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Dee Dub
04-26-2013, 01:24 AM
Here's the ones that I have to shake my head at.

Dion Jordan at 3. His production on the field does not say 3rd overall pick.
Barkevious Mingo at 6. Same as above.
Tavon Austin at 8. To move from 16 to 8 for a player that doesn't make you a Super Bowl contender or at least close doesn't make sense. Especially for a team that has many more holes. And to have given as many picks as the Rams did is even more confusing.
E.J. Manuel at 16. Dont get it at all. He is a project at best. And now the Bills are going to be forced to use him at some point in year 1.
Justin Pugh at 19. Way too high. The run on tackles did it but still way too high.
Kyle Long at 20. Same as above. He had a mid second round grade at best.
Travis Frederick at 31. I think everyone knows that was a head shaker.

And here is something outside the box. Eric Fisher, Luke Joekel, and Lance Johnson are all going to be top notch NFL tackles no doubt. The teams that they will play for will never be anything until they all get legit QB's. These picks will be looked back on just like when Miami drafted Jake Long or when Cleveland drafted Joe Thomas. No big deal. Never made the franchise a legit contender. And like those teams, probably not even a playoff team.

Shawn
04-26-2013, 01:30 AM
For me, I believe the Browns made a huge mistake going Mingo over Milliner. IMO, milliner was the best player in this draft.

hawaiiansteel
04-26-2013, 01:36 AM
Travis Frederick at 31. I think everyone knows that was a head shaker.


Jerry Jones really needs to fire himself...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GZVjWQ7OqhI/TnCkga4K3JI/AAAAAAAAAPs/BF4gi5zi93A/s1600/jerry+jones+demotivational+poster.jpg

flippy
04-26-2013, 01:36 AM
I couldn't believe we were sitting there watching Star, Jarvis, and Floyd drop while some of these other players were being taken.

I'm curious if Star and Jarvis were both there at 17, who would you have taken? I told everyone I was hoping for Star. And I realize we'd have had to modify our D to fit him in and Jarvis was the easy player to plug into the existing system.

Now that I know Ike's been working with and mentoring Jarvis for the last 3 months, I'm sure the Steelers would have taken Jones now even if Star was there.

Chadman
04-26-2013, 01:59 AM
The trade-up's seemed particularly poorly thought out. There is no way the 49ers got value by trading up For Eric Reid, Miami trading p for Jordan... Both dumb picks.

The Bills did their usual draft stuff up.

The Raiders could have made better use of what was a good trade down- not sure the CB they got was the #2 CB on the board.

flippy
04-26-2013, 02:03 AM
The trade-up's seemed particularly poorly thought out. There is no way the 49ers got value by trading up For Eric Reid, Miami trading p for Jordan... Both dumb picks.

The Bills did their usual draft stuff up.

The Raiders could have made better use of what was a good trade down- not sure the CB they got was the #2 CB on the board.

It was odd. There were no trades for players they couldn't have gotten equivalent guys just staying put.

Ghost
04-26-2013, 08:27 AM
Give the Bills an F for this pick. So odd. The Long pick was a surprise. He hasn't even played O-line all that long (Oregon just converted him this season I believe . Have to assume the Rams think Austin will be a big play, stretch the field kind of WR.

feltdizz
04-26-2013, 08:39 AM
A lot of teams don't go BPA... they go after their guy.

I have no idea what the Cowboys and Bills were thinking but when you look at their playoff history it all makes sense.

Rara
04-26-2013, 08:42 AM
Out of my brothers and I, I was the happiest with Jarvis Jones and both my other brothers weren't happy with their team's picks (Green Bay and Chicago). I can understand that the Long pick for the Bears was ridiculous and a reach...but what about Datone Jones for Green Bay?

steelblood
04-26-2013, 08:53 AM
It was odd. There were no trades for players they couldn't have gotten equivalent guys just staying put.

Yes, the Eric Reid trade up by San Fran was particularly dumb imo. Reid is a very good talent, but he didn't play particularly well this season. He is NOT Polamalu or Ed Reed. If they stayed put they could have taken Elam or even got a similar talent (if they valued height) in round 2. Heck, if they stayed put, I believe they could have drafted the same player. I don't think anyone was going to take him until round 2.

I think this was a case of a team with too many picks stockpiled who overthought the situation.

steelblood
04-26-2013, 08:55 AM
Out of my brothers and I, I was the happiest with Jarvis Jones and both my other brothers weren't happy with their team's picks (Green Bay and Chicago). I can understand that the Long pick for the Bears was ridiculous and a reach...but what about Datone Jones for Green Bay?

Datone Jones is a great talent. He is an intimidator on the inside and he can pressure the QB. Plus, he is strong enough to handle the double team. I think the kid is just scratching the surface. I liked that pick.

Ghost
04-26-2013, 09:21 AM
Out of my brothers and I, I was the happiest with Jarvis Jones and both my other brothers weren't happy with their team's picks (Green Bay and Chicago). I can understand that the Long pick for the Bears was ridiculous and a reach...but what about Datone Jones for Green Bay?

I think Jones was a good pick for the Packers. Versatile athlete that should see a lot of playing time. I would be happy as a pack fan. If his name wasn't Long, there's no way he goes in the first round. Bears need a lot of help.

BigRob
04-26-2013, 12:23 PM
Here's the ones that I have to shake my head at.

Dion Jordan at 3. His production on the field does not say 3rd overall pick.
Barkevious Mingo at 6. Same as above.
Tavon Austin at 8. To move from 16 to 8 for a player that doesn't make you a Super Bowl contender or at least close doesn't make sense. Especially for a team that has many more holes. And to have given as many picks as the Rams did is even more confusing.
E.J. Manuel at 16. Dont get it at all. He is a project at best. And now the Bills are going to be forced to use him at some point in year 1.
Justin Pugh at 19. Way too high. The run on tackles did it but still way too high.
Kyle Long at 20. Same as above. He had a mid second round grade at best.
Travis Frederick at 31. I think everyone knows that was a head shaker.

And here is something outside the box. Eric Fisher, Luke Joekel, and Lance Johnson are all going to be top notch NFL tackles no doubt. The teams that they will play for will never be anything until they all get legit QB's. These picks will be looked back on just like when Miami drafted Jake Long or when Cleveland drafted Joe Thomas. No big deal. Never made the franchise a legit contender. And like those teams, probably not even a playoff team.

Probably a real head scratcher for you Dub. As you've said all along that more than one QB will go in the top ten. Turned out that no QB went in the top 10. These QB's were putrid.

Agree with the rest of your analysis for the other picks.

NorthCoast
04-26-2013, 12:47 PM
It was odd. There were no trades for players they couldn't have gotten equivalent guys just staying put.

Did yinz watch the SB? The SF secondary was horrendous... they had to do something out of desperation to fix it.