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BradshawsHairdresser
04-18-2015, 03:06 PM
Who's there?

1. Andrus Peat, T, Stanford
2. Quinten Rollins, CB, Miami OH
3. Marcus Hardison, DE, Arizona State
4. Derron Smith, S, Fresno St.
5. Craig Mager, CB, Texas
6. Zach Zenner, RB, S. Dakota St.
6. Nick Boyle, TE, Delaware
7. Obum Gwacham, Oregon St.

hawaiiansteel
04-18-2015, 03:10 PM
Mock Mock

Who's there?



Mock Who :?:

BradshawsHairdresser
04-18-2015, 03:13 PM
Mock draft, that's who!

Mine was probably too weighted toward players from the western United States. But maybe I'll get lucky and have the Steelers pick one or two of them. Or maybe that wouldn't be lucky for the Steelers. Whatchall think?

hawaiiansteel
04-18-2015, 03:37 PM
Mock draft, that's who!

Mine was probably too weighted toward players from the western United States.

hey, nothing wrong with the western United States...:D

RuthlessBurgher
04-18-2015, 03:46 PM
hey, nothing wrong with the western United States...:D

You are so far west, we can call you east Asia. :)

flippy
04-19-2015, 04:33 PM
Gotta give you an A+ for originality. I never even considered Peat in the first. I think I'd consider later round linemen or UDFAs and let our new Oline coach see what more he can get out of Beachum and Adams for now. I personally like Beachum even though he's a little short for the prototypical LT.

BradshawsHairdresser
04-19-2015, 05:44 PM
Gotta give you an A+ for originality. I never even considered Peat in the first. I think I'd consider later round linemen or UDFAs and let our new Oline coach see what more he can get out of Beachum and Adams for now. I personally like Beachum even though he's a little short for the prototypical LT.

I hear you. I'd like to see them go defense early and often...but the Steelers tend to take the top player on their board in round 1. Peat may be that guy when it's their turn.

For many years, they would would alternate between offense and defense in successive years in round 1...but the last two, they've gone D. So maybe they're due to go with an offensive player.

They may be thinking, too, after investing all that $$$$ in Ben, they should put some more $$$$ into protecting that investment. I like Beachbum, too, but Peat could be their franchise LT for years to come...they could slide Kelvin over to RT, where I think he'd be an upgrade over Gilbert (or eventually, they could put him at G if need be).

flippy
04-19-2015, 07:37 PM
I hear you. I'd like to see them go defense early and often...but the Steelers tend to take the top player on their board in round 1. Peat may be that guy when it's their turn.

For many years, they would would alternate between offense and defense in successive years in round 1...but the last two, they've gone D. So maybe they're due to go with an offensive player.

They may be thinking, too, after investing all that $$$$ in Ben, they should put some more $$$$ into protecting that investment. I like Beachbum, too, but Peat could be their franchise LT for years to come...they could slide Kelvin over to RT, where I think he'd be an upgrade over Gilbert (or eventually, they could put him at G if need be).

I'm all for bucking the trend, but is Peat that much better than a guy like Donovan Smith that might be there in the 2nd or 3rd round? I'd rather see us take some guys with potential later in the draft and let Munchak work his magic on those guys.

Now if the next Orlando Pace or Walter Jones is available at our first pick, I say let's go for it :)

I'm all for trying to find a LG that can pull and a LT with better size, but I don't see those guys with super upside available in the first couple rounds when we pick.

Given that we've got 2 good ball carriers in Bell and Williams that are right handed and probably prefer running right, why not get them a LG that can pull and put some road graders on the right to open some holes? I'm still a little perplexed that our starting OLine from L to R isn't Beachum, DD, Pouncey,Foster, and Adams.

I think Foster and Adams could really blow people off the ball on the right with Pouncey and DD pulling from the left to clean up the garbage and create some monster holes for our backs. And Beachum is a hustle guy that will fight long enough to seal the back edge of the play. In my head, that lineup puts up 300 yards rushing per game with Bell and Williams.

It'll be telling who we pick on the Oline this year.

BradshawsHairdresser
04-19-2015, 08:19 PM
Given that we've got 2 good ball carriers in Bell and Williams that are right handed and probably prefer running right, why not get them a LG that can pull and put some road graders on the right to open some holes? I'm still a little perplexed that our starting OLine from L to R isn't Beachum, DD, Pouncey,Foster, and Adams.

I think Foster and Adams could really blow people off the ball on the right with Pouncey and DD pulling from the left to clean up the garbage and create some monster holes for our backs. And Beachum is a hustle guy that will fight long enough to seal the back edge of the play. In my head, that lineup puts up 300 yards rushing per game with Bell and Williams.



I too would like to see DD and Foster switch sides. I agree that Adams would be a better run-blocking RT than Gilbert, but I think he's not as good at pass pro, and that's why Gilby is the starter. I don't know that we have a true LT on the roster (although Beachum has exceeded expectations)...I'd like to see the Steelers get that LT, and put Beachum on the other side, where I think he would prove to be a better all-around RT than the other two.

BradshawsHairdresser
04-19-2015, 08:30 PM
I'm all for bucking the trend, but is Peat that much better than a guy like Donovan Smith that might be there in the 2nd or 3rd round? I'd rather see us take some guys with potential later in the draft and let Munchak work his magic on those guys.



Don't get me wrong, I love Munch, but how much "magic" has he been able to work with Mike Adams, a guy with a load of "potential"?

I think there may be a fair dropoff from Peat to someone like Donovan Smith...but I'll be the first to admit that I'm not the greatest at evaluating talent coming out of college.

8467thekraken
04-19-2015, 09:44 PM
I too would like to see DD and Foster switch sides. I agree that Adams would be a better run-blocking RT than Gilbert, but I think he's not as good at pass pro, and that's why Gilby is the starter. I don't know that we have a true LT on the roster (although Beachum has exceeded expectations)...I'd like to see the Steelers get that LT, and put Beachum on the other side, where I think he would prove to be a better all-around RT than the other two.

In a BPA scenario, if it came down to having to take an OT at #22, I wouldn't be upset. At least, not with the selection. I would be mad that the draft didn't fall a more advantageous way for the Steelers. Cause while you can't have enough LTs, the O-line is not the highest priority right now. Not at #22. I would have no problem moving Beachum to RT and plugging a Collins or Peat in at LT(when the time was right, of course), though. If this were to happen, the clock would really be ticking for Adams.

That, also, would be fine with me.

The Steelers can add a pass rusher in round 2 and a DB in round 3. Something like that, perhaps.

I just don't see landing a player like Collins or Peat to be a bad thing. Not one bit.

flippy
04-19-2015, 09:55 PM
Don't get me wrong, I love Munch, but how much "magic" has he been able to work with Mike Adams, a guy with a load of "potential"?

I think there may be a fair dropoff from Peat to someone like Donovan Smith...but I'll be the first to admit that I'm not the greatest at evaluating talent coming out of college.

I'm horrible at evaluating talent. I tend to think everyone looks good. So it just takes a little nudge to get me on just about anyone's bandwagon :)

If T is the BPA, I say go for it. We need help everywhere we can get it. I can't wait til draft day.

Chadman
04-19-2015, 10:14 PM
I was talking to my brother over the weekend & we came to the agreement that OT might very well be the 'best value' position for the Steelers at #22. Peat had his issues with Nate Orchard, sure, but he is quite a specimen. A true LT- something we have not had in quite some time- possibly since Wayne Gandy.

Things to keep in mind- Peat is 21 (or is he 20? He's young), he's been a starter for 2 years (or was it 3?), he plays in a big program against big competition, Ben just got signed for 6 years, Beachum is in his last year on his contract.... there are a lot of ticks there, not to mention his superior athletisism & good character....

SS Laser
04-19-2015, 10:54 PM
I was talking to my brother over the weekend & we came to the agreement that OT might very well be the 'best value' position for the Steelers at #22. Peat had his issues with Nate Orchard, sure, but he is quite a specimen. A true LT- something we have not had in quite some time- possibly since Wayne Gandy.

Things to keep in mind- Peat is 21 (or is he 20? He's young), he's been a starter for 2 years (or was it 3?), he plays in a big program against big competition, Ben just got signed for 6 years, Beachum is in his last year on his contract.... there are a lot of ticks there, not to mention his superior athletisism & good character.... If Peat is the pick that would be a interesting O-line with 2 Stanford players and 2 Florida guys. Am I reading now a days that Beachum will play as good or better at guard? Not that many years ago people on this and other forums were set on fire for saying Willie Colon should make the move. :) I like the pick IF Peat is BPA and Beachum can replace Foster hopefully as a upgrade.

Rara
04-19-2015, 11:31 PM
If Peat is the BPA and all corners that are graded in the first (Peters, Waynes, Collins, Johnson) are gone...slide Beachum to left guard and kick out Foster.

K Train
04-20-2015, 10:42 AM
Peat would be a bad first round pick...he just doesnt play like one. His stock needs to be where Jon martins was....second round.

I like Rollins but man everyone on message boards would hate him when hes not a day one starters and rookie of the year candidate

Oviedo
04-20-2015, 10:54 AM
If Peat is the BPA and all corners that are graded in the first (Peters, Waynes, Collins, Johnson) are gone...slide Beachum to left guard and kick out Foster.

That should be the plan when Foster's contract is up anyway. He is just serviceable but not made for the zone run blocking that Munchak is doing now. Plus easier to pay Beachum money as a Guard rather than Left Tackle money

K Train
04-20-2015, 11:01 AM
What makes anyone think Beachum could play guard? It takes everything hes good away and will show everything hes bad at

RuthlessBurgher
04-20-2015, 11:22 AM
What makes anyone think Beachum could play guard? It takes everything hes good away and will show everything hes bad at

Yeah, I want a mauler at guard not a technician. Beachum is the latter, not the former.