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Captain Crunch
04-15-2013, 12:33 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/agent-sanders-may-opt-to-play-year-out-with-steelers-then-sign-elsewhere-683565/

Maybe some of this is posturing, but why, why bring back someone who obviously doesn't want to be here and eats cap money. IMO Sanders has been a china doll and now he comes off a lot like Wallace. If the FO doesn't get him locked up long term this is a wasted move. And if the FO takes a chance on Sanders long term, is he going to stay healthy and be a consistent and major contributor? That 3rd rd pick was looking awful good to me. I still hope the brain trust goes after Steadman Baily. Count me as not a fan of Sanders... he has to bring it first... and so far he hasn't. Just my 2 cents.

Eich
04-15-2013, 12:38 PM
As long as he doesn't pull a Wallace, playing the season with caution - this might not be bad. Sanders has a lot to prove, whereas Wallace had already proven his biggest asset - speed. So, I think Sanders play has hard as he can this year.

It will be intersting to see if/where the Steelers draft a WR. If we do draft a receiver, then Sanders can help fill the void until the new guy is up to speed. Keeps the Steelers from reaching in the draft and gives us a capable player for at least this season. It's the Steeler way.

Shoe
04-15-2013, 12:46 PM
It's not a waste. We signed a guy with potential and familiarity, for $2.5 million. If he decides to leave after the season, we still got the year of service for which he was paid. At worst, it's a marginal mistake because people seem to be a) banking on that 3rd round pick we would've gained in return, and b) thinking that 3rd round pick would've turned out to be a Russell Wilson-level impact performer.

It's more likely that whoever it was, would've been a non-factor or minor contributor in '13. And if I knew the statistics of 3rd round picks and longevity in the league (I'm going to guess something around the league-average 3-4 year career)--it's not a big deal at all.

Steelhere10
04-15-2013, 12:49 PM
It will not be a waste, at worse we still get a high comp pick if he is signed for mega bucks. And still get a starter for cheap for a year.

papillon
04-15-2013, 12:57 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/agent-sanders-may-opt-to-play-year-out-with-steelers-then-sign-elsewhere-683565/

Maybe some of this is posturing, but why, why bring back someone who obviously doesn't want to be here and eats cap money. IMO Sanders has been a china doll and now he comes off a lot like Wallace. If the FO doesn't get him locked up long term this is a wasted move. And if the FO takes a chance on Sanders long term, is he going to stay healthy and be a consistent and major contributor? That 3rd rd pick was looking awful good to me. I still hope the brain trust goes after Steadman Baily. Count me as not a fan of Sanders... he has to bring it first... and so far he hasn't. Just my 2 cents.


"It would have to be a very good deal for us to sign a multi-year agreement," Woy said.

This is exactly what I mentioned in a different thread. Sanders has no reason to sign a long term deal with the Steelers unless, it's above market value with UFA looming 11 months from now. He can do exactly like Wallace did, limit his exposure to injury, play and wait for the end of the season which in all likelihood will be December. Of course, it's a risk, he could get injured and have nothing, but it seems that today's players are willing to roll the dice. He just watched it work for Wallace. He could hold out for the long term deal (with no intent on signing anything the Steelers propose) and miss training camp, start playing in September, probably very little if he misses training camp and cruise through the season and hit UFA.

The Steelers will probably wish they had the third round pick this year.

Pappy

feltdizz
04-15-2013, 12:58 PM
what has Sanders done to deserve a fat contract in FA next year? He has to ball out this year IMO.

papillon
04-15-2013, 01:03 PM
what has Sanders done to deserve a fat contract in FA next year? He has to ball out this year IMO.

Nothing, but if New England was interested and according to his agent other teams were willing to make the same play, he'll get more than we expect for doing not much. You don't need to do much in the NFL any longer to get more than you're worth. If you've made catches, made some YAC, and scored a few touchdowns you can get yourself a nice payday in the new NFL where you need 4 competent receivers to compete. It used to be that way for running backs, now it's WRs and quarterbacks.

He only has to ensure that he heads into the free agent season healthy and some one will overpay for him.

Pappy

flippy
04-15-2013, 01:10 PM
You don't need to do much in the NFL any longer to get more than you're worth.


Ask Mendy and James if they think this is true?

I'm of the mindset Sanders has to go all out. He may fancy money like Wally, but he plays a different game. He's got a much different approach on the field and typically seeks out contact even on plays most WRs take off.

Mister Pittsburgh
04-15-2013, 01:11 PM
Nice work Steelers....:roll:....way to ensure we have another prima donna on our hands that makes no effort on any ball that doesn't hit him directly in the chest.

flippy
04-15-2013, 01:11 PM
I'd also add, this is all the Steelers' fault for overpaying Brown.

papillon
04-15-2013, 01:28 PM
Ask Mendy and James if they think this is true?

I'm of the mindset Sanders has to go all out. He may fancy money like Wally, but he plays a different game. He's got a much different approach on the field and typically seeks out contact even on plays most WRs take off.

Wrong position and age is why they aren't getting big contracts. Wide receivers are a hot commodity, so, average to above average and healthy will get you a payday as a receiver.

Pappy

flippy
04-15-2013, 01:47 PM
Wrong position and age is why they aren't getting big contracts. Wide receivers are a hot commodity, so, average to above average and healthy will get you a payday as a receiver.

Pappy

I think Sanders still has to prove he's got game. Plus just cause Miami overpaid for a WR doesn't mean everyone else will. These guys are still a dime a dozen. Heck San Diego picked up Danario Alexander off the couch in the middle of last season and he looked great. Look at what Brady does with guys like Welker and Edleman.

I'm not sure there will be a huge market for Sanders unless he goes off this year.

papillon
04-15-2013, 01:52 PM
I think Sanders still has to prove he's got game. Plus just cause Miami overpaid for a WR doesn't mean everyone else will. These guys are still a dime a dozen. Heck San Diego picked up Danario Alexander off the couch in the middle of last season and he looked great. Look at what Brady does with guys like Welker and Edleman.

I'm not sure there will be a huge market for Sanders unless he goes off this year.

It only takes one team and Sanders has shown that he can make catches in the NFL. He won't get Wallace money, but he'll get a nice chunk of change (IMO) and probably more than the cash strapped Steelers can afford.

Pappy

SteelerOfDeVille
04-15-2013, 02:30 PM
"sanders MAY sign elsewhere..."
doesn't that also mean:
"sanders may not..." ?
shoot, that's not even news-worthy...

NorthCoast
04-15-2013, 09:29 PM
Sanders and agent are taking the chance that he may be a footnote next season given all the WR talent entering the league this draft season. It wouldn't take much for a few of these rookies to match Sanders numbers of last season. Law of supply and demand may work in the Steelers favor come this time next year. If I am the FO, I may take the same approach I did with Wallace and let Sanders play the season for his contract. It will also tell the Steelers whether this is the kind of player they want long-term.

Rara
04-15-2013, 09:43 PM
It will not be a waste, at worse we still get a high comp pick if he is signed for mega bucks. And still get a starter for cheap for a year.

A fifth rounder...

Sugar
04-15-2013, 10:19 PM
Emmanuel Sanders had several offers, agent sayshttp://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000159955/article/emmanuel-sanders-had-several-offers-says-agent

The Pittsburgh Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT) were forced to increase Emmanuel Sanders' salary from $1.3 million to $2.5 million after matching the New England Patriots (http://www.nfl.com/teams/newenglandpatriots/profile?team=NE)' offer sheet. If the Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT) want to hang on to Sanders beyond 2013, it's going to cost them a lot more.

Agent Jordan Woy told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that "several teams (http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/agent-sanders-may-opt-to-play-year-out-with-steelers-then-sign-elsewhere-683565/)" made offers to Sanders in restricted free agency.
The other teams must not have been offering as much money as the Patriots (http://www.nfl.com/teams/newenglandpatriots/profile?team=NE), or Sanders would have chosen their offer sheet instead. The interest still has Sanders and Woy confident that there will be multiple bidders if they reach unrestricted free agency in 2014.
While Sanders is "open" to a long-term deal with the Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT), Woy made it clear that it would have to come with a hefty raise.
"We are also open to him playing the year out," Woy said. "It would have to be a very good deal for us to sign a multi-year agreement."
The Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT) lost $1.2 million, turned down a third-round draft pick and ultimately might get nothing in return if Sanders walks next offseason. It was a costly mistake not to initially tender Sanders at the second-round level.
Follow Chris Wesseling on Twitter @ChrisWesseling (https://twitter.com/ChrisWesseling).

Sugar
04-15-2013, 10:21 PM
Emmanuel Sanders had several offers, agent says

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000159955/article/emmanuel-sanders-had-several-offers-says-agent (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000159955/article/emmanuel-sanders-had-several-offers-says-agent)

The Pittsburgh Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT) were forced to increase Emmanuel Sanders' salary from $1.3 million to $2.5 million after matching the New England Patriots (http://www.nfl.com/teams/newenglandpatriots/profile?team=NE)' offer sheet. If the Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT) want to hang on to Sanders beyond 2013, it's going to cost them a lot more.

Agent Jordan Woy told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that "several teams (http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/agent-sanders-may-opt-to-play-year-out-with-steelers-then-sign-elsewhere-683565/)" made offers to Sanders in restricted free agency.
The other teams must not have been offering as much money as the Patriots (http://www.nfl.com/teams/newenglandpatriots/profile?team=NE), or Sanders would have chosen their offer sheet instead. The interest still has Sanders and Woy confident that there will be multiple bidders if they reach unrestricted free agency in 2014.
While Sanders is "open" to a long-term deal with the Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT), Woy made it clear that it would have to come with a hefty raise.
"We are also open to him playing the year out," Woy said. "It would have to be a very good deal for us to sign a multi-year agreement."
The Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT) lost $1.2 million, turned down a third-round draft pick and ultimately might get nothing in return if Sanders walks next offseason. It was a costly mistake not to initially tender Sanders at the second-round level.
Follow Chris Wesseling on Twitter @ChrisWesseling (https://twitter.com/ChrisWesseling).

steelz09
04-15-2013, 10:44 PM
Wow ...... after those comments, I wonder if the Steelers wish they would've just taken the 3rd rounder.

Eddie Spaghetti
04-15-2013, 10:50 PM
Wow ...... after those comments, I wonder if the Steelers wish they would've just taken the 3rd rounder.

where is the outrage?

wallace would have been crucified if he or his agent said something like this.

Mister Pittsburgh
04-15-2013, 11:01 PM
Now that we have Sanders signed, we should dangle him to the Patriots for a second round pick. If they would cough up a 3rd, maybe they would cough up a second.

steelz09
04-15-2013, 11:07 PM
where is the outrage?

wallace would have been crucified if he or his agent said something like this.

Don't worry... it's likely to turn into a crucification especially if he starts coming out with the "lack of concentration" comments as Wallace did.... just adding fuel to the fire :)

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
04-15-2013, 11:18 PM
according to his agent other teams were willing to make the same play

Repeat this to yourself and see if it sounds as ridiculous to you as it does to me. :o

SanAntonioSteelerFan
04-16-2013, 12:13 AM
Not sure about the quality of agents lately. Exactly how are inflammatory comments like "My boy is going to spit in your eye in 365 days" supposed to increase Sander's value? Add that to the quality advice (not) that James got, and who was that marquee player whose agent forgot to file papers by deadline?

Maybe I could become an agent. Yeah, that's the ticket!

B&GinNC
04-16-2013, 08:26 AM
So let me ask this question... it seems like Belichick has, ever since we ran him out of Cleveland, had a special obsession with the Steelers. He has never missed a chance to tweak us over the years. Is the Sanders signing at least partially an opportunity to hit him and the *'s back?

From their perspective, there's this, from ESPN Boston...

"With the Steelers matching the Patriots' $2.5 million offer sheet for restricted free agent receiver Emmanuel Sanders, New England is back to square one in terms of addressing what is arguably the most glaring need on the 2013 roster.

Here is a reset of New England's personnel at the position:

Kamar Aiken
Danny Amendola
Jeremy Ebert
Julian Edelman
Andre Holmes
Michael Jenkins
Donald Jones
Matthew Slater

If the Patriots enter the 2013 season with this as their complete receiver depth chart, it likely will be an area of major struggles. As the Patriots showed by signing Sanders to an offer sheet, they acknowledge the need for an upgrade.

The best place to do so is the draft, but here's the catch: If there is one position Bill Belichick has struggled to draft and develop, it's receivers. Look at the history of Belichick's draft picks at the position and it's shaky at best: Deion Branch (second round, 2002), David Givens (seventh, 2002), Bethel Johnson (second, 2003), P.K. Sam (fifth, 2004), Chad Jackson (second, 2006), Brandon Tate (third, 2009), Edelman (seventh, 2009), Taylor Price (third, 2010), Ebert (seventh, 2012).

Belichick has noted several times in the past that projecting receivers from college to the team's system is a lot harder than projecting how a receiver already in the NFL might fit because of the differences in the college and pro passing games.

But at this point, he might not have a choice; the best chance for the team to add a top-level receiver looks like the draft. For what it's worth, the club has hosted a handful of receivers on pre-draft visits -- Oregon State's Markus Wheaton, Southern Cal's Robert Woods, Oklahoma's Kenny Stills and Texas Christian's Josh Boyce among them.

This sets up an intriguing storyline for the Patriots: Given the glaring need, can they reverse their struggles when it comes to drafting and developing receivers? And if not, how will it affect their 2013 season?"

As it turns out, Brady has absolutely nobody to throw to on the outside this year. They really wanted, and NEEDED, this player. Spending the extra 1.2 mil to leave the Cheats in a bind at the position worse than the one we'd've been in without Sanders? Priceless.

feltdizz
04-16-2013, 09:03 AM
Nothing, but if New England was interested and according to his agent other teams were willing to make the same play, he'll get more than we expect for doing not much. You don't need to do much in the NFL any longer to get more than you're worth. If you've made catches, made some YAC, and scored a few touchdowns you can get yourself a nice payday in the new NFL where you need 4 competent receivers to compete. It used to be that way for running backs, now it's WRs and quarterbacks.

He only has to ensure that he heads into the free agent season healthy and some one will overpay for him.

Pappy

Not so sure about that... IMO he has done nothing to get overpaid... We dangled him out there for a freaking late 3rd rounder. If we put a higher tender on him I doubt anyone would make a move.

Mister Pittsburgh
04-16-2013, 09:52 AM
As I said, if the Pats need him so bad, then trade him to them for their 2nd round pick.

flippy
04-16-2013, 11:07 AM
So let me ask this question... it seems like Belichick has, ever since we ran him out of Cleveland, had a special obsession with the Steelers. He has never missed a chance to tweak us over the years. Is the Sanders signing at least partially an opportunity to hit him and the *'s back?

From their perspective, there's this, from ESPN Boston...

"With the Steelers matching the Patriots' $2.5 million offer sheet for restricted free agent receiver Emmanuel Sanders, New England is back to square one in terms of addressing what is arguably the most glaring need on the 2013 roster.

Here is a reset of New England's personnel at the position:

Kamar Aiken
Danny Amendola
Jeremy Ebert
Julian Edelman
Andre Holmes
Michael Jenkins
Donald Jones
Matthew Slater

If the Patriots enter the 2013 season with this as their complete receiver depth chart, it likely will be an area of major struggles. As the Patriots showed by signing Sanders to an offer sheet, they acknowledge the need for an upgrade.

The best place to do so is the draft, but here's the catch: If there is one position Bill Belichick has struggled to draft and develop, it's receivers. Look at the history of Belichick's draft picks at the position and it's shaky at best: Deion Branch (second round, 2002), David Givens (seventh, 2002), Bethel Johnson (second, 2003), P.K. Sam (fifth, 2004), Chad Jackson (second, 2006), Brandon Tate (third, 2009), Edelman (seventh, 2009), Taylor Price (third, 2010), Ebert (seventh, 2012).

Belichick has noted several times in the past that projecting receivers from college to the team's system is a lot harder than projecting how a receiver already in the NFL might fit because of the differences in the college and pro passing games.

But at this point, he might not have a choice; the best chance for the team to add a top-level receiver looks like the draft. For what it's worth, the club has hosted a handful of receivers on pre-draft visits -- Oregon State's Markus Wheaton, Southern Cal's Robert Woods, Oklahoma's Kenny Stills and Texas Christian's Josh Boyce among them.

This sets up an intriguing storyline for the Patriots: Given the glaring need, can they reverse their struggles when it comes to drafting and developing receivers? And if not, how will it affect their 2013 season?"

As it turns out, Brady has absolutely nobody to throw to on the outside this year. They really wanted, and NEEDED, this player. Spending the extra 1.2 mil to leave the Cheats in a bind at the position worse than the one we'd've been in without Sanders? Priceless.

And yet Tom Brady will put up better passing numbers than any other QB. At the end of the day WRs don't matter so much.

Slapstick
04-16-2013, 11:28 AM
And yet Tom Brady will put up better passing numbers than any other QB. At the end of the day WRs don't matter so much.

But, at the end of the day, what will they win?

What have they won?

papillon
04-16-2013, 12:27 PM
Repeat this to yourself and see if it sounds as ridiculous to you as it does to me. :o

The comment is grammatically incomplete. What I was trying to say was that according to Sanders' agent there were other teams "making the same play to obtain him" besides the New England Patriots. The Patriots simply offered him the most scratch 2.5 million dollars. I was probably in a hurry and the meaning behind the statement could not be determined.

Pappy

hawaiiansteel
04-16-2013, 02:48 PM
his agent may be shooting his mouth off, but Sanders himself seems to be saying all of the right things...


Sanders: "This place is special to me"

Teresa Varley
Steelers.com

Voluntary offseason workouts began on Monday for NFL teams, but on Sunday morning wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders still wasn’t sure where he would be reporting for the first day of the program.

Sanders, a restricted free agent, had signed a one-year contract offer with the New England Patriots last week. The Steelers had five days to match the offer, or lose Sanders to the Patriots in exchange for their third-round draft pick. On Sunday the Steelers choose to match the offer and keep Sanders in black and gold.

“It’s been a lot of ups and downs, a lot of confusion, but the end result was good, getting the opportunity to play for the team I wanted to play for, so I am happy,” said Sanders. “It feels really good to be wanted. All of the hard work I put in has paid off.

“Pittsburgh gave me the opportunity when I was just a kid coming out of college so this place is special to me.”

Sanders joined his Steelers’ teammates for the first phase of offseason workouts on Monday, taking part in the conditioning program and getting lots of hugs and high-fives from the guys.

“Being here today was extremely important,” said Sanders. “After the deal came about I wanted to be here working. I wanted to do the right thing. In order for us to win we have to have camaraderie, and for that to happen guys need to be here. This is the first time we can meet and start getting chemistry. For me, the season has officially started.”

After starting only eight games in his first three seasons, Sanders has an opportunity this season to step into a full-time starter role after Mike Wallace departed for the Miami Dolphins via free agency. It’s a role he would relish.

“I just want to come in and make plays,” said Sanders. “I want to stay healthy. This year I want to be a full-time starter. I am looking forward to taking advantage of it. It’s an opportunity I have been waiting for and now that it is here I am working hard so when the ball comes my way I will be able to do what I know I am capable of doing.

“The moment is here, carpe diem. It’s something I relate to a lot. It’s about seizing the moment, seizing the day. It’s something in my heart I want to do, not just for myself, but for Steelers Nation. After all, I am wearing (Lynn Swann’s) No. 88. I remember my rookie year having that conversation about representing No. 88 and I am looking forward to representing it well.”

http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/Sanders-This-place-is-special-to-me/0d6cc40f-1a7f-4e70-918a-762a8baf4c01

Captain Crunch
04-16-2013, 04:04 PM
^ This is what I wanted to hear from him... not I'll play the year out and hit the road like Wallace... and that still could very well happen. The $1M question is will he step up his game and stay healthy? All the locker room malcontents needed to be purged. We don't need a "Young Money Crew", we need a "I'm Young and Hungary Crew"...

hawaiiansteel
04-16-2013, 04:39 PM
We don't need a "Young Money Crew", we need a "I'm Young and Hungary Crew"...

you want a bunch of Hungarians playing WR for us? ;)

I think they're pretty good in water polo, gymnastics and soccer, not too sure about American Football...:D

Captain Crunch
04-16-2013, 05:19 PM
you want a bunch of Hungarians playing WR for us? ;)

I think they're pretty good in water polo, gymnastics and soccer, not too sure about American Football...:D

HaHa! Freudian slip (or typo) on my part LOL!!! I worked in Hungary for 10 years... for real... fingers type what it thinks the brain is saying LOL... Some tough and genetic specimens over there. They have American Football leagues in Budapest... I watched the famous Tommy Maddox vs Cleveland comeback on TV in Budapest. Steelers FO should do some scouting there... Anyway make that "Young and Hungry Crew"!!!

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
04-16-2013, 10:16 PM
The comment is grammatically incomplete. What I was trying to say was that according to Sanders' agent there were other teams "making the same play to obtain him" besides the New England Patriots. The Patriots simply offered him the most scratch 2.5 million dollars. I was probably in a hurry and the meaning behind the statement could not be determined.

Pappy

No, I meant the part where we were supposed to believe the word of the agent as to how many teams were interested.

hawaiiansteel
05-05-2013, 11:17 PM
Steelers expect 70 catches, 1,000 yards out of Emmanuel Sanders

By SteelCityRoller on May 2 2013

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/12550545/gyi0060316858.0_standard_500.0.jpg

The restricted free-agent put his original team on the spot by signing an offer sheet from an AFC rival. The Steelers matched said offer, but expect the player to live up to his pay increase.

The New England Patriots took their sweet time making an offer to RFA WR Emmanuel Sanders, then the Pittsburgh Steelers took their own sweet time deciding whether to match their offer. However, they wasted no time laying out the conditions which match the pay increase they agreed to.

Sanders spent most of Wednesday appearing across the lineup on ESPN. Most of the questions he entertained encircled the personnel rollover experienced by the Steelers roster this off-season; primarily former teammate Mike Wallace. However, during one answer, Sanders let slip a small piece of the Steelers mindset about his own situation.

Once Wallace became a free agent, Sanders slid up the depth chart by default. Whether he broke training camp as the top dog having yet to be seen, his role was bound to increase. Now, we know how far the team expects it to increase.

"They're expecting 70 catches for 1,000 yards, and that's the same thing that I expect for myself."

Quite a lofty goal for someone who set career best seasonal benchmarks of 44 catches and 626 yards in 2012. Even Wallace as the team's No.1, only had 64 catches and 836 yards; and he did so for about a quarter-million more than Sanders new contract is worth.

Perhaps these goals do not seem unobtainable for Sanders, but they don't seem to be a suggestion from the team. This is what is expected.

Sanders makes no mention as to when the team placed this bar before him, although one can't help but wonder if it came after the Steelers had to match the offer sheet Sanders signed. Were their original expectations for him slightly more realistic for a player who is admittedly the second receiver on the depth chart behind Antonio Brown, knowing he would already be in an increased role anyway?

Both Sanders original RFA tender and his new contract only cover the 2013 season. Afterward, he becomes an unrestricted free-agent. Obviously, the Steelers need to know he is worthy of starting before they offer him a new extension; but to expect those types of numbers from a player whose best season barely surpassed their halfway points is a bit of a stretch.

Maybe Sanders brought the extra requirements upon himself by forcing the Steelers hand into a raise, but one thing is certain -- if Sanders can meet the Steelers demands this year, he will be rewarded with a new contract next season, whether it is offered by Pittsburgh, or someone else.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/5/2/4291718/steelers-Emmanuel-Sanders-expected-statistics

LordVile
05-06-2013, 01:45 AM
Nice work Steelers....:roll:....way to ensure we have another prima donna on our hands that makes no effort on any ball that doesn't hit him directly in the chest.

if he is a BITCCCH how is that the steelers fault??

steel50
05-06-2013, 09:37 AM
I hate to say this but steelers need him this season. With miller being hurt and steelers relying on a rookie to play right away, weapons are limited

chiken
05-06-2013, 11:56 AM
I hate to say this but steelers need him this season. With miller being hurt and steelers relying on a rookie to play right away, weapons are limited


Was a no Brainer to bring him back.. w/o Sanders you would be possibly talking about Breaking in a new Wideout, a new slot, A new Starting Tight-end (for the first half of the Season) and a new a new starting Running back. And you thought our offense let us down last year.

steel50
05-06-2013, 01:21 PM
Was a no Brainer to bring him back.. w/o Sanders you would be possibly talking about Breaking in a new Wideout, a new slot, A new Starting Tight-end (for the first half of the Season) and a new a new starting Running back. And you thought our offense let us down last year.

i agee 100 %

squidkid
05-06-2013, 03:05 PM
matching NEs offer sheet was a mistake.
sanders will bolt next year for the money. we could have used the extra 3rd rounder for a TE or WR this year. wasting next years third for a 6 year backup qb was ignorant and will really hurt us next draft. our offense sucked last year with sanders and im sure a rookie or league vet minimum FA wr could put up sanders production.
i will change my tune if the steelers reach a very reasonable contract extension with sanders before the season starts

steel50
05-06-2013, 03:10 PM
matching NEs offer sheet was a mistake.
sanders will bolt next year for the money. we could have used the extra 3rd rounder for a TE or WR this year. wasting next years third for a 6 year backup qb was ignorant and will really hurt us next draft. our offense sucked last year with sanders and im sure a rookie or league vet minimum FA wr could put up sanders production.
i will change my tune if the steelers reach a very reasonable contract extension with sanders before the season starts

they do need to get him signed but without him this year they would have struggle to find someone. He is better than a thrid round rookie, steelers need to win now but i do understand what you are saying

SteelerOfDeVille
05-06-2013, 03:26 PM
matching NEs offer sheet was a mistake.
sanders will bolt next year for the money. we could have used the extra 3rd rounder for a TE or WR this year. wasting next years third for a 6 year backup qb was ignorant and will really hurt us next draft. our offense sucked last year with sanders and im sure a rookie or league vet minimum FA wr could put up sanders production.
i will change my tune if the steelers reach a very reasonable contract extension with sanders before the season starts

IIRC, we did use a 3rd on a WR (wheaton)... Besides, who knows, it may well have changed the teams thinking, causing them to pass on Jarvis and/or LeVeon... and gone with Codarrelle Patterson or something... I'm perfectly fine with how it played out.

SteelSpain
05-06-2013, 03:40 PM
IIRC, we did use a 3rd on a WR (wheaton)... Besides, who knows, it may well have changed the teams thinking, causing them to pass on Jarvis and/or LeVeon... and gone with Codarrelle Patterson or something... I'm perfectly fine with how it played out.

Maybe not. I think they take Jones, Bell and Wheaton. And other WR with the extra pick or Shamarko and we still have our 3rd next year. Who knows. But possibly we´d be fine with Brown, Cotchery, Plax, signing Breaston and the rookies.

squidkid
05-08-2013, 02:52 PM
Maybe not. I think they take Jones, Bell and Wheaton. And other WR with the extra pick or Shamarko and we still have our 3rd next year. Who knows. But possibly we´d be fine with Brown, Cotchery, Plax, signing Breaston and the rookies.


yup. wait until next year and listen to all the 'real' fans that are falling over themselves with the landry jones pick right now, cry about not having a 3rd rounder while l jones does nothing.
dysert was there to develop in the 6th round this year

SteelSpain
05-08-2013, 03:13 PM
yup. wait until next year and listen to all the 'real' fans that are falling over themselves with the landry jones pick right now, cry about not having a 3rd rounder while l jones does nothing.
dysert was there to develop in the 6th round this year

Right. I think match the NE´s offer was a mistake. Like I said we´d fine whithout him. About Landry, I agree he´ll barely see the field this year. We sign Gradkowski as primary back up, but we should trust in the FO and hope Landry developes into a great QB :D

NorthCoast
05-08-2013, 07:10 PM
matching NEs offer sheet was a mistake.
sanders will bolt next year for the money. we could have used the extra 3rd rounder for a TE or WR this year. wasting next years third for a 6 year backup qb was ignorant and will really hurt us next draft. our offense sucked last year with sanders and im sure a rookie or league vet minimum FA wr could put up sanders production.
i will change my tune if the steelers reach a very reasonable contract extension with sanders before the season starts

You are assuming he will tear it up this season and not miss significant games to injury. Neither is a given with Sanders. He has one good season to his credit, but he also has been injured. Just as easily could be begging the Steelers for that second contract next season if things don't go his way.

squidkid
05-08-2013, 08:06 PM
You are assuming he will tear it up this season and not miss significant games to injury. Neither is a given with Sanders. He has one good season to his credit, but he also has been injured. Just as easily could be begging the Steelers for that second contract next season if things don't go his way.

that could be just as bad. he has a mediocre season or gets injured and thats very little help to the team this year. overpay for mediocre stats and lose out on the 3rd rounder. i may end up totally wrong on this one, but i think matching was a mistake. i have no problem going on record and stating so. we'll have to wait for a contract extension before season or end of season stat line or after the FA pewrion next year to see who ends up correct on this one. being part of the young money crew, i see sanders pulling a wallass move.

Captain Crunch
05-09-2013, 09:40 AM
that could be just as bad. he has a mediocre season or gets injured and thats very little help to the team this year. overpay for mediocre stats and lose out on the 3rd rounder. i may end up totally wrong on this one, but i think matching was a mistake. i have no problem going on record and stating so. we'll have to wait for a contract extension before season or end of season stat line or after the FA pewrion next year to see who ends up correct on this one. being part of the young money crew, i see sanders pulling a wallass move.


I share your opinion and skepticism, this is what my gut has been telling me as well. I have serious doubts about Sanders ability to stay healthy for an entire season as a starter. He also pulled a power play on the Steelers by signing with the Cheatriots and showed his loyalty is to the highest bidder. Very Wallace-esque like... At the very least Colbert bought the team some stability at WR for a year while the young guys have a chance to develop. I hope ES has a breakout year... but if he does I think he follows in Wallace's footsteps...