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Rara
03-13-2013, 11:23 PM
Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora
OLB Victor Butler, who could be a diamond in the rough, is visiting the Steelers tomorrow. Several teams interested

I've been rather interested in the Steelers picking him up!! I know that I've gotten excited for every guy they brought in for a visit...but this guy is IT! 26 years old, cut by Dallas, this guy could be pretty legit as Harrison's replacement. PLEASE!!

Rara
03-13-2013, 11:30 PM
If they can get Butler in Free Agency...then I would be okay with going Wide Receiver in first round.

Shoe
03-13-2013, 11:36 PM
I don't know how you come to the conclusion that this guy "is IT", but I don't recall him much (I think Dallas is on TV enough to catch one's eye). I also referred back to his draft day write up, and he doesn't seem like anything special. What do you see in him?

Rara
03-13-2013, 11:46 PM
Watch his college highlights on youtube. He tied the team record of 4 sacks in one game..look at highlights when he played in Dallas. He played behind DeMarcus Ware.

You want to get more technical? James Farrior didn't do anything when he played for the Jets...we signed him and look how well he turned out for us. Like I said, Butler is only 25 (yeah, I posted he was 26 in my previous post..my bad)..could be a gem.

Chadman
03-14-2013, 02:00 AM
The fact that 'several teams are interested' probably puts him out of the Steelers financial reach.

supersteeler
03-14-2013, 07:44 AM
The fact that 'several teams are interested' probably puts him out of the Steelers financial reach.



I would think the amount of money they were going to pay Keenan Lewis would enable them to sign Butler with no problem.
Lewis most likely will sign with another team.
Butler is an OLB, Worlids is slated to start in place of James so I'm wondering if the Steelers do sign Butler would they move him to ILB?
Spense may never play again and Sylvester isn't signed so where is the backup to that position or depth?
At any rate this may be a good signing if they succeed in doing so.

Mister Pittsburgh
03-14-2013, 08:31 AM
I could live with losing Lewis if we could land a nice young pass rush OLB. Is he day one starter material, over Worilds?

Oviedo
03-14-2013, 08:57 AM
The fact that 'several teams are interested' probably puts him out of the Steelers financial reach.

This. We can't outbid anyone unless a player just really wnats to play for the Steelers.

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
03-14-2013, 09:06 AM
I think Lewis signs with NO before the day is out. Butler has the potential to be a "Ryan Clark" type of signing. A non household name that could flourish & become a star in this system.

Steelhere10
03-14-2013, 09:57 AM
No chance, he's too young and never played with us before it's not the Steelers MO.

Dee Dub
03-14-2013, 12:08 PM
Watch his college highlights on youtube. He tied the team record of 4 sacks in one game..look at highlights when he played in Dallas. He played behind DeMarcus Ware.

You want to get more technical? James Farrior didn't do anything when he played for the Jets...we signed him and look how well he turned out for us. Like I said, Butler is only 25 (yeah, I posted he was 26 in my previous post..my bad)..could be a gem.

What?? Talk about someone not doing their homework. James Farrior had 142 tackles for the Jets the year before he became a Steeler. I would hard think that would fall under the category of "not doing anything."

Rara
03-14-2013, 12:41 PM
What?? Talk about someone not doing their homework. James Farrior had 142 tackles for the Jets the year before he became a Steeler. I would hard think that would fall under the category of "not doing anything."

I would try hard to read before you send, if I were you.

BigRob
03-14-2013, 01:01 PM
Steelers to bring in OLB Victor Butler for a visit

In an offseason that's seen the Steelers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/pittsburgh-steelers) lose a third round pick from the 2009 draft (Mike Wallace (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/71118/mike-wallace)) and their first round pick in 2008 (Rashard Mendenhall (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/34448/rashard-mendenhall)), they may be in position to take a young player off another team.Cowboys (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/dallas-cowboys) outside linebacker Victor Butler (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/71553/victor-butler), a fourth-round pick in 2009, is set to visit the Steelers, (https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/312037064067657728) reported CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora via Twitter Wednesday.
La Canfora said "several teams" will be interested in Butler, who had three sacks and a forced fumble, appearing in all 16 of Dallas's games last season. Interest from other teams is intriguing, and while the Steelers have been fleeced out of a few of their new fourth-year free agents (with Keenan Lewis (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/71114/keenan-lewis), a college teammate of Butler's at Oregon State), it's tantalizing to think about signing someone else's.
Butler saw limited duty with the Cowboys, considering the talent they have at outside linebacker. He provided decent pressure when he was in there, but there are some concerns about the level of run support he's able to provide.
The Steelers had Dan Connor (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/34378/dan-connor) in for a visit recently, but no contract materialized out of it. Butler would be the second, and would be in position to compete for a starting position with Jason Worilds (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/108423/jason-worilds), and fill in for LaMarr Woodley (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/16799/lamarr-woodley) when he pulls a hamstring.

Dee Dub
03-14-2013, 01:09 PM
I would try hard to read before you send, if I were you.

Yeah I think you got the point. You didn't know much about James Farrior just like you dont really know much about Victor Butler. ;)

Mister Pittsburgh
03-14-2013, 07:49 PM
Did we bring him in today?

supersteeler
03-14-2013, 08:20 PM
Did we bring him in today?

He was supposed to arrive @ 5:00 tonight, we might know something later or by morning.

steelerkeylargo
03-14-2013, 08:38 PM
Discussing contract over dinner right now.

Captain Lemming
03-14-2013, 08:45 PM
No chance, he's too young and never played with us before it's not the Steelers MO.

we can always get Haggins

Rara
03-14-2013, 08:58 PM
Discussing contract over dinner right now.

Really? THATS GREAT! Hope it gets done! Beanie would just be a bonus

BradshawsHairdresser
03-14-2013, 10:16 PM
we can always get Haggins I hear Jason Gildon is looking to get back into action...

7 UP
03-14-2013, 10:36 PM
I hear Jason Gildon is looking to get back into action...

Two words. Jerry Olsavsky. Dude can play any LB spot. Might need a few months to get back in game shape.

hawaiiansteel
03-15-2013, 02:46 AM
Steelers to bring in OLB Victor Butler for a visit

By Neal Coolong on Mar 13 2013

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/9695919/150990432.0_standard_500.0.jpg

A teammate of cornerback Keenan Lewis's at Oregon State, Butler was a fourth round pick in 2009, and has performed fairly well in his time with Dallas.

In an offseason that's seen the Steelers lose a third round pick from the 2009 draft (Mike Wallace) and their first round pick in 2008 (Rashard Mendenhall), they may be in position to take a young player off another team.

Cowboys outside linebacker Victor Butler, a fourth-round pick in 2009, is set to visit the Steelers, reported CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora via Twitter Wednesday.

La Canfora said "several teams" will be interested in Butler, who had three sacks and a forced fumble, appearing in all 16 of Dallas's games last season. Interest from other teams is intriguing, and while the Steelers have been fleeced out of a few of their new fourth-year free agents (with Keenan Lewis, a college teammate of Butler's at Oregon State), it's tantalizing to think about signing someone else's.

Butler saw limited duty with the Cowboys, considering the talent they have at outside linebacker. He provided decent pressure when he was in there, but there are some concerns about the level of run support he's able to provide.

The Steelers had Dan Connor in for a visit recently, but no contract materialized out of it. Butler would be the second, and would be in position to compete for a starting position with Jason Worilds, and fill in for LaMarr Woodley when he pulls a hamstring.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/3/13/4102072/steelers-free-agency-victor-butler/in/3614167

Slapstick
03-15-2013, 06:20 AM
If we're looking for young players who played well in limited snaps, why not look at Larry Grant? Apparently Dan Connor didn't work out...

Mister Pittsburgh
03-15-2013, 07:22 AM
After letting Lewis walk for what seems like a cap friendly deal for the Saints, I hope we can land Butler. We need depth at OLB bad.

Slapstick
03-15-2013, 08:15 AM
After letting Lewis walk for what seems like a cap friendly deal for the Saints, I hope we can land Butler. We need depth at OLB bad.

It is cap friendly in the first year...

Slapstick
03-15-2013, 10:11 AM
BTW, I found this description of Victor Butler on foxsportssouthwest...


Butler is a very useful player. He is a speedy edge rusher and a great pursuit guy who seems to have a superior motor to just about anyone on the defense.

Sounds good for a weakside 3-4 OLB...

supersteeler
03-15-2013, 12:51 PM
Gerry: Steelers shouldn't let Victor Butler leave without a contract Friday, 15 March 2013 10:05 Written by Gerry Dulac Former Dallas Cowboys outside linebacker Victor Butler is visiting the Steelers today and they would be wise not to let him leave without his signature on a contract..

Not only is Butler being pursued by the Jets and the Saints, who have hired his former defensive coordinator in Dallas, Rob Ryan.

But he is a talented, up-and-coming outside edge rusher who just happened to be playing behind two Pro Bowlers with the Cowboys – DeMarcus Ware and Anthony Spencer.

Butler is 6-foot-2, 245 pounds and was a pass-rush specialist with the Cowboys. If nothing else, he would give the Steelers more depth on the outside; more important, he would certainly push Jason Worilds to be the replacement for James Harrison on the right side.


This guys is the only legitimate player I heard so far that could help our team now and maybe in in the future. Sign him instead of bringing in often injured players like wells.

Chadman
03-15-2013, 12:54 PM
Given the way things seem to be going this FA for the Steelers, grabbing a player like Butler would certainly not be a bad thing.

Not sure if they can financially, but if it's possible....they should certainly do their best to make it happen.

steelfin
03-15-2013, 01:02 PM
This guys is the only legitimate player I heard so far that could help our team now and maybe in in the future. Sign him instead of bringing in often injured players like wells.

+1...Agree with signing this guy and forgetting about the Wells experiment.

I say it wont take long for him to pass Worilds on the depth chart...

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
03-15-2013, 01:07 PM
If you sign Butler...Which I am in favor of....You can pass on OLB inside the Top 4 rounds imo.

Chadman
03-15-2013, 01:08 PM
If you sign Butler...Which I am in favor of....You can pass on OLB inside the Top 4 rounds imo.

Agreed.

And it doesn't give a great vote of confidence in Worilds.

Shawn
03-15-2013, 01:16 PM
Agreed.

And it doesn't give a great vote of confidence in Worilds.

Not so sure I agree. Who would we start if Worilds or Woodley go down? I say this signing is to push Worilds and for depth.

Dee Dub
03-15-2013, 01:53 PM
Not so sure I agree. Who would we start if Worilds or Woodley go down? I say this signing is to push Worilds and for depth.

I agree with you Shawn except I think Butler would be for depth and an early round OLB would be to push Worilds.

supersteeler
03-15-2013, 02:10 PM
Another senario if we sign Butler:

It's been said that Worlids is better suited to play on Woodley's side, let Butler and Worlids compete for replacing JH. Butler could possibly win out in that competition and then you have a solid backup to Woodley especially him and his injuries.
In either case is gives us better depth than we have now and wouldn't have to pull the trigger early on OLB when you need immediate help on the offense.

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
03-15-2013, 02:19 PM
Butler won't sign here for depth or depth money. He will be signed and battle Worilds for ROLB. We will get the best out of Worilds and see if he is worth a new contract. What this does is keep the heat on Woodley. Best case scenario, we end up with 3 starting caliber OLBs & one plays 2013 on the cheap. If Woodley doesn't meet expectations in 2013.....

supersteeler
03-15-2013, 02:30 PM
Butler won't sign here for depth or depth money. He will be signed and battle Worilds for ROLB. We will get the best out of Worilds and see if he is worth a new contract. What this does is keep the heat on Woodley. Best case scenario, we end up with 3 starting caliber OLBs & one plays 2013 on the cheap. If Woodley doesn't meet expectations in 2013.....

My point is in either senario we wind up with depth at the position, the loser of the competition becomes the backup. They aren't too thrilled with Carter either
Anyway, I think just about everyone here would agree signing Butler is a benefit to our LB corps

hawaiiansteel
03-15-2013, 02:49 PM
New Orleans Saints would be high target for LB Victor Butler if he leaves Steelers visit, source says

By Larry Holder, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune
March 14, 2013

The New Orleans Saints would be high on the target list for Cowboys free-agent linebacker Victor Butler if he leaves his Thursday visit with Pittsburgh without a contract, according to a source. The problem for the Saints is Butler may not leave Pittsburgh as the Steelers are pushing hard to land the 25-year-old linebacker.

New Orleans just agreed to terms with former Steelers cornerback Keenan Lewis on Thursday, but the hefty contract is salary-cap friendly this season as Lewis' cap number will only be $2.2 million. This means the Saints left themselves some wiggle room to acquire another piece for their defense.

The Saints are certainly looking for outside linebackers for their new 3-4 defensive scheme and Butler would fit the bill. Butler played under Saints defensive coordinator Rob Ryan the last two seasons in Dallas and would have a firm grasp of the system in New Orleans.

New Orleans was willing to spend money on linebacker Paul Kruger as the Saints finished runner-up to Cleveland to sign one of the top free-agent pass rushers.

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2013/03/new_orleans_saints_would_be_hi.html

Rara
03-15-2013, 03:48 PM
So what's the hold up...whats going on? Nothing can be found about how Butler's visit went.

Mister Pittsburgh
03-15-2013, 03:51 PM
Saw from Mark Kaboly of the Trib that Butler is meeting with them today and his flight out of town is at 5.

hawaiiansteel
03-15-2013, 03:53 PM
Steelers shouldn't let Victor Butler leave without a contract

by Gerry Dulac

Former Dallas Cowboys outside linebacker Victor Butler is visiting the Steelers today and they would be wise not to let him leave without his signature on a contract..

Not only is Butler being pursued by the Jets and the Saints, who have hired his former defensive coordinator in Dallas, Rob Ryan.

But he is a talented, up-and-coming outside edge rusher who just happened to be playing behind two Pro Bowlers with the Cowboys – DeMarcus Ware and Anthony Spencer.

Butler is 6-foot-2, 245 pounds and was a pass-rush specialist with the Cowboys. If nothing else, he would give the Steelers more depth on the outside; more important, he would certainly push Jason Worilds to be the replacement for James Harrison on the right side.

http://sulia.com/channel/pittsburgh-...source=twitter

Mister Pittsburgh
03-15-2013, 03:59 PM
My guess is we don't sign him. We are only like 3 million under the cap right?

supersteeler
03-15-2013, 04:19 PM
The Steelers are approximately $3 million under the $123 million salary cap. They will pick up another $5.5 million in cap space June 1 because of the release of guard Willie Colon, but that money is likely being designated to sign their draft picks.

Looks like Butler left the building.....for good!

Siggy00
03-15-2013, 04:23 PM
Why don't they ask Head and Shoulders to take a pay cut?

Mister Pittsburgh
03-15-2013, 05:07 PM
All 3 FA's we entertained left complex without contract discussions.

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/three-visiting-free-agents-leave-steelers-without-contracts-679476/

Siggy00
03-15-2013, 05:09 PM
Butler was the one they needed to grab.

We're done. 6-10 if we insist on the Rooney/Haley Way

Mister Pittsburgh
03-15-2013, 05:22 PM
Hard to say we will improve on 8-8 only relying on draft picks...especially if you look at Tomlin's drafts. I think I read that only 3 of 33 players drafted between 2006 and 2009 are still one the team.

Rara
03-15-2013, 05:35 PM
That really sucks...Really bums me out that Butler isn't signing with us.

pittpete
03-15-2013, 06:18 PM
Butler was the one they needed to grab.

We're done. 6-10 if we insist on the Rooney/Haley Way

Maybe you do it to get a rise out of people but your posts are pure garbage.
You add nothing positive to this board.
What a waste of the web

Siggy00
03-15-2013, 06:48 PM
Maybe you do it to get a rise out of people but your posts are pure garbage.
You add nothing positive to this board.
What a waste of the web

What's to be positive about? We let Wallace go, Sanders is on the way, and we've done nothing but sign bargain priced crap.

David Johnson? C'mon, what does he add to this team?

This was exactly why they needed to not switch offenses. You had Sanders and AB entering their crucial 3rd seasons, and what happened? Everything they learned for two years was thrown out the window.

And for what? Because Art wants to play games with the most important player on his team.

Wasted a prime season of Ben, and now a major overhaul is happening anyway.

If you call that positive? I feel sorry for you.

pittpete
03-16-2013, 03:07 AM
Don't feel sorry for me.
What would you have done because you seem to be so smart?
I'd love to hear it.
We let Wallace go?
Are you blind and deaf.
He wanted the big $$$.
Where the f_ck were they suppossed to get it from?
Sanders is an average WR, I'll take the 3rd pick from the Pats.
We lost a 35 year old OLB with an inflated salary coming off a knee and 2 spine surgeries
We got rid of a malcontent in Mendenhall
I was surprised we didn't sign Lewis, but I'd rather trust the guys who've been doing this for a living, then some schmuck on a message board screaming the sky is falling.
Did you ever think our OL might be set for the next few years with some really young talent?
You really think Woodley's gonna come to camp out of shape after this past season?
How the hell do our draft picks get a chance if we don't give them one?
Worilds might just surprise some people this year.
Troy could play 16 games and be healthy.
Cortez could make us forget about Lewis with his 1 career INT.
Imagine if we get some offensive studs in the first few rounds and are actually in camp to work with Haley?
Stop your crying and biatching ya drama queen.
Ya never know until ya do

Siggy00
03-16-2013, 11:39 AM
I was surprised we didn't sign Lewis, but I'd rather trust the guys who've been doing this for a living

Again, 33 picks from 2006-2009. 6 still with the team and 3 were just brought back.

From the guys you "trust" so much.

Don't blame me son, the facts speak for themselves.

pittpete
03-16-2013, 12:26 PM
Yes and we have suffered so much during that time right?
Son, that makes me laugh.
The sky is falling, the sky is falling!
One of the best franchises in all of sports never mind the NFL, remember that son...

Siggy00
03-16-2013, 05:08 PM
We're suffering NOW.

Remember this, BEFORE the Steelers lucked into a COIN TOSS and got Bradshaw, the "Rooney Way" won NOTHING for 40 years.

Then when Bradshaw quit, they won NOTHING from 1983-2003.

Ben arrives, they win 2 more rings, and they only got him because the Manning's are douches, and the Browns and Raiders are incompetent.

Unless this team realizes WHY they win, and HOW they need to win. We'll be the Cleveland Browns in 2 seasons.

zachintosh66
03-16-2013, 08:35 PM
This would be nice... but doesnt look like its prolly going to happen

Rara
03-16-2013, 11:12 PM
I am thinking that Victor Butler hasn't signed with the Saints because its the weekend. I still feel there is a little chance of him coming back and signing with the Steelers. All time will tell.

Bluto
03-23-2013, 06:52 PM
Per KFFL. Butler left New Orleans without a contract and will meet with Cleveland on Monday.. That may be his spot. They may have the cash to throw at him. Groves I believe is gonna play inside so he could be on the other side of Kugler.

hawaiiansteel
03-23-2013, 07:04 PM
Per KFFL. Butler left New Orleans without a contract and will meet with Cleveland on Monday.. That may be his spot. They may have the cash to throw at him. Groves I believe is gonna play inside so he could be on the other side of Kugler.

what about Jabaal Sheard, are the Browns giving up on him already?

Bluto
03-23-2013, 07:09 PM
what about Jabaal Sheard, are the Browns giving up on him already?

Forgot about probably there best Def player in Sheard. Yaeh think his chances may be better with us or NO.

Siggy00
03-23-2013, 07:47 PM
Sheard plays both OLB and DE for them.

Bluto
03-23-2013, 09:04 PM
Sheard plays both OLB and DE for them.
NOw they are going to 3-4 dont think he can play DE end with hand in ground. He will be OLB.

Rara
03-23-2013, 10:32 PM
Any chance he comes back here, perhaps?

hawaiiansteel
03-23-2013, 11:37 PM
Any chance he comes back here, perhaps?

sure, but he needs to lower his asking price:

Trib's @MarkKaboly_Trib just told me on @937theFan that Victor Butler is commanding 5-5.5M and #Steelers might only want to pay about 3.5M

https://twitter.com/MarkKaboly_Trib/...23004697722880

thor75
03-24-2013, 01:51 PM
If those reports are correct, that seems awfully high for someone who has not started on a regular basis.

BradshawsHairdresser
03-24-2013, 06:30 PM
If those reports are correct, that seems awfully high for someone who has not started on a regular basis.
Perhaps that's why the Steelers and Saints both passed on him. Bad news is, the Clowns have a lot of money to spend, so they may just spend it. Otherwise? He may come back around.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
03-26-2013, 12:23 AM
Perhaps that's why the Steelers and Saints both passed on him. Bad news is, the Clowns have a lot of money to spend, so they may just spend it. Otherwise? He may come back around.

Thats ok. We like it when stupid teams overpay for mediocre talent.

hawaiiansteel
03-26-2013, 02:54 AM
Butler rebuffs Browns, heads to Philly

Posted by Mike Florio on March 25, 2013

http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/victor-butler1.jpg?w=250

The Victor Butler tour continues, with no end in sight. And Butler’s journey has now taken him back to Pennsylvania.

According to Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Butler wrapped up a visit to the Browns without signing a contract. He’ll now head to Philadelphia for a visit with the Eagles.

Butler, a free agent who started his career with the Cowboys, started his effort to find a new team with a trip to see the Steelers. He also has visited the Saints.

The obvious conclusion is that Butler wants more money than anyone has offered.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/25/butler-rebuffs-browns-heads-to-philly/

SidSmythe
03-26-2013, 08:46 AM
I guess this guy has been stuck behind WARE and SPENCER???

Rara
03-26-2013, 10:45 AM
Yeah....this is crazy. I'm starting to lose interest in getting this guy now.

phillyesq
03-27-2013, 09:16 AM
He also left the Eagles without a deal.

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
03-27-2013, 10:19 AM
As the days tick down to the draft Butler's price will come down. He was trolling the teams and nobody bit.

Signing Butler at that 3.5 would be a pretty good deal for the Steelers. You let him & Worilds battle it out for ROLB and the loser backs up both. Just consider that Butler isn't a reflection of what they think if Worilds. If they sign nobody and Woodley or Worilds goes down, you could have Carter, Robinson, and a rookie to turn to. THEY NEED competition at OLB in the worst way. Woodley needs to be looking over his shoulder everyday and they need to get everything out of Worilds and crew to replace Harrison.

BradshawsHairdresser
03-27-2013, 10:47 AM
Just consider that Butler isn't a reflection of what they think if Worilds. If they sign nobody and Woodley or Worilds goes down, you could have Carter, Robinson, and a rookie to turn to. THEY NEED competition at OLB in the worst way. Woodley needs to be looking over his shoulder everyday and they need to get everything out of Worilds and crew to replace Harrison. $$$$$$$$$$$$$

hawaiiansteel
03-28-2013, 02:00 PM
Victor Butler chooses the Saints

Posted by Darin Gantt on March 28, 2013

The Victor Across America Tour has ended, as Cowboys outside linebacker Victor Butler has chosen a team.

According to Adam Schefter of ESPN, Butler ended his free agent tour by picking the Saints.

Butler had also visited the Steelers, Browns and Eagles, but chose to reunite with Saints defensive coordinator Rob Ryan.

Butler was an effective sub, with 11.0 sacks in four seasons, but he was stuck behind DeMarcus Ware and Anthony Spencer in Dallas. The Saints can offer him more play-time, as they’re desperately looking for pass-rush help as they transition to a 3-4.

Having Butler around should help Ryan install his system as well.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/28/victor-butler-chooses-the-saints/

thor75
03-28-2013, 04:09 PM
kinda of where we all figured....

phillyesq
03-28-2013, 05:08 PM
I wonder what the money ended up being.

hawaiiansteel
06-13-2013, 02:20 AM
Victor Butler injury creates problem for Saints, NFL

Posted by Mike Florio on June 12, 2013

This was supposed to be linebacker Victor Butler’s chance to emerge from the shadows. Instead, he’ll stay there at least for another year.

Butler, expected to become a sack-happy outside linebacker in Rob Ryan’s defense with the Saints, tore an ACL on Tuesday after colliding knees with running back Mark Ingram.

While the contact in the supposedly non-contact practice wasn’t intentional, it still happened. And it raises questions about the tempo of these sessions. If the players are moving so quickly that one of them can tear an ACL simply via an accidental collision, they’re arguably moving too quickly, and practicing too intensely.

All players and teams would benefit from further guidance and negotiation from the league and the NFLPA. This year, too many players are suffering serious injuries during non-contact practices, and now the Saints have to scramble to replace Butler.

The current thinking is that Martez Wilson and Junior Galette will get more chances to shine. The Saints also could scan the waiver wire as rosters move from 90 to 53.

The Saints surely would prefer to have Butler. Every team needs to ask itself whether the benefit that arises from close-to-full-speed non-contact practices outweighs the risk of losing key players for the season. The league needs to ask itself whether the only way that will happen is via the application of limits that apply to everyone.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/12/victor-butler-injury-creates-problem-for-saints-nfl/

Sugar
06-13-2013, 01:54 PM
Looks like they shoulda signed Deebo when they had the chance.

Rara
06-14-2013, 01:10 AM
Glad to see we didn't make the mistake of not signing Butler.

Shoe
06-14-2013, 01:20 AM
What a stupid inflammatory article. It wasn't non-contact--thats the bottom line. As if colliding knees couldn't happen at half-speed.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
06-14-2013, 02:31 AM
I'm just happy we will not ever hear after a game "if we would have signed Butler.....look what he did today......"

RuthlessBurgher
06-15-2013, 10:35 AM
At least this happened after the draft, or else New Orleans may have drafted Jarvis Jones at #15 instead of Kenny Vaccaro.