittsburgh made the Oklahoma State receiver the 60th overall selection.

Washington made 226 catches for 4,472 yards and 39 touchdowns. He also rushed for 70 yards and a touchdown.

The Steelers were in need of receiver depth after trading Martavis Bryant to the Raiders. Washington played with the Steelers’ third-round pick, quarterback Mason Rudolph, at Oklahoma State. Rudolph is one of the Steelers’ three draft picks to remain unsigned.

Shawn
05-15-2018, 01:33 PM
Bell doesn't have speed...His longest gain in the last 2 years is 19 yards...That's the 1 thing Bell DOESN'T have Bell has elite burst...and I mean elite for his size. It's why he can get away with his pause move before he hits a hole. Top end not so much. Samuels doesn't have that kind of burst...takes a bit to get going.

Shawn
05-15-2018, 01:36 PM
Maybe. It doesn’t show, though... I'm not sure why people can't see his burst...his near instant acceleration. It's why he can get away with what he does.

Shawn
05-15-2018, 01:37 PM
that isn't slow for a guy his size and weight. Not at all. Once Samuels gets going he has enough speed to make DBs and LBrs respect him. But, if you watch his tape...when he is actually a running back he looks sluggish. It takes him a bit to get there. And the way a guy plays in pads and undies is completely different often times.

Slapstick
05-15-2018, 02:11 PM
I'm not sure why people can't see his burst...his near instant acceleration. It's why he can get away with what he does.

Oh no, I definitely see his burst...it’s just that his longest rush last year was 27 yards...he is quick, but not a speedster...

feltdizz
05-15-2018, 09:40 PM
Oh no, I definitely see his burst...it’s just that his longest rush last year was 27 yards...he is quick, but not a speedster...

Wait.. because he didn’t have a long run last year it means he isn’t fast?

He had an 81 yard run bs the Panthers in 2016. It really comes down to the defense and how they attack the play. I think teams are changing their philosophy when they defend Bell.

Once again fans are using one year to make blanket statements about Bell. That isn’t honest

Buzz
05-15-2018, 11:57 PM
I'd rather have my RB consistently rip off good chunks of positive yardage, and regularly pick up first downs, than to occasionally come up with a long run.

Slapstick
05-16-2018, 06:34 AM
Nobody really said anything about what they would rather Bell do...

Willie Parker was fast. Bell is not like that...

Is Bell a better RB? Yes! That isn’t in question...Is he a “fast” RB? Well, just about all NFL RBs have to be fast...Bell isn’t exceptionally so, and that’s okay...

Buzz
05-16-2018, 09:23 AM
Nobody really said anything about what they would rather Bell do...

Willie Parker was fast. Bell is not like that...

Is Bell a better RB? Yes! That isn’t in question...Is he a “fast” RB? Well, just about all NFL RBs have to be fast...Bell isn’t exceptionally so, and that’s okay...
Agreed. In fact, in terms of the big picture, it might be better for him. Other RBs lose a step in speed as they age, and they're done. Where Bell isn't quite as reliant on that part of his game, his effectiveness may not decline as rapidly as he gets older.

I still don't think we should pay him way above the market value for RBs, though.

Shawn
05-16-2018, 11:26 AM
Oh no, I definitely see his burst...it’s just that his longest rush last year was 27 yards...he is quick, but not a speedster... That I agree with. His top end is limited but quick as HE double hockey sticks.

Shawn
05-16-2018, 11:28 AM
Agreed. In fact, in terms of the big picture, it might be better for him. Other RBs lose a step in speed as they age, and they're done. Where Bell isn't quite as reliant on that part of his game, his effectiveness may not decline as rapidly as he gets older.

I still don't think we should pay him way above the market value for RBs, though. That's a strong observation. I would agree. If Bell can stay healthy he could have a long career because his kind of talents have a longer shelf life.

RuthlessBurgher
05-22-2018, 04:43 PM
Steelers sign third-rounder Chukwuma Okorafor

Posted by Josh Alper on May 22, 2018, 4:41 PM EDT

The Steelers have another one of their 2018 draft picks under contract.

The team announced on Tuesday that third-round pick Chukwuma Okorafor has agreed to a four-year deal. The offensive tackle was one of two third-round picks by the Steelers this year. Quarterback Mason Rudolph was also drafted in that round and joins first-round safety Terrell Edmunds as unsigned picks in Pittsburgh.

“He is a guy that is going to fit what we are looking for,” Steelers offensive line coach Mike Munchak said, via the team. “He can play right or left tackle. Great size, great strength. I am excited about the opportunity to work with him. I am excited to add someone of his caliber, someone who has a chance to grow, improve.”

Okorafor was born in Nigeria and didn’t play football until high school. He wound up as an Outland Trophy finalist after his final season at Western Michigan.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/05/22/steelers-sign-third-rounder-chukwuma-okorafor/

SanAntonioSteelerFan
05-22-2018, 09:03 PM
Steelers sign third-rounder Chukwuma Okorafor

Posted by Josh Alper on May 22, 2018, 4:41 PM EDT

The Steelers have another one of their 2018 draft picks under contract.

The team announced on Tuesday that third-round pick Chukwuma Okorafor has agreed to a four-year deal. The offensive tackle was one of two third-round picks by the Steelers this year. Quarterback Mason Rudolph was also drafted in that round and joins first-round safety Terrell Edmunds as unsigned picks in Pittsburgh.

“He is a guy that is going to fit what we are looking for,” Steelers offensive line coach Mike Munchak said, via the team. “He can play right or left tackle. Great size, great strength. I am excited about the opportunity to work with him. I am excited to add someone of his caliber, someone who has a chance to grow, improve.”

Okorafor was born in Nigeria and didn’t play football until high school. He wound up as an Outland Trophy finalist after his final season at Western Michigan.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/05/22/steelers-sign-third-rounder-chukwuma-okorafor/

That's great!

Question ... are these guys negotiating with the FO until the day they sign, is that why they don't sign sooner?

feltdizz
05-23-2018, 05:37 AM
That's great!

Question ... are these guys negotiating with the FO until the day they sign, is that why they don't sign sooner?

I think it’s the old “wait until other picks in your round sign” type of deal.

I didn’t know you could be at OTA’s or rookie camp while unsigned. Isn’t Edmund at OTA’s?

Slapstick
05-23-2018, 05:54 AM
Yeah, you can be at mandatory minicamp and OTAs...just not actual training camp.

SanAntonioSteelerFan
05-23-2018, 07:49 AM
Yeah, you can be at mandatory minicamp and OTAs...just not actual training camp.

Interesting. I though one of the main reasons not to participate until signed is that any injury would then be addressed by the team, rather than the player being on his own.

I guess not!

Slapstick
05-23-2018, 07:57 AM
Interesting. I though one of the main reasons not to participate until signed is that any injury would then be addressed by the team, rather than the player being on his own.

I guess not!

No, I think that, with draft picks at least, the team agrees in good faith to address any injury that takes place during OTAs...

feltdizz
05-23-2018, 08:25 AM
Interesting. I though one of the main reasons not to participate until signed is that any injury would then be addressed by the team, rather than the player being on his own.

I guess not!

Philly just lost a LB due to a collision at OTA's. I think it's an ACL.

Oviedo
05-23-2018, 09:58 AM
Philly just lost a LB due to a collision at OTA's. I think it's an ACL.


The Chargers also just lost TE Hunter Henry to an ACL during OTAs. Out for the season.

feltdizz
05-23-2018, 10:26 AM
The Chargers also just lost TE Hunter Henry to an ACL during OTAs. Out for the season.

whoa.. that's huge

RuthlessBurgher
05-23-2018, 10:42 AM
Steelers agree to contract with Mason Rudolph

Posted by Darin Gantt on May 23, 2018, 10:38 AM EDT

Now that Mason Rudolph and Ben Roethlisberger have broken the ice, they can toast the rookie’s new deal.

According to Jeremy Fowler of ESPN.com, the Steelers have agreed to terms with the third-round quarterback on his four-year deal.

That leaves just first-round pick Terrell Edmunds without a deal, as they breeze through signings league-wide.

Rudolph was one of the most productive quarterbacks in the country at Oklahoma State, and some thought he could be a first-rounder. That didn’t materialize, but the Steelers thought he was too good a value to pass in the third.

Roethlisberger said immediately after the draft he thought they might have used the pick on a player of more immediate impact, especially after trading wide receiver Martavis Bryant. But Roethlisberger said yesterday that we all took that out of context, and that everything was fine, so it must be.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/05/23/steelers-agree-to-contract-with-mason-rudolph/