Dri Archer set to return

[WindyCitySteel]

Not sure about anyone else, but I'm thrilled to see what they do with this kid in the offense. He adds another dimension, similar to what Cobb adds in GB.

They could legit start putting up 30+ a game and become a top offense in the league.

[RuthlessBurgher]

similar to what Cobb adds in GB.

Or Harvin in Seattle. Or Sproles in Philly.

[fordfixer]

Nice.......:tt1

[steelsnis]

Yes! Especially if they keep pounding the running game with Bell and Blount. All of a sudden a quick screen to Archer becomes even more effective.

[Mr.wizard]

This is good news, we could use another weapon on offense, Justin brown and lance moore so far are not giving us a whole lot.

[JoshBroski]

He's so fast I haven't even seen him in the regular season :p

[BradshawsHairdresser]

He's so fast I haven't even seen him in the regular season :p
Let's just hope we're not still hearing that come the end of the season...

[Iron City Inc.]

Archer should help on special teams and on 3rd down. He gets enough touches he'll make some plays. Skill set is very good.

[LordVile]

great news.. excited to see us utilize another weapon for BEN... Offense is becoming the most dynamic in years.

[skyhawk]

Right now after last week the Steelers don't need Archer. It worries me that Haley will have more to fiddle with, and that can never be good.

[Shoe]

Not sure about anyone else, but I'm thrilled to see what they do with this kid in the offense. He adds another dimension, similar to what Cobb adds in GB.

They could legit start putting up 30+ a game and become a top offense in the league.

I thought you were going to say: Dri Archer is set to "pop that thing..."

[JoshBroski]

Right now after last week the Steelers don't need Archer. It worries me that Haley will have more to fiddle with, and that can never be good.

Keep in mind we scored 15 points in 8 quarters (i.e. 2 games) starting from the 2nd half of the Browns game to the start of the 2nd half of the Panthers game. Archer can only help this offense.

[Oviedo]

They need to keep Archer focused on special teams. There is no reason to ask him to do too much and have a recurring ankle problem. Bell and Blount will be fine and use Will Johnson more.

[K Train]

Archer should absolutely be playing some offense the way this screen game is coming together

[Mr.wizard]

I think keeping archer off of offense would be a huge mistake, he can score from anywhere on the field and can be used as a decoy when he doesn't get the ball.

[sick beats]

Right now after last week the Steelers don't need Archer. It worries me that Haley will have more to fiddle with, and that can never be good.

That's a good point; I'd prefer they just focus on executing "regular" rushing plays and not waste time being too tricky and waste downs with Haley nonsense. I want Dri to have some touches, but only to accentuate what is working, not to interrupt it. If we return to being disjointed because Haley wants to play mad scientist, I am going to scream....more than once.

[fezziwig]

As long as we have command of the game with Blount & Bell then throw some Archer in there. They are never going to pound it out with Archer but, he sure could demoralize a defense once our backs and o-line are getting their mojo going.

[K Train]

Halye is very good at getting brown in space even when hes doubled.

Archer will be a welcomed addition to the screen game and in the seams both of which can relaly take off the way the interior oline is playing

[sick beats]

I thought you were going to say: Dri Archer is set to "pop that thing..."

Oh, that's my job. Dri is going to "Pop that Thang." He is also going to step on the Gas Pedal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XJlcbQfHM4

[sick beats]

Halye is very good at getting brown in space even when hes doubled.

Archer will be a welcomed addition to the screen game and in the seams both of which can relaly take off the way the interior oline is playing

I don't think that is Haley pulling that off. The open spaces happen when Brown and Ben work it and free lance. Ben buys a little time and looks for AB and AB always finds the open space given time.

[K Train]

I guess you can think that, but haley has done a great job at play design for the whole offense. While brown is an elite player and one of the most sudden players in the NFL haley gets the ball in his hands consistently despite the double team.

Play calling can be suspect, play design, overall, has been great

[sick beats]

I guess you can think that, but haley has done a great job at play design for the whole offense. While brown is an elite player and one of the most sudden players in the NFL haley gets the ball in his hands consistently despite the double team.

Play calling can be suspect, play design, overall, has been great

Just many of the successful Brown pass plays; many end up being Ben buying time and just finding AB, who finds open spots. In those cases, they are plays that don't get AB open by design, but ad lib in nature. Haley doesn't create those, just the beginning of them.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Halye is very good at getting brown in space even when hes doubled.

Archer will be a welcomed addition to the screen game and in the seams both of which can relaly take off the way the interior oline is playing

Yup. Antonio's been great in the screen game. Le'Veon's been great in the screen game too. If Haley can get Dri open in space in a similar fashion, his skill set could turn what was a 10-15 gain into 6 points from anywhere on the field.

[JoshBroski]

Would you guys rather have Dri on the field, a dangerous player who is capable of taking to the house wherever he is on the field, or Palmer or Spaeth; two guys who are pretty much a waste of space on the roster?

[K Train]

Most teams have a blocking TE...thats what spaeth is, and hes the prototype ZBS blocking TE since hes so long and can use his 6-8 body to move guys. He is not a waste of space, hes just a bad receiver.

Palmer on the other hand....

[hawaiiansteel]

James C Wexell @jimwexell ·

I've tried to fight it but Dri Archer looks just like Chris Rainey.

https://twitter.com/jimwexell

[Slapstick]

Good to know we can make that decision after all the playing time Archer has had in the NFL...

[Ernie]

If I remember right the downfall of Rainey with the black and gold was his off the field conduct. From what I've heard Archer is a top notch person. Much bigger upside then Rainey IMO.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Sure hope they can get Archer involved and contributing in the offense, because otherwise, it's looking like a waste of a 3rd round pick.

[Shoe]

James C Wexell @jimwexell ·

I've tried to fight it but Dri Archer looks just like Chris Rainey.

https://twitter.com/jimwexell

Was that meant to be a compliment?

[Jooser]

Dri almost made Matt Spaeth wiff on that kickoff return. Good investment that guy....

[Snatch98]

Dri almost made Matt Spaeth wiff on that kickoff return. Good investment that guy....

The guy JUST came back from being injured and wasn't thrown to the wolves right away. Archer is going to be fine. We as a fan base are so ridiculously spoiled we expect every draft pick to out perform their draft position immediately. If they get injured they're a bust. Look at bell get banged up last season as a prime example. Now that he's healthy he's a top 5 back in the NFL. I think its time we all really attempt to grasp that the steelers have the talent to do some damage but the team is also a team in transition. These 8-8 seasons are a part of that and as said in another thread if wing just grabs a hold of that punt a little better against tampa we are potentially 4-1.

[Shawn]

The guy JUST came back from being injured and wasn't thrown to the wolves right away. Archer is going to be fine. We as a fan base are so ridiculously spoiled we expect every draft pick to out perform their draft position immediately. If they get injured they're a bust. Look at bell get banged up last season as a prime example. Now that he's healthy he's a top 5 back in the NFL. I think its time we all really attempt to grasp that the steelers have the talent to do some damage but the team is also a team in transition. These 8-8 seasons are a part of that and as said in another thread if wing just grabs a hold of that punt a little better against tampa we are potentially 4-1. You are right about the spoiled part. We are also very impatient. With that being said, I suspected Archer would light up the league from game one. That hasn't come to fruition. Not sure if it was more wishful thinking on my part, or if it's teams knowing Archer is getting the ball when he is on the field.

[bostonsteeler]

Archer has barely begun writing his book. It takes a few games to get your game eyes. Dri will be fine, and should only add to our strengths on O.
We've been good at picking WR weapons in recent times to the point that in the not too distant future we may find the ranks of outstanding WRs to all have a Pittsburgh pedigree. Sanders has been doing exceptionally well in Denver and Wallace hasn't been bad in Miami, all things considered.

The O line, while not yet stellar, will get there, and we finally seem to have hit seam of gold in Bell.

I think Dri and Wheaton will both shine.

[fezziwig]

I think Dri will do best when the team is dominating. I doubt he is a guy that can make things happen on his own. He's the type of player you put in when the defense is back on it's heals.

[K Train]

I think Dri will do best when the team is dominating. I doubt he is a guy that can make things happen on his own. He's the type of player you put in when the defense is back on it's heals.

Not sure thats totally fair....i dont think he neccesary looks NFL ready so far but he can most definitely improve into an impact player, maybe not this year but he might very well end up being a guy we want to get 10 touches a game

[WindyCitySteel]

Looks like he has no shake and bake, just speed. They'll need to get him in wide open space and hope he can outrun people.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Looks like he has no shake and bake, just speed. They'll need to get him in wide open space and hope he can outrun people.

http://mortgagemayhemteam.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/shake-and-bake.jpg

[fezziwig]

Not sure thats totally fair....i dont think he neccesary looks NFL ready so far but he can most definitely improve into an impact player, maybe not this year but he might very well end up being a guy we want to get 10 touches a game

It's not a cut on Dri but he's not this giant locomotive that is going to run guys over. I see him looking like the tail lights like a fast car once our team starts to out muscle/play and have the defenses out of sorts. Tomlin likes these type of players that can deflate a team with their getty up and go. Then again, who doesn't He had a specialist his first or second season for returns, he had Rainy and now Dri... I'm sure he wants all efforts for him to be that type of breaking stuff open once he gets in space.

[Mr.wizard]

Gotta give Dri some time he has barley played and really hasn't had a lot of opportunities. He is electric with the ball in his hands and as the season progresses you will se him get more involved.

[Jooser]

I'll be happy when he returns a kick at least to the 20. LOL. I was making a joke about him running into Spaeth.....but, eh whatever....

[sick beats]

Remember when I griped about the Dri pick when they drafted him? I said backs that little almost always can't take the physical nature of the NFL. Then, I researched him more and found the vids, and changed my mind, thinking he was very special and perfect for the Haley offense. I said he wasn't just blazing fast, but that he had vision, instincts and was super strong for his size (20 reps of 225 while weighing 170.) I was ripped on for changing my mind on him, but that's often what you do when you are presented with more info. Well, now I fear I was right in my original stance. Not only has he been hurt most of the year, but he appears very tentative with the ball, as if he knows he is likely to get hurt. I hope my original opinion was the wrong one, but evidence suggests it may not be. Time will tell.

[hawaiiansteel]

jerry: Is archer still hurt or is he another poor draft choice?

Ed Bouchette: He played, I believe, four snaps. No, I don't think he's still hurt. I won't call him another poor draft choice, but it does make you wonder why they used a third-rounder on him.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/s...s/201410070200

[fezziwig]

I thought someone said Dri was injured often in college too ? Maybe it's another player we have I'm thinking about ?

[sick beats]

I thought someone said Dri was injured often in college too ? Maybe it's another player we have I'm thinking about ?

He was hurt a few times in college.

[hawaiiansteel]

Archer: 'It’s a lot faster game'

Teresa Varley
Steelers.com

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Dri Archer might be one of the fastest players on the field, but that doesn't help with the adjustment to the speed of the NFL game.

Not much down time: Dri Archer is taking a much needed break after his rookie season, a year when he learned what it takes and what is required to play in the NFL. But it won’t be long before he is back at it, working to get ready for the offseason program that starts up again in April.

Archer plans on attacking the weight room this offseason, getting bigger to handle the punishing blows you take in the NFL and doing everything he can to contribute more on offense and special teams in 2015.

“I am going to work this offseason and get ready for next year to do the most I can,” said Archer. “I want to help the team out the best way possible and in as many ways as I can.”

Lean on me: Archer leaned heavily on second-year back Le’Veon Bell during the season, from asking him for tips to just watching what he did on a daily basis to help with his adjustment to the league. One of the biggest things he learned from Bell was how to be a professional, which includes taking care of your body to handle a much longer NFL season.

“Somebody like Le’Veon does it every single day,” said Archer. “I have been picking it up since camp and it’s helpful watching him.

“He is like a big brother. He is smart. Even though it’s only his second year, he is one of the veteran guys. He knows football, he knows his reads, and he knows how to study film. He helps me and Josh (Harris) out in that area.”

Speed matters: Archer showed that speed counts when he turned heads at the 2014 scouting combine with a 40-yard dash time of 4.26. One thing he learned in the NFL though was when it comes to the speed of the game it’s much faster than it was in college.

“It’s a lot faster game,” said Archer. “Everyone knows what they are doing, everyone knows their job and how to do it and they do it at full speed.

“As we grow, the speed of the game always changes, from Pop Warner to little league to high school. It always evolves to the next level.”

Long road: You hear it at the end of every season from rookies, how much longer the season is. They were used to playing 12 games in college, but for this year’s Steelers rookies it was a 21 game season. It’s a big difference and one that can take a toll if you don’t prepare properly.

“It’s a long season coming from college,” said Archer. “You have to know how to take care of your body, how to handle injuries, know when to go, when not to go.

“I learned about time management and taking care of my body. That is a big key when you get to this level. In college you keep going, but in pros you need to know when to rehab and stuff.”

http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/Archer-It’s-a-lot-faster-game/215e6504-fc5a-4594-a1ad-844c11f68e51

[phillyesq]

If nothing else, at least Archer has the right attitude.

[MCHammer]

jerry: Is archer still hurt or is he another poor draft choice?

Ed Bouchette: He played, I believe, four snaps. No, I don't think he's still hurt. I won't call him another poor draft choice, but it does make you wonder why they used a third-rounder on him.


Archer isn't the problem. Drafting a gimmick player in the 3rd round is. It was, is and ever shall be an irresponsible and silly draft pick by a team that had enough holes it couldn't afford to be cute. Horrible pick and it's not Archer's fault.

[Slapstick]

Unless, you know, he grows as a player and becomes better...

[MCHammer]

Oh yeah. I forgot. It's only a bad pick, if it doesn't work out. They probably should have taken him in the 1st round. Hopefully, next year we can stack up on more gimmick players in the early rounds. Nothing worse than staring at the board in the 5th round and realizing all the good gimmick players are gone.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Unless, you know, he grows as a player and becomes better...

(Insert joke about him likely being as big as he's going to get...:D)

[Slapstick]

Oh yeah. I forgot. It's only a bad pick, if it doesn't work out.

You could have stopped right there...that would have made sense. The other stuff? You were rambling a bit...

[phillyesq]

Oh yeah. I forgot. It's only a bad pick, if it doesn't work out. They probably should have taken him in the 1st round. Hopefully, next year we can stack up on more gimmick players in the early rounds. Nothing worse than staring at the board in the 5th round and realizing all the good gimmick players are gone.

At least they didn't draft him in the top 10 like the Dolphins with Ted Ginn.

[Shawn]

The game so far has proven too big for him. BUT...I'm not sure that giving the guy some more time isn't a prudent measure before assessing his skill set for this level. Personally, I'm not ready to call the guy a bust.

[SidSmythe]

The game so far has proven too big for him. BUT...I'm not sure that giving the guy some more time isn't a prudent measure before assessing his skill set for this level. Personally, I'm not ready to call the guy a bust.

Its impossible for a 1st yr player to be a bust. maybe an underachiever but a "bust"?? How ignorant.

I do think the 3rd round was too high for him but I can see HALEY wanting his speed for his OFFENSE so he took a shot. Ya win some, ya lose some.
So lets say Bryant was the pick in the 3rd and Archer was the pick in the 4th?? I wouldn't see much complaint so it's really a non issue.

[MCHammer]

It's an issue to me. This team has a lot of holes and can't afford to waste 3rd round picks on gimmick players. The Archer pick was questionable at the time, to say the least. I considered it bad at the time, but we all hope for the best. Archer was unable to contribute in any meaningful way this year. That was not the expectation. At the very least, he was supposed to field some punt and kick returns, which under the circumstances should not have justified a 3rd round pick. That he could not even do that makes this a pretty clear case.

[Slapstick]

Mmm'kay...

Well, since he's under contract for the next few seasons, I suppose we'll just have to hope for the best...

[fezziwig]

It's an issue to me. This team has a lot of holes and can't afford to waste 3rd round picks on gimmick players. The Archer pick was questionable at the time, to say the least. I considered it bad at the time, but we all hope for the best. Archer was unable to contribute in any meaningful way this year. That was not the expectation. At the very least, he was supposed to field some punt and kick returns, which under the circumstances should not have justified a 3rd round pick. That he could not even do that makes this a pretty clear case.


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[Shawn]

Personally, I would like to see Dri used mainly as a WR.

[papillon]

IMO, the Steelers will find a use for him and aren't going to give up on him just yet, there's actually no reason to give up. He may have been drafted too high, but I think that Haley will find a way to use him and have him be productive. He has already said that he wasn't prepared for the rigors of an NFL season and that he's already in weight room adding muscle and training. He has the right attitude, the Steelers will see a completely different player come August, IMO.

Just because he MAY have been drafted too high isn't a reason to give up on him.

Pappy

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

I didn't love the pick, but I didn't mind the idea of taking a player like him. If he works out, he adds a dimension to the team that is currently not there. That could happen both on offense and ST. We haven't seen it yet, but if potential ever is fulfilled then it is just one more thing for the opposition to plan for.

[RuthlessBurgher]

I wasn't thrilled with the pick originally because I really wanted them to draft Martavis Bryant at the end of round 3. However, when we were still able to get Bryant in the middle of round 4, I was suddenly much happier with the earlier Archer pick.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

He was a culmination of my problem with this draft. They valued speed over talent for many of the picks... From Shaz over Moseley to Dri over DeAnthony Thomas, I was annoyed with the picks. If you take Dri, you have to let him return punts and kickoffs - if for no other reason than he is just FAST and you took him in the 3rd.

[Ghost]

He was a culmination of my problem with this draft. They valued speed over talent for many of the picks... From Shaz over Moseley to Dri over DeAnthony Thomas, I was annoyed with the picks. If you take Dri, you have to let him return punts and kickoffs - if for no other reason than he is just FAST and you took him in the 3rd.

Agree with you 100%. Both Tomlin and Colbert specifically called out his special team prowess as the reason for the 3rd round. But he was so terrible at returning that Blount was used in kick-offs and you risked losing you number 1 offensive weapon on punt returns. It's an absurdity. There's no BS 'he doesn't know the play book' situation here. Stand in the end zone, catch ball, run forward as fast as possible. If he's an athlete worthy of a 3rd pick then this is a no brainer.

Whatever held him back from not even being able to handle a kick-off best be straightened out this off season or he needs to be cut before the end of pre-season next fall.

[hawaiiansteel]

Steelers notebook: Haley sees role for Archer

By Mark Kaboly
Wednesday, March 18, 2015

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Steelers offensive coordinator Todd Haley hasn't given up on Dri Archer quite yet — as a running back or a kick returner.

Haley said Wednesday there needs to be patience with the development of the Steelers' 2014 third-round draft pick out of Kent State and that the Steelers plan to find a specific role to highlight's Archer's best aspect: his 4.2 speed.

“The important thing is that we do have a role for him if he is going to have a helmet on Sundays and he gets his five and six touches a game,” Haley said Wednesday during the Steelers Nation Unite “Weekly Huddle” fan forum session.

“Any one of those plays he has the chance to take it to the house with that speed. Let's just have a little patience and let him continue to develop, and we will definitely have a plan to get him touches throughout the season.”

Archer managed only 10 rushes and seven receptions in 12 games as a rookie.

He missed two games with an ankle injury and two late in the year because of a coach's decision. Archer also lost his starting job as a kick returner after Week 7.

Haley said Archer playing in a mid-major conference like the MAC put him at a disadvantage.

“When you get guys like that, sometimes the transition time is a little longer than we all would like, himself included,” Haley said.

Haley also said during the 30-minute forum that he expects Martavis Bryant to push Markus Wheaton for the No. 2 receiver spot behind Antonio Brown.

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/8000167-74/haley-steelers-archer#ixzz3UtnyRKOJ

[BradshawsHairdresser]

The Steelers' offensive coordinator also seemed to place some of Archer's lack of development on his quarterback. "If only we could've gotten Ben to look Dri's way," Haley said, "he probably would have made the all-rookie team. And if 7 will just make it a point to get the ball to him this year, you never know, he might soon be pushing Bell for a starting spot."

;)

[Slapstick]

I'm sure Haley said that behind closed doors, during film review...

No need for him to call out 7 in public!;)

[Discipline of Steel]

The Steelers' offensive coordinator also seemed to place some of Archer's lack of development on his quarterback. "If only we could've gotten Ben to look Dri's way," Haley said, "he probably would have made the all-rookie team. And if 7 will just make it a point to get the ball to him this year, you never know, he might soon be pushing Bell for a starting spot."

;)

What!?! "...pushing Bell for a starting spot." Someone must have caught Haley at the bar after several shots of scotch.

[squidkid]

The Steelers' offensive coordinator also seemed to place some of Archer's lack of development on his quarterback. "If only we could've gotten Ben to look Dri's way," Haley said, "he probably would have made the all-rookie team. And if 7 will just make it a point to get the ball to him this year, you never know, he might soon be pushing Bell for a starting spot."

;)


obviously we gave the wrong guy the 100 million dollar contract.

[7 UP]

I really will not be shocked at all if Archer is cut during training camp.

[steelz09]

I hated the pick and still do.

I don't care how fast the guy is... in the NFL, you have to be able to break a tackle. Archer falls down if a defender sneezes in his general vicinity.

[feltdizz]

I really will not be shocked at all if Archer is cut during training camp.

Go home rodger!

[7 UP]

Go home rodger!

Remember where you heard it when it happens. I see no way Archer makes this roster.

Not good enough to be our 5th WR. Not good enough to be our 3rd RB. Cant contribute as a return guy. Throw in the fact that he will be injured before the middle of preseason, and I really dont see how Dri fits in.

[squidkid]

I really will not be shocked at all if Archer is cut during training camp.


me neither, but with the cheapness of this team and the holes on it, i bet he doesnt get cut.

[feltdizz]

Remember where you heard it when it happens. I see no way Archer makes this roster.

Not good enough to be our 5th WR. Not good enough to be our 3rd RB. Cant contribute as a return guy. Throw in the fact that he will be injured before the middle of preseason, and I really dont see how Dri fits in.

I will definitely give you credit if it happens but far too often these predictions are based on a fans hopes and dreams.

our FO isnt going to Dri.

[feltdizz]

me neither, but with the cheapness of this team and the holes on it, i bet he doesnt get cut.

seems like the cheapness of the team and the holes would make him expendable.

If he serves no purpose (I disagree), then cut him and use his spot to fill another need.

Haley talking ab o ut Archer pretty much means he is in our plans for next year. You guys need to be honest about our FO ans how it operates.

We arent cheap because we are always up against the cap and we are patient with our player development.

Dri would need to get in trouble off the field to be cut this year.

[squidkid]

I will definitely give you credit if it happens but far too often these predictions are based on a fans hopes and dreams.

our FO isnt going to Dri.


like how great he was gonna be and how opposing DC's are gonna have to game plan against him?

[Slapstick]

seems like the cheapness of the team and the holes would make him expendable.

If he serves no purpose (I disagree), then cut him and use his spot to fill another need.

Haley talking ab o ut Archer pretty much means he is in our plans for next year. You guys need to be honest about our FO ans how it operates.

We arent cheap because we are always up against the cap and we are patient with our player development.

Dri would need to get in trouble off the field to be cut this year.

Archer's only sins were these:

1) Not being 6' and 215lbs

2) Not immediately being All-Pro

People never give up their hate of certain draft picks...certain people still can't stand the Timmons pick...just when a player gets voted All-Pro, you are far less vocal about it...

[hawaiiansteel]

Remember where you heard it when it happens. I see no way Archer makes this roster.

Not good enough to be our 5th WR. Not good enough to be our 3rd RB. Cant contribute as a return guy. Throw in the fact that he will be injured before the middle of preseason, and I really dont see how Dri fits in.

remember where you heard it when it happens. I see no way Archer doesn't make this roster...

[feltdizz]

like how great he was gonna be and how opposing DC's are gonna have to game plan against him?

I know this sounds crazy but most Steeler fans want their team and their new draft picks to do well.

[feltdizz]

remember where you heard it when it happens. I see no way Archer doesn't make this roster...

Now THIS is a bold prediction

[hawaiiansteel]

Now THIS is a bold prediction

remember, you heard it here first...;)

[Mr.wizard]

No way they cut archer, not after one season. Archer just needs to adjust to the speed of the nfl, you will see a drastic improvement in his running this year.

[Slapstick]

No way they cut archer, not after one season. Archer just needs to adjust to the speed of the nfl, you will see a drastic improvement in his running this year.

No! He needs to be immediately successful or he is a bust!! Other draft picks can be allowed to develop, but not Archer because some people didn't like the pick! Cut him!!!

[Mr.wizard]

No! He needs to be immediately successful or he is a bust!! Other draft picks can be allowed to develop, but not Archer because some people didn't like the pick! Cut him!!!

Ya, Steeler fans can be very impatient and seem to have a dislike for guys who main talent is speed. I don't think fans realize what they got with archer, if archer can develop his vision like the Steelers think he will. If Archers vision develops you get an explosive returner and you get a guy who will be a weapon for your offense that you can get matched up with safeties and linebackers. If he doesn't develop, he is cheap enough to cut, it's really a no lose position for the Steelers.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

I think that Archer comes to camp pencilled in on the roster. I can see a situation where he falls flat on his face and does not make it. It would also require a player like Josh Harris to step up big in camp and force his way onto the roster.

Archer dressed for 12 games last season. What is the requirement to keep him on the PS? Would he be eligible?

[Mr.wizard]

I think that Archer comes to camp pencilled in on the roster. I can see a situation where he falls flat on his face and does not make it. It would also require a player like Josh Harris to step up big in camp and force his way onto the roster.

Archer dressed for 12 games last season. What is the requirement to keep him on the PS? Would he be eligible?

Unless harris can figure out how to play in the slot and return kicks I don't see him beating out Dri. With harris he would never see the field unless bell and Williams both went down. So you keep harris on the practice squad and only bring him up in an emergency, with Dri, he is going to be involved every week even though he is listed 3rb on the depth chart.

[7 UP]

This isnt about liking Dri or not liking Dri. This isnt about whether or not you liked the pick. Look at this for a minute from a coaching perspective. What role on your roster will Dri Archer fill?

He is not a backup running back. You wanna know how I know? Because when Bell went down we opted to bring a guy in off the street as opposed to using Dri.
He was drafted to be a stellar return guy. Mega-Fail there.
He cant be a steady 3rd down back because he cant pick up the blitz.

His best role on this team may be as a 5th WR. He has soft hands for a back and runs good routes for a back. As a back his receiving skills are pretty good. But are those skills good enough to be a full time 5th wideout.

It seems to me Dri's upside is as a gimmick player, that hopefully will take a shovel pass the distance at some point during the season. If thats all Dri has to offer, I dont see how we can afford to waste a roster spot for that. Im not sure I see how last years 3rd round pick is guaranteed a spot on this roster.

[Jigawatts]

No way they cut archer, not after one season. Archer just needs to adjust to the speed of the nfl, you will see a drastic improvement in his running this year.

The second fastest 40 time ever recorded at the combine and he needs to adjust to the speed of the NFL? I say the NFL needs to adjust to his speed.:D

[SteelerOfDeVille]

This isnt about liking Dri or not liking Dri. This isnt about whether or not you liked the pick. Look at this for a minute from a coaching perspective. What role on your roster will Dri Archer fill?

He is not a backup running back. You wanna know how I know? Because when Bell went down we opted to bring a guy in off the street as opposed to using Dri.
He was drafted to be a stellar return guy. Mega-Fail there.
He cant be a steady 3rd down back because he cant pick up the blitz.

His best role on this team may be as a 5th WR. He has soft hands for a back and runs good routes for a back. As a back his receiving skills are pretty good. But are those skills good enough to be a full time 5th wideout.

It seems to me Dri's upside is as a gimmick player, that hopefully will take a shovel pass the distance at some point during the season. If thats all Dri has to offer, I dont see how we can afford to waste a roster spot for that. Im not sure I see how last years 3rd round pick is guaranteed a spot on this roster.
nope. his best role on the team is to become Devin Hester or Dante Hall - return specialist. I think that's what they thought they had.... he'll be given another look there.

[7 UP]

nope. his best role on the team is to become Devin Hester or Dante Hall - return specialist. I think that's what they thought they had.... he'll be given another look there.

Thats one area I hope he has improved in. Its not like he dosent have the ability to be a good return guy. He just made horrible decisions that put us in bad field position. Hopefully with a year under his belt thats correctable.

[feltdizz]

The second fastest 40 time ever recorded at the combine and he needs to adjust to the speed of the NFL? I say the NFL needs to adjust to his speed.:D

Everytime we trotted him on the field the other team adjusted and was all over the obvious swing passes.

[Ghost]

This isnt about liking Dri or not liking Dri. This isnt about whether or not you liked the pick. Look at this for a minute from a coaching perspective. What role on your roster will Dri Archer fill?

He is not a backup running back. You wanna know how I know? Because when Bell went down we opted to bring a guy in off the street as opposed to using Dri.
He was drafted to be a stellar return guy. Mega-Fail there.
He cant be a steady 3rd down back because he cant pick up the blitz.

His best role on this team may be as a 5th WR. He has soft hands for a back and runs good routes for a back. As a back his receiving skills are pretty good. But are those skills good enough to be a full time 5th wideout.

It seems to me Dri's upside is as a gimmick player, that hopefully will take a shovel pass the distance at some point during the season. If thats all Dri has to offer, I dont see how we can afford to waste a roster spot for that. Im not sure I see how last years 3rd round pick is guaranteed a spot on this roster.

This is a good objective assesment. The GM and head coach specifically called out his special teams play as the reason for a 3rd selection and he was beyond terrible. So bad in fact, a 250 + lb back was a better option. And then he was a healthy scratch for multiple games.

I'd love for him to contribute. Love it. That means he's helping the Steelers win. But I also think that if he can't at least catch a kick off and run forward then he is wasting a much needed roster spot. Can't be a returner at a minimum, cut him. Sometimes picks don't work out.

[hawaiiansteel]

Sometimes picks don't work out.

true, but I highly doubt the Steelers cut Archer this soon. give Todd Haley another season to try to figure out how to properly use Archer in the offense...

[Slapstick]

Sometimes picks don't work out...but, it often takes more than a single season to make an informed decision.

[K Train]

Sometimes picks don't work out...but, it often takes more than a single season to make an informed decision.
You can keep saying it, it can keep happening, and people will keep not believing it

[squidkid]

Sometimes picks don't work out...but, it often takes more than a single season to make an informed decision.


yet those same players are proclaimed draft day steals, instant starters and impact players that opposing DC will have to spend the week game planning against right after they get drafted...........of course, that's an informed statement

[feltdizz]

You can keep saying it, it can keep happening, and people will keep not believing it

like fans who get angry at our FO on the first day of FA signing EVERY FREAKING YEAR.

[feltdizz]

yet those same players are proclaimed draft day steals, instant starters and impact players that opposing DC will have to spend the week game planning against right after they get drafted...........of course, that's an informed statement

You can keep saying it, it can keep happening, and people will keep not believing you

[phillyesq]

Everytime we trotted him on the field the other team adjusted and was all over the obvious swing passes.

Except for the Ravens playoff game, where he was running wide open and didn't get looks.

Haley likes these gadget type guys - McCluster in KC, Rainey, and now Dri. I think Dri will get at least a second season to prove his worth, unless he is an unmitigated disaster in camp this year.

[squidkid]

You can keep saying it, it can keep happening, and people will keep not believing you


of course they wont believe me. why would they admit that they made those predictions when the player didnt fulfill their draft day expectations?
its easier to lie and say they never made such claims or say that fans need to give the player a few years to pan out.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Everytime we trotted him on the field the other team adjusted and was all over the obvious swing passes.
that's because the OC is CO (captain obvious) and only brought him on the field when they planned to use him...

[Slapstick]

Please, find an instance on this board where Dri Archer was called an instant starter at RB...

[K Train]

of course they wont believe me. why would they admit that they made those predictions when the player didnt fulfill their draft day expectations?
its easier to lie and say they never made such claims or say that fans need to give the player a few years to pan out.

Ive never seen you post anything positive ever...id ask if you enjoyed the steelers or football in general but I think the better question is do you enjoy anything at all?

Dreary, sky is falling, everything is the worst, woe is me people like you call themselves realists but i just call you a pain in the ass to talk to

[squidkid]

Please, find an instance on this board where Dri Archer was called an instant starter at RB...


show me where i said rb?

[squidkid]

Ive never seen you post anything positive ever...id ask if you enjoyed the steelers or football in general but I think the better question is do you enjoy anything at all?

Dreary, sky is falling, everything is the worst, woe is me people like you call themselves realists but i just call you a pain in the ass to talk to


i enjoy laughing at 'fans' like you.
does that count?

[K Train]

i enjoy laughing at 'fans' like you.
does that count?

Im not a rah rah fan at all that thinks everything they do is a pure golden move, but you are on the complete other end of the spectrum than that.

Everything they do is the wrong move, they all suck, they shouldn't even play the game

[squidkid]

Im not a rah rah fan at all that thinks everything they do is a pure golden move, but you are on the complete other end of the spectrum than that.

Everything they do is the wrong move, they all suck, they shouldn't even play the game


well, i guess im one of the few that try to offset the many that think every move is great and the steelers can do no wrong.
its a heavy cross to bear.

[RuthlessBurgher]

well, i guess im one of the few that try to offset the many that think every move is great and the steelers can do no wrong.
its a heavy cross to bear.

http://static.tumblr.com/dvooeyi/cRilfuha3/tumblr_lftf93xipv1qg42mno1_500.png

[Ghost]

This is from last week regarding Archer:

“The important thing is that we do have a role for him if he is going to have a helmet on Sundays and he gets his five and six touches a game,” Haley said. “Any one of those plays he has the chance to take it to the house with that speed. Let’s just have a little patience and let him continue to develop and we will definitely have a plan to get him touches throughout the season.”

[Slapstick]

well, i guess im one of the few that try to offset the many that think every move is great and the steelers can do no wrong.
its a heavy cross to bear.

We all feel terrible for you, bearing the cross that you decided to pick up for yourself that nobody ever asked you to...

[Slapstick]

Except for the Ravens playoff game, where he was running wide open and didn't get looks.


Shhh! We're not allowed to mention this!!

[RuthlessBurgher]

We all feel terrible for you, bearing the cross that you decided to pick up for yourself that nobody ever asked you to...

I know I always find myself wishing there were more posters on here to disagree with everything our team does and ridicule any fans who actually, you know, support the team.

At times I think that tiproast, the diehard Pats fan, actually likes the Steelers more than squidkid does. He certainly shows more respect and praise for our players, coaches, front office, and ownership.

[K Train]

I know I always find myself wishing there were more posters on here to disagree with everything our team does and ridicule any fans who actually, you know, support the team.

At times I think that tiproast, the diehard Pats fan, actually likes the Steelers more than squidkid does. He certainly shows more respect and praise for our players, coaches, front office, and ownership.
Its not even about praise, neutral would even be better than constant doom and gloom about a team that made the playoffs when widely predicted to fall off the map and be in the division basement and came out 2nd in the NFL in total offense lol

[Oviedo]

I know I always find myself wishing there were more posters on here to disagree with everything our team does and ridicule any fans who actually, you know, support the team.

At times I think that tiproast, the diehard Pats fan, actually likes the Steelers more than squidkid does. He certainly shows more respect and praise for our players, coaches, front office, and ownership.

Well said!!!!

[7 UP]

I know I always find myself wishing there were more posters on here to disagree with everything our team does and ridicule any fans who actually, you know, support the team.

At times I think that tiproast, the diehard Pats fan, actually likes the Steelers more than squidkid does. He certainly shows more respect and praise for our players, coaches, front office, and ownership.

Question for all. Why does pointing anything negative out about the Steelers automatically mean you dont support the team? I point out negatives, because I want a better roster, so the Steelers can win games.

As for Dri, I will support him 100% if can find a way to add something. Im rooting for him to do well. Based off what I have seen so far I just dont see it happening. It would have been nice to have a legit 3rd running back on the roster once Bell went down and Blount was gone. But instead we were stuck with an undersized project player who didnt contribute. The Steelers had to scramble around signing guys off the street to fill that role. Would that game had gone differently if we had drafted Terrance West, or Isaah Crowell, or Devonte Freeman? Quite possibly.

[K Train]

Question for all. Why does pointing anything negative out about the Steelers automatically mean you dont support the team? I point out negatives, because I want a better roster, so the Steelers can win games. .

That is a non issue...its saying that everything they do or dont do is a negative no matter. The team has plenty of negatives, but every single post that guy has is bitching about something

[Shawn]

Personally, I'm all for calling a spade a spade. I think it's just as ingenuous to always rah rah, never have any critical thinking when it comes to our team. While I tend to err on the side of cautious optimism, I will also critique where appropriate. That is usually met with stern opposition. So, its a discussion board...and I'm ok with critical posters as long as they have some balance. The problem lies when it's always critical and condescending. At that point, I mark them up as a troll and believe they should be removed from the community.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Why does pointing anything negative out about the Steelers automatically mean you dont support the team.

Pointing anything negative out doesn't automatically mean you don't support the team.

Pointing out everything negative about the team all the time, from its players, its coaches, its front office, its ownership, its fans, etc. means you don't support the team.

[Shawn]

That is a non issue...its saying that everything they do or dont do is a negative no matter. The team has plenty of negatives, but every single post that guy has is bitching about something Quoted for truth.

[RuthlessBurgher]

The problem lies when it's always critical and condescending.

Shawn is a big fat doodiehead. Neener neener ha ha.

[Oviedo]

Shawn is a big fat doodiehead. Neener neener ha ha.
Duh...who doesn't know that;)

[feltdizz]

of course they wont believe me. why would they admit that they made those predictions when the player didnt fulfill their draft day expectations?
its easier to lie and say they never made such claims or say that fans need to give the player a few years to pan out.

For 2 years you have been talking this nonsense.

Who the hell are THEY? Why wouldn't they believe you? Who are you talking about? Are they on here? Half of the people on here are critical of every draft pick that wasn't their own.

Are you talking about fans in your city/town? You can't live in Pittsburgh because 50% of the fans in Pittsburgh are negative and always quick to criticize the team.

Why not address those who said these things on here instead of throwing out these phantom quotes that NO ONE has ever been quoted saying?

[feltdizz]

show me where i said rb?

show us where someone said all the draft picks would be instant stars?

You were the main one criticizing draft picks last year while having 2 or 3 of them in your mock.

You are so pessimistic you didn't even realize you were throwing shade on yourself last year.

[feltdizz]

Question for all. Why does pointing anything negative out about the Steelers automatically mean you dont support the team? I point out negatives, because I want a better roster, so the Steelers can win games.

As for Dri, I will support him 100% if can find a way to add something. Im rooting for him to do well. Based off what I have seen so far I just dont see it happening. It would have been nice to have a legit 3rd running back on the roster once Bell went down and Blount was gone. But instead we were stuck with an undersized project player who didnt contribute. The Steelers had to scramble around signing guys off the street to fill that role. Would that game had gone differently if we had drafted Terrance West, or Isaah Crowell, or Devonte Freeman? Quite possibly.

I think kicking BLount off the team is the reason we had to scramble for a RB. Dri was never drafted to be an every down back.

[squidkid]

For 2 years you have been talking this nonsense.

Who the hell are THEY? Why wouldn't they believe you? Who are you talking about? Are they on here? Half of the people on here are critical of every draft pick that wasn't their own.

Are you talking about fans in your city/town? You can't live in Pittsburgh because 50% of the fans in Pittsburgh are negative and always quick to criticize the team.

Why not address those who said these things on here instead of throwing out these phantom quotes that NO ONE has ever been quoted saying?

ive adrressed it with them. they ran and hid

[7 UP]

I think kicking BLount off the team is the reason we had to scramble for a RB. Dri was never drafted to be an every down back.

Your proving my point for me. If Archer is not going to be an every down back than wouldnt you rather have a guy who is? Keeping a roster spot open for a fringe player hurts the team.

[feltdizz]

Your proving my point for me. If Archer is not going to be an every down back than wouldnt you rather have a guy who is? Keeping a roster spot open for a fringe player hurts the team.

umm... no, I'm proving the point that our coaches and FO want 2 RB's and Dri as a hybrid.

You keep talking like YOU run this team and what YOU want them to do. LOL...

[feltdizz]

ive adrressed it with them. they ran and hid

Oh great. the canned "run and hide" accusation.

You are coming off real short bus right now.

[7 UP]

umm... no, I'm proving the point that our coaches and FO want 2 RB's and Dri as a hybrid.

You keep talking like YOU run this team and what YOU want them to do. LOL...

At what point did I claim to run the team? We will all find out what the coaches and FO want after the pre-season.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Is it possible that you both have elements of accuracy in your posts, but, neither side is 100%?

1. Archer was never drafted to be an every down back. Having said that, he doesn't have to BECOME and every down back.
2. Archer was drafted because of his speed. Period. (The problem, IMO, is it's straight line speed, and he isn't elusive - but, i digress).
3. It IS possible (but, unlikely) that he's cut after camp. This is true for any unproven player - but, less likely for last year's 3rd round selection who runs in the 4.2's

So, let me clarify - Because of his speed, he was targeted to be a Dexter McCluster/Dante Hall - 3rd down/change of pace/return specialist. That's it. A guy who if allowed open field on a given play can score and steal you 4-5 TDs a year, in addition to good field position a few more times.

There are 2 problems Dri has run into:
1. Our primary RB, Bell, is pretty dang good out of the backfield as a pass catcher; and he's also big enough to handle blocking responsibilities, if a blitz is coming. It's hard to take that guy out of the game on a critical 3rd down play and put in a flyweight
2. Antonio Brown is pretty good as a return guy. He's kinda, ya know, special in he open field. In the days of Najeh "Dookie" Davenport, Dri would already be the return guy.

Again, it is very unlikely (yet possible) the team cuts Dri. However, that kind of speed, you have to be patient - because you know the game-changing ability that could come if developed. I fully expect him to have every opportunity in the preseason to become the return guy, across the board. Trust me, they want AB out of that role - they don't want him taking unnecessary open field hits

[feltdizz]

At what point did I claim to run the team? We will all find out what the coaches and FO want after the pre-season.

you didnt.... but you suggested I proved your point because Dri isnt an every back like that was our goalw hen we signed him.

Just pointing out your desire for Dri to be an every down back doesnt sync with our FO plans

[Slapstick]

Oh great. the canned "run and hide" accusation.

You are coming off real short bus right now.

So predictable. From earlier today:


Well done. But, it will fall upon deaf ears and you will probably be accused of lying. Or hiding. Or something else that isn't true.

[7 UP]

you didnt.... but you suggested I proved your point because Dri isnt an every back like that was our goalw hen we signed him.

Just pointing out your desire for Dri to be an every down back doesnt sync with our FO plans

I have no desire for Dri to be an every down back.

[7 UP]

Is it possible that you both have elements of accuracy in your posts, but, neither side is 100%?

1. Archer was never drafted to be an every down back. Having said that, he doesn't have to BECOME and every down back.
2. Archer was drafted because of his speed. Period. (The problem, IMO, is it's straight line speed, and he isn't elusive - but, i digress).
3. It IS possible (but, unlikely) that he's cut after camp. This is true for any unproven player - but, less likely for last year's 3rd round selection who runs in the 4.2's

So, let me clarify - Because of his speed, he was targeted to be a Dexter McCluster/Dante Hall - 3rd down/change of pace/return specialist. That's it. A guy who if allowed open field on a given play can score and steal you 4-5 TDs a year, in addition to good field position a few more times.

There are 2 problems Dri has run into:
1. Our primary RB, Bell, is pretty dang good out of the backfield as a pass catcher; and he's also big enough to handle blocking responsibilities, if a blitz is coming. It's hard to take that guy out of the game on a critical 3rd down play and put in a flyweight
2. Antonio Brown is pretty good as a return guy. He's kinda, ya know, special in he open field. In the days of Najeh "Dookie" Davenport, Dri would already be the return guy.

Again, it is very unlikely (yet possible) the team cuts Dri. However, that kind of speed, you have to be patient - because you know the game-changing ability that could come if developed. I fully expect him to have every opportunity in the preseason to become the return guy, across the board. Trust me, they want AB out of that role - they don't want him taking unnecessary open field hits

I agree with everything you said here. Its really all up to Dri. I hope he is a hard worker who put in the effort in the offseason to get better.

[RuthlessBurgher]

I have no desire for Dri to be an every down back.

I don't think anyone does. That doesn't mean he can't play a role, though.

[hawaiiansteel]

yup, definitely sounds like the Steelers are going to give up on and cut Archer...;)


Steelers notebook: Haley sees role for Archer

Steelers offensive coordinator Todd Haley hasn't given up on Dri Archer quite yet — as a running back or a kick returner.

Haley said Wednesday there needs to be patience with the development of the Steelers' 2014 third-round draft pick out of Kent State and that the Steelers plan to find a specific role to highlight's Archer's best aspect: his 4.2 speed.

“The important thing is that we do have a role for him if he is going to have a helmet on Sundays and he gets his five and six touches a game,” Haley said Wednesday during the Steelers Nation Unite “Weekly Huddle” fan forum session.

“Any one of those plays he has the chance to take it to the house with that speed. Let's just have a little patience and let him continue to develop, and we will definitely have a plan to get him touches throughout the season.”

“When you get guys like that, sometimes the transition time is a little longer than we all would like, himself included,” Haley said.

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/8000167-74/haley-steelers-archer#ixzz3UtnyRKOJ

[feltdizz]

I have no desire for Dri to be an every down back.

but you just said you were upset because he didnt replace Bell when he went down.

[hawaiiansteel]

by Scott Brown

A couple of notes:

Dri Archer will not only get a chance to win back the kickoff returner job he lost last season, but the 2014 third-round draft pick might also get an opportunity to return punts with the Steelers possibly looking to ease the burden on All-Pro wide receiver Antonio Brown. “I’m excited about where (punt returner) may go for us this year whether it’s Antonio Brown, whether it’s Dri Archer whether it’s a player to be named later,” Tomlin said.

http://espn.go.com/blog/pittsburgh-steelers/post/_/id/13031/pittsburgh-steelers-coach-mike-tomlin-pleased-with-steve-mclendons-development

[7 UP]

but you just said you were upset because he didnt replace Bell when he went down.

While you are chasing me from thread to thread, why not take the time to read my replies.

What I was uspset about was not having a legit 3rd running back, at the expense of keeping Archer.

[Shoe]

by Scott Brown

A couple of notes:

Dri Archer will not only get a chance to win back the kickoff returner job he lost last season, but the 2014 third-round draft pick might also get an opportunity to return punts with the Steelers possibly looking to ease the burden on All-Pro wide receiver Antonio Brown. “I’m excited about where (punt returner) may go for us this year whether it’s Antonio Brown, whether it’s Dri Archer whether it’s a player to be named later,” Tomlin said.

http://espn.go.com/blog/pittsburgh-steelers/post/_/id/13031/pittsburgh-steelers-coach-mike-tomlin-pleased-with-steve-mclendons-development

I REALLY hope they take the return duties off AB's plate. Because you know he WANTS to do it; that's not the issue. The issue is maximizing him on the field. As for Archer... other than him being unreliable back there (e.g. a fumbler) or that he is scared to hit a hole... a guy with his ability should excel.

[Shawn]

Shawn is a big fat doodiehead. Neener neener ha ha. Quoted for truth. :)

[feltdizz]

While you are chasing me from thread to thread, why not take the time to read my replies.

What I was uspset about was not having a legit 3rd running back, at the expense of keeping Archer.

smh... chasing you? Good lord, your ego is amazing.

there are literally 3 or 4 active threads right now.

[Slapstick]

Shawn is a big fat doodiehead. Neener neener ha ha.

Shawn isn't big!!!

[Shawn]

Shawn isn't big!!! I think he was referring the size of my doodiehead if I'm not mistaken. It is indeed larger than most. It's why I look like a bobblehead doll. :)

[hawaiiansteel]

Mike Tomlin Expects Dri Archer Will Have Productive Second Season

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/03...second-season/

[hawaiiansteel]

Alex Kozora ‏@Alex_Kozora
Alex Kozora retweeted Steelers Depot -

Defending Dri Archer may be a crime around these parts but I attempt to do it. Poor Blocking Aides In Dri Archer’s Return Woes

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/05/steelers-all-22-poor-blocking-aides-in-dri-archers-return-woes/ …

[hawaiiansteel]

Steelers speedster Archer aims to find home in 2nd season

By Mark Kaboly
Tuesday, June 2, 2015

Dri Archer is fast, clocking 4.26 seconds in the 40-yard dash fast — two-hundredths of a second short of the fastest time recorded at an NFL Scouting Combine.

That world-class speed ultimately was the reason the Steelers used their third-round pick on the diminutive all-purpose back a season ago.

Coincidentally, it also was one of the factors that contributed to Archer's disappointing rookie season, at least when it came to what he did best at Kent State: return kickoffs.

Archer, it turned out, was too fast. Now he is taking time before and after organized team activities with special teams coach Danny Smith to slow down.

“It was more about me running instead of reading (last year),” Archer said. “I was supposed to set stuff up, but I was just out there running. There is more to it that just running fast.”

Archer, who averaged nearly 37 yards per return during his junior season, was removed from kickoff returns midway through the season.

His inability to adjust was a microcosm of his rookie season. Archer managed only 10 rushes and seven receptions in 12 games. He missed two games with an ankle injury and two late in the season because of a coach's decision.

Archer played double-digit snaps only twice all season: the first game against the Cleveland Browns and the playoff loss against the Baltimore Ravens.

Still, the Steelers aren't about to write off Archer.

“I have always thought he is a guy who can help us out,” Antonio Brown said. “He is an asset. He can catch the ball out of the backfield and run it between the tackles. He can find a niche where he can help us out.”

What the niche might be is still the question.

Offensive coordinator Todd Haley said in March that he planned to carve out a role each week to ensure Archer would be active on game days.

That role likely will follow the same path as last season, when the Steelers used Archer in a variety of ways, whether having him run the ball or catch it as a slot receiver.

However, last year, the role never produced results.

“Let's just have a little patience and let him continue to develop, and we will definitely have a plan to get him touches throughout the season,” Haley said in March.

Running back Le'Veon Bell agreed with Haley about being patient.

“Dri is still coming into his own just like I was trying to figure things out after my rookie year coming into my second year,” Bell said. “I am expecting a big year from him. I don't think it is a tough thing to find a place for him.”

Haley has done it before.

When he was head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs, Haley picked Dexter McCluster in the second round and used him in various ways as a runner and receiver with about six touches per game.

Archer is up for whatever role the coaching staff finds for him.

“If it is special teams, running back, wide receivers, however I can do to help the team,” Archer said. “I am more comfortable this year. Having been in the system for a year, you understand the terminology and what they ask for you.”

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[RuthlessBurgher]

I still think he can be special returning kicks, if he can learn to be patient setting up his blocks back there like Le'Veon Bell does on offense, then just blast through the hole one it emerges. In the first few games when Bell is out this season, I think they could use DeAngelo Williams and Dri Archer similarly to how New England utilized Stevan Ridley and Shane Vereen in season's past, and if Archer shows some promise in those early season games catching passes out of the backfield, then he could possibly continue to be a role player on offense even when Bell comes back to carry the load.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

as long as they let Archer run outside the tackles once in a while, instead of up the middle.... to me, that's the problem. it wasn't using him, it was HOW they used him that made him disappointing. Get that boy the ball in space and let him go.