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SanAntonioSteelerFan
03-26-2013, 11:50 PM
Surprised I haven't seen articles to that effect ... what are the sports radio stations saying?

Maybe he just needs a pair of gray sweats!

Siggy00
03-27-2013, 01:35 AM
Colbert gets a pass there. He's a Yinzer.

BigRob
03-27-2013, 01:43 AM
Colbert gets a pass there. He's a Yinzer.

A pass for what? Being a key architect of 3 Super Bowl appearances? He would be unemployed for about 2 minutes.

Siggy00
03-27-2013, 01:52 AM
A pass for what? Being a key architect of 3 Super Bowl appearances? He would be unemployed for about 2 minutes.

I didn't say he shouldn't be there. But the drafting lately has been poor for this team.

33 picks from 2006-2009 drafts. Only 6 players remain.

Mister Pittsburgh
03-27-2013, 07:43 AM
Pgh media treads lightly regarding the Steelers. Only Steelers I have seen the Pgh media get after are Ben, Wallace, and Mendy that I can recall.

D Rock
03-27-2013, 08:03 AM
I didn't say he shouldn't be there. But the drafting lately has been poor for this team.

33 picks from 2006-2009 drafts. Only 6 players remain.

and at least 7 more will be contributing players to a high degree somewhere else in the NFL.


That's not bad drafting, that's the results of extended success pushing a team up against the salary cap.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
03-27-2013, 10:58 AM
and at least 7 more will be contributing players to a high degree somewhere else in the NFL.


That's not bad drafting, that's the results of extended success pushing a team up against the salary cap.

Another by-product of extended success is that there are fewer spots available either in the starting lineup or the 45 man gameday roster.

One question I also have is this: Over the last 10 years, how many teams have had as much success bringing in UDFAs as the Steelers? This has been a huge key to success as they come in very cheap and if they contribute, they allow you to spend money elsewhere.

phillyesq
03-27-2013, 11:07 AM
Colbert gets a pass there. He's a Yinzer.

Ligashesky was the ultimate Yinzer and he did not get a pass from anybody.

BigRob
03-27-2013, 12:40 PM
I didn't say he shouldn't be there. But the drafting lately has been poor for this team.

33 picks from 2006-2009 drafts. Only 6 players remain.

I thought 2009 was an excellent draft, unfortunately we didn't keep two players who panned out from that draft.

I agree that it has been more miss than hit lately. I think last year's draft will end up being considered a good one.

phillyesq
03-27-2013, 01:07 PM
I thought 2009 was an excellent draft, unfortunately we didn't keep two players who panned out from that draft.

I agree that it has been more miss than hit lately. I think last year's draft will end up being considered a good one.

The best players from the 2009 class are probably Wallace, Lewis, Urbik and Ziggy Hood, in that order. Unfortunately, Ziggy is the only guy left with the Steelers. 2010 yielded Pouncey, Brown, Sanders and Worilds. And Dwyer.

The 2008 draft really hurts.

The drafts recently have been ok, but could have been better. One big decline for the Steelers has been in the mid rounds. Guys like Haggans, Porter, Aaron Smith, Deshea Townsend, Larry Foote and Hines Ward were all mid-round picks. Recently, the Steelers have not been as successful in pulling starters from the middle rounds. Add to that, the Steelers have used first round picks on non-premium positions on guys who have not yet been elite. Hood, Heyward and DD. I still hold out hope for DD, but Ziggy Hood is just a guy. If you are going to draft a guy at a non-premium position, he needs to be absolutely dominant, and Ziggy Hood is not. Though not an immeidate need, Hood was a need pick in the sense that a successor for Smith was going to be needed, and Orien Harris and Ryan McBean ended up as consecutive 4th round busts.

Mister Pittsburgh
03-27-2013, 01:08 PM
What UDFA have we had come in and do anything in the last 5 or 6 years?

Snatch98
03-27-2013, 01:13 PM
What UDFA have we had come in and do anything in the last 5 or 6 years?

So the bench mark for a successful GM is to hit on UDFA? Seriously? Right now we have Golden on the roster with some promise.

phillyesq
03-27-2013, 01:31 PM
What UDFA have we had come in and do anything in the last 5 or 6 years?

Last year they got Golden, Robinson and Butler. 2009 gave them Foster, Redman and McClendon. Patrick Bailey and Darnell Stapelton were 2008.

Slapstick
03-27-2013, 02:54 PM
Not to mention Legursky...

He was good at center...not so much at OG...

Mister Pittsburgh
03-27-2013, 03:19 PM
So the bench mark for a successful GM is to hit on UDFA? Seriously? Right now we have Golden on the roster with some promise.

Was responding to Steeler_fan_in_t.o.'s earlier post saying we pick up UDFA better than anyone. I said, who? The names mentioned above are hardly proof we have such great success with UDFA. Legursky and McLendon have been decent backups thats about it and I would make the assumption almost every other team in the league has one or two UDFA contribute in some modest way each year. The point I was making is we 'used to' hit on UDFA. Not so much the past half decade.

supersteeler
03-27-2013, 06:02 PM
The only thing the media is whispering is spring is here, but we still continue to see snow almost everyday:mad:

squidkid
03-27-2013, 06:08 PM
cant blame colbert for not developing, motivating or preparing the prospects that were drafted

Mister Pittsburgh
03-27-2013, 07:14 PM
cant blame colbert for not developing, motivating or preparing the prospects that were drafted

You also can't blame subpar talent they were evaluated wrong and picked in the wrong rounds, or at all.

Big Ern McCracken
03-27-2013, 07:51 PM
Not 100% sure what UDFA is referring to... but, if it means Undrafted Free Agent...

Will Johnson for sure. Arguably the most productive rookie of last year's class

hawaiiansteel
03-27-2013, 07:53 PM
Undrafted Free Agent?

Will Johnson for sure. Arguably the most productive rookie of last year's class

which unfortunately doesn't say a lot about the performance of last year's rookie draft class.

phillyesq
03-28-2013, 09:30 AM
Not 100% sure what UDFA is referring to... but, if it means Undrafted Free Agent...

Will Johnson for sure. Arguably the most productive rookie of last year's class

Good call. Missed him on my list above.

squidkid
03-28-2013, 01:58 PM
You also can't blame subpar talent they were evaluated wrong and picked in the wrong rounds, or at all.

yup, the more tomlin is involved in evaluting and drafting these players, without having the ability to develop and motivate, the steelerrs will continue to go backwards

hawaiiansteel
03-28-2013, 02:33 PM
this is a long but good article well worth reading about Colbert posted by kipper from the Pittsburgh Sports Forum...

http://www.pghsportsforum.com/forum/showthread.php/15531-Is-Kevin-Colbert-Lost-Without-Bill-Cowher-Holding-His-Hand?p=285452#post285452

Siggy00
03-28-2013, 02:53 PM
Oh F Kipper. Friggin' tard,

Used to own an anti-Nutting blog but then turned into a shill.

hawaiiansteel
03-28-2013, 02:57 PM
Oh F Kipper. Friggin' tard,

Used to own an anti-Nutting blog but then turned into a shill.

I know you don't like him, but that doesn't change the fact it's a well-written article.

Siggy00
03-28-2013, 02:57 PM
Kipper the retard wrote:

"From 2000-2006, this team was run the way Bill Cowher wanted it ran. He wanted that power, the Steeelers gave him that power"

Obviously, that's why Colbert traded up in 2003 to nab Troy so Cowher couldn't draft Alonzo Jackson in round 1 like he wanted, and why Dan Rooney basically pulled rank in 2004 to draft Ben when Cowher preferred Shawn Andrews.

The two most important players the last 10 years and "Power hungry" Bill Cowher didn't want either of them and was basically under-minded by superiors to make it happen.