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Mister Pittsburgh
03-01-2013, 04:51 PM
Big Ben: Steelers locker room is perfectly fine
3/1/2013 12:00:00 AM
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Ben Roethlisberger said he has heard enough, and it's time to put an end to it. The perception created by a few of his teammates that the Steelers locker room was in disarray last season just is not true, the quarterback insisted, and someone needed to say it.


So why not the veteran quarterback, the captain of the offense?


"For anybody to say there are locker room issues or leadership issues are completely off base," Roethlisberger said Thursday, shortly after he signed a restructured contract to create $6 million of salary cap room for the Steelers in 2013.


"I believe that's the frustration. I believe that it's frustration of last year, I honestly do."


Over the past two weeks, several Steelers commented on one anonymous teammate's criticism of LaMarr Woodley by saying it showed a schism among them in 2012. Ryan Clark said there was a "fracture" in the locker room. Antonio Brown said: "It goes to show you that we wasn't a team in 2012." A few others chimed in with milder comments seemingly agreeing with Clark and Brown.


Enough is enough, Roethlisberger told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:


"Obviously, last year was frustrating for all of us, and when you're frustrated and the season doesn't go the way you want it to and things don't go the way you want them to, things are said. I know all too well, after the Dallas game I was frustrated and said some things.


"The important thing to know is, there are no issues in our locker room. There are no issues with LaMarr. There are no issues on our team.


"The big thing for us is to move forward. Last year was last year, it was 8-8. We're not happy about it. There are frustrations, but you know what? We're done with it. We're moving forward and we're moving into this year ... with whoever's here, we're looking to move forward. And we know Woodley's going to be here and we know Woodley's going to be ready to go as we all are going to be."


The comment by the anonymous Steelers player appeared in Ron Cook's Post-Gazette column Feb. 17 about Woodley: "He was awful. He tells us he works out, but we didn't see it. He wasn't in shape. That has to be a reason why he was always hurt."


Clark and Brown turned that comment into a discussion on the "fracture" that was the locker room, sparking a new topic by going on sports television shows to talk about the so-called disconnect. Brown, a three-year veteran who was the team's MVP in 2011, even questioned the leadership on the Steelers.


Roethlisberger was adamant none of that is true.


"I want to make sure people know there is no issue in our locker room," Roethlisberger stated. "We've got great leadership. We have plenty of older guys -- myself now, Ike Taylor, Larry Foote, Willie Colon, Brett Keisel, Casey Hampton -- we have a ton of guys.


"The great thing is we have a lot of young guys stepping up as leaders -- Maurkice Pouncey, and, I feel last year Keenan Lewis did a great job stepping up; Woodley, Lawrence Timmons, all kinds of guys.


"I want it to be known there is no locker room issue, there is no leadership issue. Even if guys say it out of frustration, they're trying to find something to say. I think it's important to know we all have each other's back."


Hines Ward, one year into retirement, even joined the bandwagon, claiming the locker room was in "total disarray" last season. Roethlisberger took note of that without mentioning Ward by name.


"I know we've been criticized by past players for not having leadership, but we have great leadership in our locker room -- offense, defense, all over the place.


"I don't think it's because of a lack of leadership, I think it's because of frustration. We had an 8-8 year. The last time we were 8-8 was my third year. There were probably some things in that offseason that were said because of frustration.


"I've been around a lot of the guys, I've seen a lot of the guys, there are no issues. It's about moving forward, it's not harping on guys working out from last year. Nobody cares about last year anymore. We've talked about last year, we've put it in our rear-view mirror, now it's about moving forward."


Roethlisberger said that with a locker room with so many players -- 53 on the active roster, plus practice squad players and some on injured reserve -- things never go smoothly, regardless of the win-loss record. He saw nothing different last season than in any of his past eight with the Steelers.


"No matter how the season goes, there's always going to be some kind of issue come up. There's never perfect harmony in any locker room, never. There's always going to be some issue at some point in the year, that's how it works. But the thing is, how do you move on from it? These things should be put in the rear-view mirror and we should be looking forward.


"I'm hoping by doing this to put a stop to it, to say, listen, everybody, as a leader in this locker room, as a guy who has been around here for a long time, I'm hoping that by saying there is no issue and this is fine, that this could be our exclamation point. Let's move on with this offseason, to training, to getting ready. I don't think there's a reason to look back anymore.


"That's what I'm hoping to just say: Done."


Quick hits
Wide receiver Steve Breaston, who played at Woodland Hills High School, visited the Steelers Thursday and took a physical. He became a free agent when Kansas City released him Feb. 19. There was no word on whether negotiations have begun to try to sign him. ... With Roethlisberger, Timmons and Brown's restructured contracts, the Steelers should be close to the $14 million they needed to erase from their salary cap by March 12 to be in compliance with the league. ... The Steelers were the only team to claim quarterback John Wilson, 27, off waivers from the Jacksonville Jaguars and he was awarded to them Thursday.


For more on the Steelers, read the blog, Ed Bouchette on the Steelers at www.post-gazette.com/plus. Ed Bouchette: ebouchette@post-gazette.com and Twitter @EdBouchette.

ikestops85
03-01-2013, 05:18 PM
Way to go Big Ben ... I love it!! :Beer

lloydroid
03-01-2013, 05:25 PM
Of course Bonehead Ben says the locker room is fine, because he is part of the problem as to why it's jacked up to begin with. The lazy, sloppy non-leader is partly why there is bad chemistry to begin with.

Sugar
03-01-2013, 05:49 PM
First Ben helps the team with the restructure. Then he shows some real leadership with his comments here. Way to go big guy! I have to admit that I liked the (not so) subtle jab at Hines.

Slapstick
03-01-2013, 08:54 PM
The lazy, sloppy non-leader is partly why there is bad chemistry to begin with.

The message board is fine...don't be so hard on yourself....

lloydroid
03-01-2013, 10:47 PM
The message board is fine...don't be so hard on yourself....

Well, the message board might be fine, but the Steelers aren't.

skyhawk
03-02-2013, 12:20 AM
Of course Bonehead Ben says the locker room is fine, because he is part of the problem as to why it's jacked up to begin with. The lazy, sloppy non-leader is partly why there is bad chemistry to begin with.

Wow. I knew this was coming. I read the story and thought I would see your post saying just this!! ;)

williar
03-02-2013, 06:38 PM
Child Please!!! Typical media/fan manipulation comments from Ben, trying to send a message through the media. I bet he hasn't talked to any of his teammates since the end of the season and I doubt any of them honestly perceive him to be the leader he is trying to portray. Actions speak louder than words. Attempting to try sweep the locker room problems under the rug surely isn't going to resolve anything. Sorry, but I believe Brown, Clark, Ward, anonymous player, etc. What I saw in the overall poor attitude, underperforming and lack of focus this team displayed closing out the season spoke volumes. Nice try, Ben..

supersteeler
03-02-2013, 06:55 PM
Ben said, some of his teammates made statements out of frustration, I guess people don't want to hear the truth. I'm with you Williar, there is some truth to what Clark, and Brown stated.
Take the SanDiego game which I thought was our worse loss all season, Keisel came out public with the truth.....they wern't ready to play.
How in the hell can you beat the SB champs one week and lay an egg the next @ home to boot. Keisel was telling it like it is and so are the players who commented on the locker room.

Sugar
03-02-2013, 09:29 PM
I really think it's just a matter of frustration, like Ben said. There are a lot of negative vibes when you don't meet expectations.

flippy
03-02-2013, 09:59 PM
Ben's always said the perfect thing since he was drafted. And guys have always said he wasn't the best teammate or leader. So I wouldn't be surprised if Ben has good intentions, is trying to be a leader in his own way, and is trying to rationalize some of the stuff as not a big deal.

And from Ben's perspective, it's probably not a big deal. And this is probably why guys don't perceive him to be a leader because I doubt the other guys are making stuff up. And Ben comes off as set apart from the others guys on the team a bit.

I don't think anyone means any ill will here. Everyone perceives things the way they perceive them. There's the Ben way and then the everybody else way.

williar
03-02-2013, 10:36 PM
Honestly! I wished they would all stfu....... If Ben wants to lead, LEAD! Have a meeting at your house. Work a little closer with your teammates during the offseason. Conduct yourself in a manner in which your teammates will respect and want to follow you. I would have loved if Ben would have acknowledged that there were some problems and he and his guys are going to work dilligently during this offseason to correct some things and work on team chemistry. But all of this grandstanding, telling me the sky is green crap, is fruitless!

NJ-STEELER
03-02-2013, 11:46 PM
hines takjing about locker room struggles

color me 'surprised'
lol

LordVile
03-03-2013, 01:14 AM
ben takes a stand and he gets bashed?? Colbert says there aren't major problems back there. guess heez lying too huh? Hines was blowing smoke up his own arse.. Ben admits some things are said out of frustration.. No locker room is puppy dogs and flowers all the time.. but some of you just like to BITCHH like women do.... grow a set..

LordVile
03-03-2013, 01:16 AM
No one knows what Ben does or doesn't do behind the scenes nor any other player. some of you just like to make whatever up that suits ur POV.. day time soap opera..

NJ-STEELER
03-03-2013, 12:35 PM
ben takes a stand and he gets bashed?? Colbert says there aren't major problems back there. guess heez lying too huh? Hines was blowing smoke up his own arse.. Ben admits some things are said out of frustration.. No locker room is puppy dogs and flowers all the time.. but some of you just like to BITCHH like women do.... grow a set..

perfectly said

Mister Pittsburgh
03-03-2013, 01:17 PM
One thing I am still waiting to hear Ben say is something along the lines of embracing Haley's offense, being excited to get back to work because they were doing good things in that offense, second year in that offense things should be more fluid...something of that nature....

williar
03-03-2013, 02:13 PM
If Ben was half the leader that he is now trying to conveniently portray himself as, the locker room wouldn't be in this much disarray and players wouldn't be speaking out so recklessly, as they are. I don't know what Ben does but I can tell you if he was doing anything as far as helping and leading his team, you bet he would be telling the world about it as he always does.

Sugar
03-03-2013, 02:13 PM
ben takes a stand and he gets bashed?? Colbert says there aren't major problems back there. guess heez lying too huh? Hines was blowing smoke up his own arse.. Ben admits some things are said out of frustration.. No locker room is puppy dogs and flowers all the time.. but some of you just like to BITCHH like women do.... grow a set..

This= $$$$

lloydroid
03-03-2013, 02:38 PM
If Ben was half the leader that he is now trying to conveniently portray himself as, the locker room wouldn't be in this much disarray and players wouldn't be speaking out so recklessly, as they are. I don't know what Ben does but I can tell you if he was doing anything as far as helping and leading his team, you bet he would be telling the world about it as he always does.

It is Ben's nature to down play any negatives as all little stuff he can overcome with his late game drive to win a ball game. One of the major components in all this is that Ben can no longer be counted for game-winning drives anymore. Starting with the SB vs. GB he has failed to deliver. All he needed to do in order to make last season a play off year was to win just ONE game vs. EITHER Cinci or Dallas and he hell short. In both cases, the game was right there to the taking and he didn't deliver. Worse yet, he threw game-losing pics at the end of both games; he was the opposite of clutch - he was FAIL.

Now, you can live with a cocky, lazy, screw ball teammate who always delivers in the clutch. Even if he is a jackass, you tend to live with it if he is Mr. Clutch. But once that same arrogant guy starts not pulling off wins in the clutch, all of a sudden, you resent his annoying traits more and more. All of a sudden, the "what me worry" persona isn't cute anymore, because the rest of the team knows something is broken and the bonehead, carefree "gunslinger" is irritating. They no longer can count on him to pull wins out, so his downplaying the issues isn't cool any more. And unless he finds his clutch gene again, it might never get truly fixed. Men will follow leaders of men, but they won't follow a guy who is undisciplined, arrogant and cocky who no longer produces. We don't know how this will fall, but it should get interesting and possibly frustrating.

feltdizz
03-03-2013, 08:44 PM
Its obvious the locker room had some problems... last year wasnt the norm so its no surprise the team is a little off.

Not sure Ben coming in after the fact means its the truth...

Does anyone truly believe the team didnt lack leadership? Heck, we had rifts with Hines, JH and Ben during good times...

lloydroid
03-04-2013, 06:42 PM
Its obvious the locker room had some problems... last year wasnt the norm so its no surprise the team is a little off.

Not sure Ben coming in after the fact means its the truth...

Does anyone truly believe the team didnt lack leadership? Heck, we had rifts with Hines, JH and Ben during good times...

It was obvious to me they were not "together" last season. The win in Balt. gave me hope that they had found their way, but, alas, with the weak showing vs. Cinci and Dallas, needing to just win ONE of those games to make the post season, they hadn't got the mess sorted out. But, in 2005, they found their chemistry late that season to win it all, so I thought it was still possible. But we didn't have a "win one for the Bus" to aid in our focus last year. I think Ben is somewhat of a phony and that helps add to the poor unity issue. You have players who sell out to do everything to win, and then you have the aloof Ben, who just slops his way around with a frat boy mentality like he is playing flag football with a keg on the sidelines. Those who take it more seriously do not buy into the "gun slinger" mentality. When he is playing clutch ball, pulling out Ws, that made up for his undisciplined manner in which he operates, but now that he has lost his clutch gene, his act no longer flies with half of the team.

SanAntonioSteelerFan
03-05-2013, 08:05 PM
I don't know if Ben has great leadership skills or not, I'm not in the locker room and neither is anyone else on this board (right? Or ... , nah, no way!).

What I do know is that Ben's boss said there weren't problems, and then Ben went out and said the right thing after that. He could have stayed STFU, but he didn't. So, I think that alone is a real plus. Maybe's he's not John Wayne, but he's trying to do the right thing for the team. That deserves some respect. Whether he did it in the way that some people wish he did or not is besides the point, as I see it anyway.

Sugar
03-05-2013, 08:07 PM
I don't know if Ben has great leadership skills or not, I'm not in the locker room and neither is anyone else on this board (right? Or ... , nah, no way!).

What I do know is that Ben's boss said there weren't problems, and then Ben went out and said the right thing after that. He could have stayed STFU, but he didn't. So, I think that alone is a real plus. Maybe's he's not John Wayne, but he's trying to do the right thing for the team, that deserves some respect, as I see it anyway.

Agreed. He basically just backed what management said.