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flippy
02-12-2013, 01:54 PM
I heard the NFL is considering making the field 35 feet wider a la the CFL.

What do yinz think?

I say do it. And why stop there? Why not make it 70 or 135 feet wider. Not only will it reduce collisions, but it would incent teams to find smaller and more athletic players which might also help reduce collisions.

Next year we can discuss flags instead of tackling.

Oviedo
02-12-2013, 01:57 PM
I think that 35 yards to probably too much but I think 20 yards is a great idea. I've been saying this for years for both Football and hockey. The players are so much bigger and faster that the way to limit the congestion and physical contact is to make more space.

squidkid
02-12-2013, 04:49 PM
I think that 35 yards to probably too much but I think 20 yards is a great idea. I've been saying this for years for both Football and hockey. The players are so much bigger and faster that the way to limit the congestion and physical contact is to make more space.

OR make the field much smaller and players wont have the space to get to full speed for the huge hits

flippy
02-12-2013, 10:31 PM
I think that 35 yards to probably too much but I think 20 yards is a great idea. I've been saying this for years for both Football and hockey. The players are so much bigger and faster that the way to limit the congestion and physical contact is to make more space.

It was 35 feet or about 12 yards. I was thinking double that (or about the 20 yards you mention) being even better.

I'd love if NHL hockey had more room. I like the extra space behind the net in the international games.

pittpete
02-12-2013, 10:49 PM
Why doesn't the NFL stop changing things

Djfan
02-12-2013, 11:24 PM
Why doesn't the NFL stop changing things

Thank you. I have been having a hard time watching lately. The game is so not what I fell in love with as a boy. Let a great thing be great and leave it alone!!!!

Really sick of the Goodell era.

supersteeler
02-12-2013, 11:51 PM
I would favor leaving well enought alone.

All thats going to do is increase scores making it even more difficult to play defense. More ground to cover will wear out defenders by the fourth quarter or sooner, and the days of 250 lb LB's would be over as they couldn't run down a play on a consistent basis.
Everything they did since the Super Steelers of the seventies was make playing defense almost criminal starting with the Mel Blount rule and now fining a player even when a hit was unavoidable.

Yeah, widen the field and have basketball scores, give me a break.

Defense is a part of playing football, watered down defense will ruin a game we all love, lets not go there. They keep this nonsense up and they can rename the NFL to the AFF....ALL FAKE FOOTBALL!

Mister Pittsburgh
02-13-2013, 02:53 AM
I favor 15 yard penalties and fines for offensive players that lower their heads when the defender is in the imminent contact zone. Take your safety into your wn hands instead of looking to draw penalties.

SS Laser
02-13-2013, 02:58 AM
I would favor leaving well enought alone.

All thats going to do is increase scores making it even more difficult to play defense. More ground to cover will wear out defenders by the fourth quarter or sooner, and the days of 250 lb LB's would be over as they couldn't run down a play on a consistent basis.
Everything they did since the Super Steelers of the seventies was make playing defense almost criminal starting with the Mel Blount rule and now fining a player even when a hit was unavoidable.

Yeah, widen the field and have basketball scores, give me a break.

Defense is a part of playing football, watered down defense will ruin a game we all love, lets not go there. They keep this nonsense up and they can rename the NFL to the AFF....ALL FAKE FOOTBALL!

Yep he said it all for me! Thank you sir!:Agree

flippy
02-13-2013, 07:36 AM
Thank you. I have been having a hard time watching lately. The game is so not what I fell in love with as a boy. Let a great thing be great and leave it alone!!!!

Really sick of the Goodell era.

I had it when people stopped dying in the Roman Colesseum. We've sissified fighting down to boxing or cage fighting. They have rules and gloves and breaks. C'mon man. Biggest wuss sport on the planet. Before long men will only be allowed to dance fight.

Oviedo
02-13-2013, 08:46 AM
Thank you. I have been having a hard time watching lately. The game is so not what I fell in love with as a boy. Let a great thing be great and leave it alone!!!!

Really sick of the Goodell era.

And the game you fell in love with is not the game your grandfather fell in love with. The NFL has always been evolving and changing. We just can't get past ourselves to take a look at it in a historical context because we think the here and now are the beat all to end all.

BradshawsHairdresser
02-13-2013, 09:31 AM
Widen the field...eliminate kickoffs and punts...make it two-hand touch instead of tackle (but no "hard" touching, and no touching the face or the privates;Goodell has to have something to fine)...no running the ball on offense and no rushing the QB on defense...6 downs instead of 4...every player on offense is an eligible receiver...make it mandatory that every team has three chicks playing on the field at all times, dressed in skimpy attire...and while we're at it, let's change the name, because "football" is so yesterday...

Come on. This is all nuts...let's quit messing with a game that was, a few years ago, the best one going.

papillon
02-13-2013, 09:42 AM
Personally, I don't like the game as much as I used to when I was younger. I didn't like the Mel Blount rule, I hate the Hines Ward rule, the no bumping after 5 yards is pathetic and almost impossible to officiate because it is subjective, I don't like not being able to hit the quarterback except above the waist and below the shoulders (things happen in an NFL game) and I hate instant replay, but there aren't enough people turning off football games and so, we get the current NFL. I'm sure Goodell has hired research firms to do demographic studies to find out who likes what about the game and the newer fans love offense and the older fans love their defense.

The defensive minded fans will either have to wathc or not watch; me, personally, unless the Steelers are playing, I don't watch, unless there is nothing else to do. It was never that way, in the past I couldn't wait for Sunday to sit down and watch football all day, that probably hasn't happened in 15 years. I can't change what they want to do; I can only change my entertainment habits and I've done just that.

That all being said, of course, I'm not for widening the field and giving even more free reign to the offense. In my estimation it's time to put some teeth back in the defense, either by calling holding on pass plays a little tighter or allowing cornerbacks more than 5 yards to get a receiver off his route, nothing major, just subtle enough to make it a more level playing field.

In the end, the NFL will do, what they want, regardless, of whether I like it or not. I'm certain that if I weren't born and raised in Pittsburgh I wouldn't be a football fan all by now.

Pappy

Djfan
02-13-2013, 10:14 AM
We just can't get past ourselves to take a look at it in a historical context because we think the here and now are the beat all to end all.


I like football. That bother you??

What's your game of late Ovi? You on a mission to change me or something? I like football the way it was, not is, and I don't feel my grandpa's emotions about it, and I don't care about your views of history or yourself importance, or whatever stick is up your butt for my posts.

Get over me and yourself. I don't like it. Get it?

pfelix73
02-13-2013, 10:48 AM
I wouldn't have a problem with it if they decided to widen the field 30 feet or so. I do have a problem with some of the other changes they want to make or have made in the past. Agreed that Goodell needs to go. These fines, etc. that he arbitrarily imposes on players and coaches must be done in a different way. I don't like the idea they were passing around regarding the kickoffs and just placing the ball on the 25 or whatever.

I do however think that maybe since they are heavily favoring the offenses now, that maybe a 1st and 15 instead of a 1st and 10 might be an idea worth exploring. Also, none of spot foul crap for PI. 15 yds like college....

feltdizz
02-13-2013, 01:10 PM
Don't change a thing... well, improve or require the best equipment for the players and make every helmet have a shock sensor that tells team doctors when a player has head trauma.

papillon
02-13-2013, 02:45 PM
Don't change a thing... well, improve or require the best equipment for the players and make every helmet have a shock sensor that tells team doctors when a player has head trauma.

For linemen that would be every play or close to it. I have to believe that every collision a lineman has is dangerous to his cognitive abilities later in life. The accumulation of these mini-concussions during a game make it difficult to determine when enough is enough for a lineman, because it is cumulative and not one big blow to the head.

I just don't know how you make the game safer and still have it be football. weight limits? widen the field? no kickoffs? shorten the game? (12 minute quarters) The players have evolved into big, fast and strong players and the collisions are more violent than ever. Good luck making the game safer and keeping people interested. Everyone already hates the Pro-Bowl, that is basically what will be seen soon, little contact, flag football style offense and no real hitting.

It's definitely not a game for the meek.

Pappy

calmkiller
02-13-2013, 04:31 PM
It is not broken....don't fix it.

squidkid
02-13-2013, 06:02 PM
Don't change a thing... well, improve or require the best equipment for the players and make every helmet have a shock sensor that tells team doctors when a player has head trauma.

bette yet, provide them with all the facts you know about head trauma then hand them a waiver stating the know the risks but care about the money more. make a choice.

supersteeler
02-13-2013, 06:53 PM
When big bodies fly around there is bound to be injuries, this is football not golf.

The problem in the past was coaches wanted to win so bad that a player was put right back in after a concussion. Now they are addressing it which is a good thing but don't go overboard with all the rules.

I look at it this way, anyone who played the game knows the dangers up front, that's the drawback but these guys make more in one year than we make in a lifetime in some cases.
The only merit I see in the lawsuits is when teams and their coaches knew a player had a concussion but kept him in the game, other
than that, the players don't have much of an advantage....they signed up for this.

Now that concussion talk is out in the open its a good thing especially for the kids. Football needs to be safe but still there is a limit on how safe you can make it or you might as well get the flags out for flag football.

Police officers put their life in danger on any call they get, what are we going to do, sue the City everytime an officer is hurt or worse killed?
They sign up for that job because they want to protect and serve the public, same with a football player they sign up cause they love the game and the money is fantastic. There are many jobs that could lead to injury or death, we try to make them safer but the danger is still there no matter waht you do.

To make football really safe would require radical changes to the game, otherwise players are at risk, a risk they signed up for. I'm all for doing everything possible to make the game safer, but I'm not for WWF fake football and neither is the fans.

fordfixer
02-13-2013, 07:59 PM
No. Thanks for asking

flippy
02-13-2013, 09:49 PM
When big bodies fly around there is bound to be injuries, this is football not golf.

The problem in the past was coaches wanted to win so bad that a player was put right back in after a concussion. Now they are addressing it which is a good thing but don't go overboard with all the rules.

I look at it this way, anyone who played the game knows the dangers up front, that's the drawback but these guys make more in one year than we make in a lifetime in some cases.
The only merit I see in the lawsuits is when teams and their coaches knew a player had a concussion but kept him in the game, other
than that, the players don't have much of an advantage....they signed up for this.

Now that concussion talk is out in the open its a good thing especially for the kids. Football needs to be safe but still there is a limit on how safe you can make it or you might as well get the flags out for flag football.

Police officers put their life in danger on any call they get, what are we going to do, sue the City everytime an officer is hurt or worse killed?
They sign up for that job because they want to protect and serve the public, same with a football player they sign up cause they love the game and the money is fantastic. There are many jobs that could lead to injury or death, we try to make them safer but the danger is still there no matter waht you do.

To make football really safe would require radical changes to the game, otherwise players are at risk, a risk they signed up for. I'm all for doing everything possible to make the game safer, but I'm not for WWF fake football and neither is the fans.


The bigger problem is the college and high school kids that get hurt and never make the NFL. Sure the pros know what they're getting into. But do the kids really know any better? Society pushes them into this culture of violence. And making the NFL is less likely than winning the lottery with a lot of risk.

Society usually wants to protect their children. Unfortunately we don't seem to care about football players.