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Big Ern McCracken
04-14-2013, 10:53 AM
I'm not sure if the FO believes that we are still "Contenders" this year... or are in a "rebuilding mode"..
I hear a lot of talk on here about the Steelers being in a rebuilding mode... but the off season moves send mixed signals.

First of all.. I think we made mistakes by letting Keenan Lewis and Will Allen go. I think we would get as much production this year out of that combination as we would Troy and Ike. Keeping Allen (and letting Troy go) would allow us to have a solid starter for the next few years at that position (for much less money than Troy), while drafting a safety (to be groomed for that position). Troy is likely going to be out half the year with injuries anyways... and we have no proven backups at the position at this time.

It's my understanding that we have a pile of money tied up into Ike also. Ike's a solid corner, but his best years are behind him.. Keenan Lewis is just coming into his prime, and could have been signed to a long term deal for less money.

If the FO would have played their cards right... we wouldn't have had to be in a rebuilding mode at all...but a "Reloading mode". Simply stated, you let Troy and Ike go.. maybe trade them if there is still a demand for their services elsewhere... maybe get some quality draft picks for them..

You keep Sanders, Allen, Lewis., Max Starks.. Sign the McClain kid from Oakland who just signed with Baltimore for $700K... and you are once again contenders in the AFC. With these moves you don't put added pressure for Rookies to start on day 1.. and have quality starters who can get the job done while getting draft picks valuable experience to add depth and possibly take over as starters the next few years.

grotonsteel
04-14-2013, 11:16 AM
I am not sure what Steelers are doing....If they are re-building then why are they letting young players go??? K-Lew should have been playing instead of Ike if they were rebuilding..

I think Baltimore Ravens have owned Steelers FO for last 4-5 years....There drafts are not that great but they have hit jackpot in FA...McKennzie, Boldin, Birk, Boldin, Jacoby Jones..all contributed to their SB win...

I also like their Ronaldo McClain signing....I am pretty sure he will be contributing for them....They did great by signing Dumervile and McClain....

Captain Crunch
04-14-2013, 11:43 AM
Can you say "2012 Colts"? ... They basically turned over their entire starting offense and started a rookie QB to boot. How did that turn out? I have faith that Colbert and Tomlin will surround Ben with a competitive cast. As far as Sanders, will he be always injury prone?

Coolie Man
04-14-2013, 12:28 PM
Rebuilding. Too many holes to fill this time. Also you have a doubting Thomas at qb. They should trade Ben or get rid of Haley.

supersteeler
04-14-2013, 01:01 PM
We are in a rebuiding stage which started when we lost James farrior, Hines ward, Aaron Smith, Hoke, and it continues this year and next year as well when Ike,Troy,Clark could be their last year as a Steeler.
Combine that with James Harrison, Wallace, Lewis, Starks, Colone, Mendy, and Sanders it is clear the Steelers are rebuilding their roster.

As far as being contenders, it would be a lot to ask for a team losing so many players and relying on draft picks to fill the void, combined with uncertainty if our current three year players step up.
Will Ziggy hood, Heyward, Worlids take the next step? Can we be certain Gilbert, Adams fill the left tackle position and our slim receiver corps and lack of run game keep us competitive?

In my mind we still have a team that will be competitive, but how far will that take us considering the players we lost and relying on draft picks? I contend it will take us a few years in order for us to be a playoff caliber team and thats if our draft picks work out and current players step up.

The cap issues and restructuring of contracts hurt us and now we are seeing the results where we don't have enough money under the cap to sign formidable players and sign our own.
The Steelers tried their best to keep the core players intact up till the 2010 SB with GB where we unfortunately lost, but look at the bright side 2005,2008 SB champs so three Super Bowl appearances in that span would be the envy of other teams.

I'm lookng forward to the draft hoping we can rebuild with the right players that we select, that some may help us in the short term but moreso be a solution in the long term to get us back on top.
I cheered our Steelers when we were top dogs and I'll continue to cheer them no matter the circumstances, but I do face reality folks, this Steelers team as it stands isn't playoff ready and most likely have to endure some lean years until we climb that mountain again.

Shawn
04-14-2013, 02:54 PM
We are contenders who are rebuilding...it's both. This Steeler team is in desperate need for young talents step up on the field and as leaders. They have lost their identity...they have lost significant talent. With that said, as long as Ben is healthy this is a 10 win team.

Mister Pittsburgh
04-14-2013, 03:52 PM
We will be contenders until half way through the season when our offensive line starts to get injured, Woodley pulls his hamstring and Worilds has an injury and we have Chris Carter and Robinson starting at OLB, and Troy starts his annual sweatpants modeling gig on the sideline with a calf injury. Then Tomlin will say the standard is the standard and after another .500 season finishes he will say injuries are part of the game and Colbert will act like the media and fans are morons for having the gumption to say something is wrong.

SteelerOfDeVille
04-14-2013, 04:14 PM
We are contenders who are rebuilding...it's both. This Steeler team is in desperate need for young talents step up on the field and as leaders. They have lost their identity...they have lost significant talent. With that said, as long as Ben is healthy this is a 10 win team.
that so hit the nail on the head... as long as Ben is healthy, this is a 10-win team... that's the beauty of a true franchise QB...

As fans, we're spoiled because we expect to be in the running for the SB annually... and with Ben, we always have a chance. With additional good players, this could be a 12 or 13 win team. To an extent, the FO knows they'll be competitive, even if this draft is a total bust. IMO, they're looking for the moves that take this team from a 10-win team to a 13 win team - and that sometimes takes patience.

hawaiiansteel
04-14-2013, 04:22 PM
We are contenders who are rebuilding...it's both. This Steeler team is in desperate need for young talents step up on the field and as leaders. They have lost their identity...they have lost significant talent. With that said, as long as Ben is healthy this is a 10 win team.

well stated Shawn! :Clap

skyhawk
04-14-2013, 05:22 PM
A franchise QB with the least supporting cast of his career. I feel sorry for the guy. 10 wins?

Big Ern McCracken
04-14-2013, 07:44 PM
At least they brought back sanders...

so now there are 4 capables receivers on the roster (that have experience in the system) heading into training camp..

Big Ern McCracken
04-14-2013, 07:47 PM
We will be contenders until half way through the season when our offensive line starts to get injured, Woodley pulls his hamstring and Worilds has an injury and we have Chris Carter and Robinson starting at OLB, and Troy starts his annual sweatpants modeling gig on the sideline with a calf injury. Then Tomlin will say the standard is the standard and after another .500 season finishes he will say injuries are part of the game and Colbert will act like the media and fans are morons for having the gumption to say something is wrong.

Sounds like alot of the same (of the last two years). You may very well be right..

flippy
04-14-2013, 09:41 PM
If Ben and Troy stay healthy, we're the favorites in the AFC.

The one big mistake was letting James go, but Worilds will roll. Allen's way better than Lewis and Ike and Big Play Gay's a good cat to bring back into the fold. The big question on D for me is can the DLine step up? Can we live without Casey? Those are the biggest shoes to fill.

On O, we'll be fine. Dwyer's got something to prove and will get in shape and start dominating running behind Adams and DD. Sanders is gonna take it to another level and Plax is gonna get his game legs back and score 10+ TDs in the Red Zone.

Actually, let's just get another punter. I can live with Sushi for now if Tomlin agrees not to trot him out for 45-55+ yard FGs.

SanAntonioSteelerFan
04-14-2013, 10:00 PM
"Contenders or Re-Building Mode?" ... FO gets together ... mumble, mumble, prudent, rebuild, mumble, mumble, Steeler way, Lambert, Bleier, mumble, mumble, no, yes ... Sanders signed!

CONTENDERS!!!

hawaiiansteel
04-14-2013, 10:16 PM
Actually, let's just get another punter.

maybe we can trade up for one this year...;-)

papillon
04-14-2013, 10:17 PM
Call it contending, rebuilding, or turning over the roster, but I call it a long season ahead.

Pappy

steelz09
04-14-2013, 10:18 PM
We are not contenders. If you think this team is "top tier" then you have serious Steelers blinders on. This team is barely the 3rd most talented in the division let alone the most talented in the league.

Come on folks... take those Steelers blinders off. This team is not a legit contender.

papillon
04-14-2013, 10:40 PM
We are not contenders. If you think this team is "top tier" then you have serious Steelers blinders on. This team is barely the 3rd most talented in the division let alone the most talented in the league.

Come on folks... take those Steelers blinders off. This team is not a legit contender.

Are they an illegitimate contender as opposed to a legit contender? :p

Pappy

hawaiiansteel
04-15-2013, 03:44 PM
After tumultuous offseason, Steelers need to recalibrate

By Alan Robinson
Published: Sunday, April 14, 2013

The Steelers played salary-cap roulette once again, furiously spinning their financial wheels by reworking contract after contract to get into NFL compliance. They watched Mike Wallace, Keenan Lewis and Rashard Mendenhall walk away in free agency.

They don't have a certifiable go-to receiver or a feature running back. The secondary is aging. Their former ace pass rusher, James Harrison, might oppose Ben Roethlisberger twice every season. And there are so many lineup holes, they can't possibly fill them in the upcoming draft.

And Roethlisberger, in a flashback to his rookie season of nine years ago, might find himself regularly throwing to Plaxico Burress, one of the few experienced receivers still left on the roster.

Did a team that is universally considered to be one of the NFL's best-managed falter this offseason?

“They've had some difficult decisions, and people are getting caught up in all the action,” said NFL Network analyst Jamie Dukes, a longtime NFL lineman. “But they're not looking just at this year even though I know Steelers fans don't want to hear it.”

Still, multiple draft analysts give the Steelers a grade of D-minus or F in free agency, where their only pickup of note was backup quarterback Bruce Gradkowski.

With so little coming in — although running back Ahmad Bradshaw remains an option — the Steelers might need the best draft of general manager Kevin Colbert's tenure to avoid taking a huge step back.

Asked if the Steelers are a worse team than they were when the season ended, Colbert said recently: “I think only time will tell. We'll see where that goes. ... We hope that we are a better team.”

Dukes said he believes they can't be faulted for letting Wallace walk for $60 million, or not paying Harrison, which he calls “a recalibration of a bad money year on a contract.

“I wouldn't say they're blowing the offseason,” Dukes said. “There are some organizations you question, but this would not be one of those organizations. They've got to get their house in order.”

The Steelers began last year to shed older players who command higher wages — such as James Farrior and Hines Ward and, now, Harrison — in favor of younger players who are more affordable and cap friendly.

It's a trend Dukes believes will continue.

“I don't look at what they're doing as a problem so much as it's a retooling,” he said.

http://triblive.com/sports/-topstories/3824493-74/steelers-dukes-season#ixzz2QYTB5ccn