Clock Management and Play calling

[Sword]

We need plays that get us down the field on ball possession's in under 3 minutes and can score TD's...
Screw this crap of holding on the ball for a long time in one possession..we cannot even score...

The play calling we have been doing doesn't do that!!!!!

We need to look at the other teams that keep putting a lot of points on the board and heck steel those plays and practice them.
Why? Because our play calling sucks!!!!!!!!

[feltdizz]

You don't love the 13 play hurry up offense that burns clock?

[grotonsteel]

We need plays that get us down the field on ball possession's in under 3 minutes and can score TD's...
Screw this crap of holding on the ball for a long time in one possession..we cannot even score...

The play calling we have been doing doesn't do that!!!!!

We need to look at the other teams that keep putting a lot of points on the board and heck steel those plays and practice them.
Why? Because our play calling sucks!!!!!!!!

Defense needs to have rest...;)

Screen Draw Screen Draw are the only plays in the playbook it seems...

Steleers are missing Mike Wallace...

[Eich]

Defense needs to have rest...;)

Screen Draw Screen Draw are the only plays in the playbook it seems...

Steleers are missing Mike Wallace...

I don't think the Steelers miss Mike Wallace. Between Brown, Sanders, Cotch, Moye and Heath, we have more receiving talent that we did in 2005.

I think they miss competent play calling, competent clock handling and an offensive line that isn't cursed.

[feltdizz]

Defense needs to have rest...;)

Screen Draw Screen Draw are the only plays in the playbook it seems...

Steleers are missing Mike Wallace...

BA and Wallace..

Wallace wasn't anything special with Haley last year.

[grotonsteel]

BA and Wallace..

Wallace wasn't anything special with Haley last year.

+1

Wallace and AB84 would be great 1-2 punch with BA calling plays. Team would have no issues going 80 yards when BA was playcalling.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

Defense needs to have rest...;)

D has plenty of time to rest after they let the other team go 93 yards on one play.

[RKSteel]

D has plenty of time to rest after they let the other team go 93 yards on one play.
Its exhausting running in one direction away from the actual play.:wink:

[Ghost]

The first play on O the Steelers went deep and Ben had a terrible throw. Can you imagine if the Steelers had scored on their first play after the long TD run. Would have totally deflated the Raiders' momentum. Ben has to be able to hit that throw. I LOVED that play call. But then, it was as if that first call mentally exhausted Haley and he couldn't get creative the rest of the day.

There was another play where Ben got sacked - he had a wide open Will Johnson coming out of the backfield and there wasn't a Black jersey within 20 yards of him. Ben's got to see that and dump it off.

[steelz09]

The first play on O the Steelers went deep and Ben had a terrible throw. Can you imagine if the Steelers had scored on their first play after the long TD run. Would have totally deflated the Raiders' momentum. Ben has to be able to hit that throw. I LOVED that play call. But then, it was as if that first call mentally exhausted Haley and he couldn't get creative the rest of the day.

There was another play where Ben got sacked - he had a wide open Will Johnson coming out of the backfield and there wasn't a Black jersey within 20 yards of him. Ben's got to see that and dump it off.

That has been and will always be Ben. He could have the best o-line in the league and he'd still get sacked 35 times / year.

[Steeler Mafia]

Ben and Haley need to be more aware of the situation and do a better job managing the clock. This means that Haley needs to stop the multiple substituting of players during a 2 min drill or hurry up offense. It also means that Ben needs to keep his mouth shut and stop arguing calls with the refs when there is little time to get down the field. He must of wasted at lease a minute in the second to last drive before getting everyone back lined up.

[NorthCoast]

Ben and Haley need to be more aware of the situation and do a better job managing the clock. This means that Haley needs to stop the multiple substituting of players during a 2 min drill or hurry up offense. It also means that Ben needs to keep his mouth shut and stop arguing calls with the refs when there is little time to get down the field. He must of wasted at lease a minute in the second to last drive before getting everyone back lined up.


It's what bad teams do. Argue with the refs on calls and non-calls instead of focusing on great execution.

BTW, not to threadjack, but according to one analyst: "Miami is definitely not getting their money's worth from Mike Wallace"....... so maybe that is one good call from the Steelers FO in the last year....

[flippy]

The first play on O the Steelers went deep and Ben had a terrible throw. Can you imagine if the Steelers had scored on their first play after the long TD run. Would have totally deflated the Raiders' momentum. Ben has to be able to hit that throw. I LOVED that play call. But then, it was as if that first call mentally exhausted Haley and he couldn't get creative the rest of the day.

There was another play where Ben got sacked - he had a wide open Will Johnson coming out of the backfield and there wasn't a Black jersey within 20 yards of him. Ben's got to see that and dump it off.

After Ben being so far off on an easy deep throw where he had time, I can completely understand why Haley doesn't rely on Ben throwing deep passes.

[phillyesq]

I don't think the Steelers miss Mike Wallace. Between Brown, Sanders, Cotch, Moye and Heath, we have more receiving talent that we did in 2005.

I think they miss competent play calling, competent clock handling and an offensive line that isn't cursed.

In 2005, the Steelers still had Miller. A younger, faster Miller.

Ward, ARE, Wilson and Morgan vs. Brown, Sanders, Cotchery and Moye? Call it a wash. That team also had FWP averaging 4.7 YPC and Jerome Bettis.

[Ghost]

After Ben being so far off on an easy deep throw where he had time, I can completely understand why Haley doesn't rely on Ben throwing deep passes.

I agree with you Flip. Haley gets a lot of heat, but the truth is, Ben has not played well this year. He's certainly under pressure but there are numerous times when he has a nice pocket and misses an open guy. Badly misses. That first O play for the Steelers against the Raiders should have been an easy pitch and catch. A lot of QB's in this league, many who don't have Ben's talent overall, would have dropped that right in.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

In 2005, the Steelers still had Miller. A younger, faster Miller.

Ward, ARE, Wilson and Morgan vs. Brown, Sanders, Cotchery and Moye? Call it a wash. That team also had FWP averaging 4.7 YPC and Jerome Bettis.

In 2005, Oline consisted of Smith/Faneca/Hartings/Simmons/Starks

In 2013, Oline consists of (Beachum, Adams)/Foster/Velasco/Decastro/Gilbert

Say whatever you want about the rest of the talent, the real difference lies right there.