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Steelhere10
01-17-2015, 01:11 AM
CFL star Shawn Lemon. He had 13 sacks last year.

Rara
01-17-2015, 01:17 AM
I am surprised they signed him...is he good enough to become a star at linebacker? Our replacement for Worilds?

Steelhere10
01-17-2015, 01:19 AM
He have some nice spend moves and high motor ,he looks decent.

Steelhere10
01-17-2015, 01:20 AM
It's not officially, but they planning on it.

Rara
01-17-2015, 01:33 AM
I thought I read somewhere that CFL players can't sign until February 10th?

Steelhere10
01-17-2015, 01:37 AM
I don't know the rules, but there are several reports out there.

Oviedo
01-17-2015, 08:42 AM
He have...and high motor ,he looks decent.

We have another outside LB who has this too. Maybe between the two we can get a 4 cylinder's worth of pass rush.

7 UP
01-17-2015, 09:26 AM
I like this move. I enjoy watching the CFL when its on. I really think there are more than a few players in that league that could play in the NFL. Im really surprised more teams dont look to the CFL for camp bodies with potential.

Slapstick
01-17-2015, 09:43 AM
Do we need pass rushers? Yes.

Have some CFL players successfully made the transition the NFL? Yes.

Can we afford to leave any stone unturned? No.

Slapstick
01-17-2015, 09:43 AM
We have another outside LB who has this too. Maybe between the two we can get a 4 cylinder's worth of pass rush.

As long as players can stay healthy, I think we will...

Shawn
01-17-2015, 10:39 AM
What I am concerned about with Lemon is he needs a head of steam and even then doesn't seem like a physical player. He might become a guy you bring in as a pass rush specialist on passing downs.

Slapstick
01-17-2015, 10:56 AM
I don't know if he needs a head of steam as much as CFL defenders line up one yard off of the LoS, so they get a head of steam...also, it looks like he typically lines up in the "wide 9"...

Moving to the NFL will be an adjustment for sure...

steelsnis
01-17-2015, 11:25 AM
Can we get a link please? I had seen some reports last week they were working him out but so were several other teams. Is he signing here for real or is this just speculation?

legend of polamalu
01-17-2015, 11:27 AM
Don't forget about this stone....


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1888826/howard-jones

Flasteel
01-17-2015, 12:03 PM
Can we afford to leave any stone unturned? No.

This is the only acceptable response.

It's all about the pressure. This team better scour the earth and be prepared to spend some serious cash to upgrade the pass rush...specifically OLB. Other than maybe Ben's contract, it should be the number 1 personnel priority of the offseaon. We can't ignore the back-end of the defense either, but there is no way we can be content with the current crop of OLBs...regardless of their pedigree or promise.

I don't mind them addressing quality depth with a guy like Lemon, but let's hope that this franchise still has its' sights set on chasing down the best possible free agent pass rusher on the market and putting them in the Black and Gold! :tt2

Steelhere10
01-17-2015, 12:06 PM
Can we get a link please? I had seen some reports last week they were working him out but so were several other teams. Is he signing here for real or is this just speculation?just Google his name and there's several links.

hawaiiansteel
01-17-2015, 02:39 PM
Can we get a link please?

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/01/reports-steelers-set-sign-cfl-deolb-shawn-lemon/

Iron City Inc.
01-17-2015, 03:04 PM
I took a look at some film and here is what jumped out at me:
He showed good use of his hands in countering linemen's hand punch when rushing.
He has a burst and some good closing speed.
Breaks down well and uses his shoulders when tackling and his head stays up.
Has some good pass rush moves. Spin move is okay and has some quicks in his lateral movement giving him some good counters and inside pass rush ability. Can turn the corner but that is mostly from a wide 9. I'll get back to that playing against air scheme.
Shows ability to play with leverage keeping his pad level low. Like that at every level. Sometimes being only 6'2 works to an advantage against tall linemen.
He is more DE then olb. Much more DE. Don't know if he can play backing up. Don't know if he can cover. Not saying he can't he just wasn't in a scheme where he was being asked to do that much.
The quality of the linemen he was going against were no where near NFL line play. Saw him against a bunch of waist benders. The footwork of O linemen at this level is nothing like what he is use to. Again it doesn't mean he can't its just like any rookie stepping in from college where now he will find it more difficult.
43 team would be much better transition for Lemon. Phily wide 9 D where he is a one gap get up the field rusher looks to be where he fits best.
Not a sure thing by any means. Could he compete? Sure.
Since he can flip I would say he could play the roll Moats played in 14 perhaps. He will be an interesting watch at camp if he is signed. Limited look at this guy but he would not be a lock to make our roster or any NFL roster imho.

BradshawsHairdresser
01-17-2015, 03:25 PM
Do we need pass rushers? Yes.

Have some CFL players successfully made the transition the NFL? Yes.

Can we afford to leave any stone unturned? No.


Agreed. You just have to understand that, whenever you don't leave any stone unturned, you may occasionally come up with a Lemon.

Slapstick
01-17-2015, 03:56 PM
Last year, Cordarrow Law signed with the Chargers and ended up getting a sack...I don't think anyone is declaring Lemon the savior, but if we can get one sack and some depth from a guy signed to a futures contract​, isn't that good?

Slapstick
01-17-2015, 03:57 PM
Agreed. You just have to understand that, whenever you don't leave any stone unturned, you may occasionally come up with a Lemon.

Well played.

steelblood
01-17-2015, 04:29 PM
43 team would be much better transition for Lemon. Phily wide 9 D where he is a one gap get up the field rusher looks to be where he fits best.
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No, Philly wouldn't be better. They play a 3-4 now (since Kelly arrived) similar to ours.

Shawn
01-17-2015, 05:15 PM
Last year, Cordarrow Law signed with the Chargers and ended up getting a sack...I don't think anyone is declaring Lemon the savior, but if we can get one sack and some depth from a guy signed to a futures contract​, isn't that good? Sure...we are just discussing not slandering the guy.

Slapstick
01-17-2015, 05:25 PM
Sure...we are just discussing not slandering the guy.

Yeah, but it sure seems like some people are saying that this does not solve the pass rush problem...to which I say, "Duh." I'm all about due diligence. If we've found the next Cameron Wake, fantastic! If we've found a guy who can come in and play some snaps, that's also fine. If he doesn't make the team, oh well...at least the FO did something out of the ordinary...

Iron City Inc.
01-17-2015, 05:30 PM
Sorry a little loose with the term Phily wide 9 just wide 9 would be better. Outside shoulder tech designed to force runs inside and on pass plays allows end to get depth needed to pressure the qb (7,8,9 yds) beyond los. Point was and is he was in a scheme like this. Puts player in good position to rush but when you align outside shoulder a lot of pressure is on inside backers to fill as splits are bigger.
Can he stack and shed? Will need to adapt to the NFL game.

Slapstick
01-17-2015, 05:51 PM
That was what killed the "wide 9" alignment defense in Philly...inside for us, we have Shazier and Timmons (along with Spence and Williams)...I'd be okay taking our chances with that particular alignment on passing downs...

Discipline of Steel
01-17-2015, 06:17 PM
This is the only acceptable response.

It's all about the pressure. This team better scour the earth and be prepared to spend some serious cash to upgrade the pass rush...specifically OLB. Other than maybe Ben's contract, it should be the number 1 personnel priority of the offseaon. We can't ignore the back-end of the defense either, but there is no way we can be content with the current crop of OLBs...regardless of their pedigree or promise.

I don't mind them addressing quality depth with a guy like Lemon, but let's hope that this franchise still has its' sights set on chasing down the best possible free agent pass rusher on the market and putting them in the Black and Gold! :tt2

Suh..............:stirpot

Iron City Inc.
01-17-2015, 06:33 PM
That was what killed the "wide 9" alignment defense in Philly..

You are right they got gashed inside.

Shawn
01-18-2015, 10:19 AM
Yeah, but it sure seems like some people are saying that this does not solve the pass rush problem...to which I say, "Duh." I'm all about due diligence. If we've found the next Cameron Wake, fantastic! If we've found a guy who can come in and play some snaps, that's also fine. If he doesn't make the team, oh well...at least the FO did something out of the ordinary... I think we are saying not to get too excited.

Slapstick
01-18-2015, 01:06 PM
I think we are saying not to get too excited.

Again, "Duh." It's kind of like restrictive laws to head off voter fraud...you are taking precautions against something that isn't really happening...

SS Laser
01-18-2015, 02:34 PM
Suh..............:stirpot
Crazy thinking would be a 3rd & long blitz package with Suh, Heyward, Jones, Lemon(maybe), Timmons, Shazier, Spence wide nine. Give the rushing OLB's a edge over the tackles. And yes I understand I am in fairy land! Still a interesting alignment to try even without Suh. Heyward and McLendon might work well enough.:) Ahh to dream of the defense possibilities. :)

Slapstick
01-18-2015, 03:40 PM
Why no Tuitt?

DukieBoy
01-18-2015, 04:02 PM
Do we need pass rushers? Yes.

Have some CFL players successfully made the transition the NFL? Yes.

Can we afford to leave any stone unturned? No.

Aced your own test there, Slap! ;)
All right on.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
01-18-2015, 04:04 PM
According to a couple of reports, it is going to happen:

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/nfl-pittsburgh-steelers-news/2015/1/17/7570263/steelers-sign-shawn-lemon-roster-transaction-cfl

Here is some info on the guy:

http://cfl.ca/roster/show/id/4047

Looks like he just broke out this past year.

SteelBuckeye
01-18-2015, 04:50 PM
Why no Tuitt?

Maybe he just can't get in Tuitt? (I know "BIG GROAN"). :grin:

SS Laser
01-19-2015, 03:23 AM
Maybe he just can't get in Tuitt? (I know "BIG GROAN"). :grin: I can get in Tuitt. :) Just thought Heyward and McLendon fit better? No real reason why. It is just day dreaming anyway.

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
01-19-2015, 02:43 PM
Official.


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/549762020854497280/t_p7iBqC_normal.jpeg Shawn Lemon @SLemonator 1h 1 hour ago (https://twitter.com/SLemonator/status/557227678835933184) Blessed and thankful to be able to sign with Pittsburgh Steelers!! God is amazing ! #Lemondrops (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Lemondrops?src=hash) https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v1/72x72/1f34b.png

SS Laser
01-19-2015, 02:54 PM
Sweet! I bet they had a nice draft rating for this kid. Keep adding to the OLB's and CB's for 2015!

Slapstick
01-19-2015, 03:17 PM
Well, at least they have three OLBs under contract now: Jarvis Jones, Howard Jones and now, Lemon. I also have no doubt Moats would re-up as well...by all accounts he wants to stay and promoting Butler gives him the stability he was looking for...

SS Laser
01-19-2015, 03:36 PM
Well, at least they have three OLBs under contract now: Jarvis Jones, Howard Jones and now, Lemon. I also have no doubt Moats would re-up as well...by all accounts he wants to stay and promoting Butler gives him the stability he was looking for...
So is this all plans to replace Worilds? No offer at all for him now? JH still on speed dial in case of injury? Does this drop the round when the Steelers could draft a OLB? No FA OLB brought in for a look?

Slapstick
01-19-2015, 03:39 PM
So is this all plans to replace Worilds? No offer at all for him now? JH still on speed dial in case of injury? Does this drop the round when the Steelers could draft a OLB? No FA OLB brought in for a look?

I suppose we'll just have to see what happens...

SS Laser
01-19-2015, 03:42 PM
I suppose we'll just have to see what happens...
Yes we will. But throw in some good old forum speculation is what I was looking for. :)

7 UP
01-19-2015, 03:47 PM
Suh..............:stirpot

Stir the pot all you want, but I am all in on Suh. Break the bank and sign this guy. You can fill the rest of the holes with CFL players, and Im OK with that. With Suh in the middle the center of our defense would be untouchable. No matter who we put at OLB, they will be that much more effective because Suh will command a double team on every passing down. DBs will also look beter because the pocket will collapse much quicker on opposing QBs.

Offseason plans.

Sign Suh
Draft defense
Keep Offense together
Win Super Bowl LOL

Slapstick
01-19-2015, 03:48 PM
If they let Worilds walk, I'd be okay...

It seems to me that the Steelers like to have all of their personnel gaps covered, with a band-aid at least. Then, they can go into the draft and simply pick BPA...if need and BPA work together, then great. Maybe try to sign a Mike Mitchell level free agent OLB...

One thing we can count on is them not breaking the bank for a big name...

Oviedo
01-19-2015, 03:49 PM
Stir the pot all you want, but I am all in on Suh. Break the bank and sign this guy. You can fill the rest of the holes with CFL players, and Im OK with that. With Suh in the middle the center of our defense would be untouchable. No matter who we put at OLB, they will be that much more effective because Suh will command a double team on every passing down. DBs will also look beter because the pocket will collapse much quicker on opposing QBs.

Offseason plans.

Sign Suh
Draft defense
Keep Offense together
Win Super Bowl LOL

Suh's talent would be wasted playing NT in a 3-4

Oviedo
01-19-2015, 03:51 PM
Official.


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/549762020854497280/t_p7iBqC_normal.jpegShawn Lemon@SLemonator 1h 1 hour ago (https://twitter.com/SLemonator/status/557227678835933184) Blessed and thankful to be able to sign with Pittsburgh Steelers!! God is amazing ! #Lemondrops (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Lemondrops?src=hash) https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v1/72x72/1f34b.png

Steelers usually make moves like this to take the pressure off in the draft to take a specific position. If they sign the Breaux kid from Canada who plays CB then 1st round is wide open.

7 UP
01-19-2015, 04:29 PM
Suh's talent would be wasted playing NT in a 3-4

I disagree. Suh would be a 3 down player here.

feltdizz
01-19-2015, 05:27 PM
I disagree. Suh would be a 3 down player here.

yep, he would be a monster

phillyesq
01-19-2015, 06:09 PM
So is this all plans to replace Worilds? No offer at all for him now? JH still on speed dial in case of injury? Does this drop the round when the Steelers could draft a OLB? No FA OLB brought in for a look?

Lemon is a lottery ticket, little more. I'd be shocked if he signs for much over the minimum. I doubt that the Steelers are counting for him on anything. This is a nice gamble with zero risk.

Rara
01-19-2015, 10:14 PM
Steelers usually make moves like this to take the pressure off in the draft to take a specific position. If they sign the Breaux kid from Canada who plays CB then 1st round is wide open.

I'd be fine with that if they sign Breaux...but how will he translate to the NFL, just as I ask about Lemon too. If this happens, I am seeing the Steelers drafting a defensive tackle (Danny Sheldon) or a safety (Cody Prewitt) or outside linebacker (Dante Fowler jr....IF he drops, but doubtful)

birtikidis
01-19-2015, 10:36 PM
So is this all plans to replace Worilds? No offer at all for him now? JH still on speed dial in case of injury? Does this drop the round when the Steelers could draft a OLB? No FA OLB brought in for a look?


who knows what we'regonna do. We won't know until March when free agency starts. we have no idea what kind of converations are taking place with Worilds agent

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
01-19-2015, 11:04 PM
The Steelers look to set up their roster pre-draft so that they are not forced into any one position and are able to go after BPA.

SidSmythe
01-20-2015, 11:09 AM
ITS OFFICIAL

Calgary released him so the Steelers could sign him.
GREAT SIGNING if you ask me. Low Risk, High Reward potential.

phillyesq
01-20-2015, 11:39 AM
The Steelers look to set up their roster pre-draft so that they are not forced into any one position and are able to go after BPA.

They are very good at making sure that they have a credible starting option at each position so that they don't get locked into drafting for need.

ikestops85
01-20-2015, 03:00 PM
Well, at least they have three OLBs under contract now: Jarvis Jones, Howard Jones and now, Lemon. I also have no doubt Moats would re-up as well...by all accounts he wants to stay and promoting Butler gives him the stability he was looking for...

I hope Moats re-ups. We just sent his invitation out to my daughters wedding. I know his wife will come since she is good friends with my daughter but the wedding is July 18th so he will be in training camp. Damn! I would have liked to meet him.

SidSmythe
01-20-2015, 04:33 PM
I hope Moats re-ups. We just sent his invitation out to my daughters wedding. I know his wife will come since she is good friends with my daughter but the wedding is July 18th so he will be in training camp. Damn! I would have liked to meet him.

So you have "inside info" that he'll be in Training Camp come July 18th huh?? huh? Huh? HUH??? ;)

RuthlessBurgher
01-21-2015, 02:44 PM
I hope Moats re-ups. We just sent his invitation out to my daughters wedding. I know his wife will come since she is good friends with my daughter but the wedding is July 18th so he will be in training camp. Damn! I would have liked to meet him.

The scheduled for 2015 isn't out yet, but training camp in Latrobe opened on July 25th last year.

RuthlessBurgher
01-21-2015, 02:45 PM
Official.


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/549762020854497280/t_p7iBqC_normal.jpegShawn Lemon@SLemonator 1h 1 hour ago (https://twitter.com/SLemonator/status/557227678835933184) Blessed and thankful to be able to sign with Pittsburgh Steelers!! God is amazing ! #Lemondrops (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Lemondrops?src=hash) https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v1/72x72/1f34b.png

Based on that hashtag, it sounds like he doesn't only rush the passer...it's also possible that Lemon drops (into coverage). ;)

RuthlessBurgher
01-21-2015, 02:47 PM
Suh..............:stirpot

As long as we are dreaming about signing big-name defensive free agents, I would think that Justin Houston would be a better fit and could be a latter-day Joey Porter for us.

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
01-21-2015, 03:07 PM
Delvin Breaux retweeted his pic of him signing & told him congrats. Lemon's response below. Are we goin Canada Eh?


Shawn Lemon ‏@SLemonator Jan 19 (https://twitter.com/SLemonator/status/557268235230674944) @BreauxShow24 (https://twitter.com/BreauxShow24) thanks bro! We going to be teammates soon lol

Oviedo
01-21-2015, 03:24 PM
Delvin Breaux retweeted his pic of him signing & told him congrats. Lemon's response below. Are we goin Canada Eh?


Shawn Lemon‏@SLemonator Jan 19 (https://twitter.com/SLemonator/status/557268235230674944) @BreauxShow24 (https://twitter.com/BreauxShow24) thanks bro! We going to be teammates soon lol

I would like this to happen

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
01-21-2015, 04:09 PM
Based on that hashtag, it sounds like he doesn't only rush the passer...it's also possible that Lemon drops (into coverage). ;)

Or that he trains with Ike. :D

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
01-26-2015, 03:19 PM
If they sign the Breaux kid from Canada who plays CB then 1st round is wide open.

That won't happen...

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Saints-sign-CFL-corner-Delvin-Breaux.html

New Orleans kid signs with the Saints.

hawaiiansteel
01-26-2015, 03:53 PM
That won't happen...

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Saints-sign-CFL-corner-Delvin-Breaux.html

New Orleans kid signs with the Saints.

good luck in New Orleans, Breaux...:Cheers

SidSmythe
01-26-2015, 05:41 PM
good luck in New Orleans, Breaux...:Cheers

"I can't stop saying Breaux! Breaux!!"

SteelCrazy
01-26-2015, 05:46 PM
Bree ox....Bree ox...I don't get the obsession

hawaiiansteel
01-26-2015, 07:31 PM
"I can't stop saying Breaux! Breaux!!"

says Meathead Rob Leaux...:D

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/553040173047754753/bgQ69kjQ.jpeg

Mr.wizard
01-26-2015, 07:39 PM
Yeah, but it sure seems like some people are saying that this does not solve the pass rush problem...to which I say, "Duh." I'm all about due diligence. If we've found the next Cameron Wake, fantastic! If we've found a guy who can come in and play some snaps, that's also fine. If he doesn't make the team, oh well...at least the FO did something out of the ordinary...

I agree with this, you are taking a very low risk signing this guy, if he doesn't work out you simply cut him.