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8467thekraken
07-21-2013, 02:54 AM
...can he HELP set the tone for the defense in 2013?

There are a lot of questions with the defense(let alone the offense) in 2013. Who handles Harrison's responsibilities? who is THE NT on the line? Is Taylor and Allen all we need at CB? Can Golden and Thomas handle their own responsibilities.

I feel that Gay can come in and gather this defense by holding down the nickle responsibilities. By being a leader in this defense.

Gay hasn't been mentioned much during the off-season this year. There has been a lot of talk about the resurgence of Troy. And the addition of Jarvis. And the emergence of McClendon. And the tandem of Taylor and Allen.

But I say to you all that Gays' presence will be huge, not only on third downs, but in the locker room as well.

He has the perfecy position to come in a be a leader on defense. Troy is not a leader vocally. But everyone knows he gives 100%. The LB's have a lot of talent but not a lot of leaders. The defense has Keisel, but he is the strong, silent type.

It will be Gay who comes through as a leader for this defense on and off the field. Why else would the organization bring him back. They demand more from him than ever, and if he doesn't know this, then we are in big trouble.

thor75
07-21-2013, 09:13 AM
I believe you have more faith in Gay than I do. I think they had a lot of trouble finding a corner on the free agent market last year when Ike went down. WG is a known commodity, knows the defense, etc. I think they've could have done better obviously, but are limited with the cap. I thought I heard rumblings of Tez going to the nickel position for special matchups and someone else sliding over to CB. I'm not confident in Gay at the CB position. Don't think we have much choice though as Brown hasn't shown much so far. Maybe Hawthorne comes thru late in the season??

Discipline of Steel
07-21-2013, 10:20 AM
Gay has recently played well for us in the nickel position so I think his addition is certainly a boost to the depth of our secondary. As far as being a vocal leader, I have to imagine that would be Clark and maybe Foote to a lesser extent. Having been off the team for a year, Gay just doesn't have the standing in the locker room at this time.

flippy
07-21-2013, 11:38 AM
Big Play Willie Gay. Not the best in coverage, but he's got a knack for creating the big play. He's a smart kid and good athlete. I see him as helping us create a couple more turnovers this season and making us a little better as a result.

Snatch98
07-21-2013, 11:27 PM
Big Play Willie Gay. Not the best in coverage, but he's got a knack for creating the big play. He's a smart kid and good athlete. I see him as helping us create a couple more turnovers this season and making us a little better as a result.

I think Gay catches a lot of crap too for things outside his control. A for instance would be when he was tasked to cover gronk in new england without safety help over top. He too will directly benefit from lake and we may see another dimenson of his game as a direct result. I love the guy personally and hope he finds that extra gear.

phillyesq
07-22-2013, 07:08 AM
I think Gay catches a lot of crap too for things outside his control. A for instance would be when he was tasked to cover gronk in new england without safety help over top. He too will directly benefit from lake and we may see another dimenson of his game as a direct result. I love the guy personally and hope he finds that extra gear.

That was one game that came to mind for me. That is a hard task for anybody in the league, particularly a shorter corner.

Gay was awful when asked to start on the outside, but he has always been fine in the nickel. Ideally, you would like to see Hawthorne, DVD or Curtis Brown develop - they all have more raw physical ability. If they don't, Gay is sort of a poor man's Deshea Townsend. You could do better, but you could do a lot worse...

Ghost
07-22-2013, 08:33 AM
WG will make us all weep/curse numerous times throughout this season. If he's a starting CB, the team is screwed.

SteelerOfDeVille
07-22-2013, 12:04 PM
Big Play Willie Gay. Not the best in coverage, but he's got a knack for creating the big play. He's a smart kid and good athlete. I see him as helping us create a couple more turnovers this season and making us a little better as a result.
Love it! flip nailed his nickname from louisville, too... suh-weet! I remember comparing him to Deshea when he was drafted and peeps gave me crap and said "wasted pick" when my statement was "he'll be around for many years as a nickel back"... *genius* lol

Shawn
07-22-2013, 12:24 PM
WG will make us all weep/curse numerous times throughout this season. If he's a starting CB, the team is screwed.

If he is playing outside I agree. But, as a nickle he is solid.

Captain Crunch
07-22-2013, 12:58 PM
...can he HELP set the tone for the defense in 2013? But I say to you all that Gays' presence will be huge, not only on third downs, but in the locker room as well.

Is that what it all comes down to these days? Where did it all go wrong?

feltdizz
07-22-2013, 12:59 PM
nickel only.. I fell for the Gay once, won't do it again.

steelz09
07-22-2013, 01:58 PM
WG will make us all weep/curse numerous times throughout this season. If he's a starting CB, the team is screwed.

Agreed. I don't want to see him covering ANY #1 or #2 WRs the whole year.

flippy
07-22-2013, 04:07 PM
I thought the Steelers were planning to move Tez in the slot in the nickle and put Gay on the outside?

SteelerOfDeVille
07-22-2013, 04:41 PM
I fell for the Gay once, won't do it again.
not that there's anything wrong with that...

Shoe
07-22-2013, 09:24 PM
WG will make us all weep/curse numerous times throughout this season. If he's a starting CB, the team is screwed.

NO $H!+ Ghost! I don't know what these other guys are remembering! He was an unmitigated liability out there. That last year in PIT, he did seem to be lucky enough to be given a turnover or two (if I remember), but it is revisionist to say he did anything more.

Between him or Curtis Brown or me, I think I'd pick me. At least with me, the team knows its ridiculous weakness (and can adjust).

flippy
07-22-2013, 10:06 PM
Between him or Curtis Brown or me, I think I'd pick me. At least with me, the team knows its ridiculous weakness (and can adjust).

That's pretty funny if it weren't so true :)

But I do remember him being effective off the corner blitz, making plays on balls when he was in position, and being a decent tackler. His problem was staying with some faster WRs and the Steelers cushion wasn't his friend. His skillset isn't that different than Deshea Townsend's. I think Lake can help him with being in positions to be successful. IMHO, if Lake can fix Lewis, he can fix just about anybody's weakness. Probably even yours :)

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
07-23-2013, 11:40 AM
NO $H!+ Ghost! I don't know what these other guys are remembering! He was an unmitigated liability out there. That last year in PIT, he did seem to be lucky enough to be given a turnover or two (if I remember), but it is revisionist to say he did anything more.

Between him or Curtis Brown or me, I think I'd pick me. At least with me, the team knows its ridiculous weakness (and can adjust).

That was as a starter, and I think everyone will agree. However, the previous year he was a nickel CB before BMac left for Pit West. In that role he was pretty good. Good enough to say that he was not a liability. I'd be fine with that guy.