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thor75
01-31-2013, 03:29 AM
http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/3395593-74/special-teams-coach#axzz2JXHNPsSk


Danny Smith, the Washington Redskins' special teams coach since 2004, will replace Amos Jones as the Steelers' special teams coordinator.

Jones quit last week to join the Arizona Cardinals' staff under new coach Bruce Arians, the Steelers' former offensive coordinator.

Smith, a Pittsburgh native, was the Bills' special teams coach from 2001-03 before jointing the Redskins. He also spent two seasons with the Lions and four with the Eagles, two as special teams coach.

Smith, 59, first started coaching at alma mater Pittsburgh Central Catholic when Dan Marino was the Vikings' quarterback.

Jones took over the Steelers special teams when Al Everest was fired in late August. Before then, Jones was Everest's assistant.

The Steelers wanted to talk with Smith before they hired Everest several years ago, but the Redskins denied them permission.

fezziwig
01-31-2013, 08:53 AM
Seems like the guy can't keep a job.

Ghost
01-31-2013, 09:07 AM
This is from an article in the Post Gazette Wednesday. I find it somewhat horrifying that he was not going to make a change. It doesn't speak well of his decision making after this season's specail teams sh*t fest. How could he possibly not have been looking to make a change?



Tomlin intended to retain Jones for the 2013 season, but Jones opted to become special teams coordinator in Arizona because of his friendship with new Cardinals coach Bruce Arians, a former Steelers offensive coordinator.
Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/redskins-special-teams-coordinator-danny-smith-may-take-position-with-steelers-672662/#ixzz2JYdkBM7F




They were also looking at Thomas McGaughey, ST coach for LSU for the last 2 years and a ST assistant for the NY Giants for three years. Be nice to bring in a young, hungry guy trying to make it back to the NFL instead of an old, tired retread who wasn't good at Washington.

pfelix73
01-31-2013, 10:16 AM
Exactly. These next 2 years are going to be a make or break for this entire coaching staff......Some of his decisions are questionable at times...yikes.

Slapstick
01-31-2013, 10:58 AM
Seems like the guy can't keep a job.

Please tell me you're joking...I missed the smiley...

RuthlessBurgher
01-31-2013, 01:27 PM
Please tell me you're joking...I missed the smiley...

Yeah, saying it seems like the guy can't keep a job is an awfully odd statement. All assistant coaches bounce around in the NFL, but this guy's been in Washington since 2004. That's an absolute eternity for any coach under Dan Snyder. He was there for 4 years under Joe Gibbs, and when Joe retired, he was retained by new head coach Jim Zorn. He coached another 2 years under Zorn, and when Zorn was fired, he was retained yet again by new head coach Mike Shanahan. He's coached another 3 years under Shanahan.

squidkid
01-31-2013, 01:38 PM
Yeah, saying it seems like the guy can't keep a job is an awfully odd statement. All assistant coaches bounce around in the NFL, but this guy's been in Washington since 2004. That's an absolute eternity for any coach under Dan Snyder. He was there for 4 years under Joe Gibbs, and when Joe retired, he was retained by new head coach Jim Zorn. He coached another 2 years under Zorn, and when Zorn was fired, he was retained yet again by new head coach Mike Shanahan. He's coached another 3 years under Shanahan.

so is this good or bad?
the guy wasnt wanted by anyone else all those years and was never promoted within. you would think if he was 'all that', he wouldhave made a move somewhere in there. No?

RuthlessBurgher
01-31-2013, 01:45 PM
so is this good or bad?
the guy wasnt wanted by anyone else all those years and was never promoted within. you would think if he was 'all that', he wouldhave made a move somewhere in there. No?

Wasn't wanted by anyone else all those years? We requested an interview with him a few years back when he ultimately hired Al Everest, but the Skins blocked us from interviewing him back then. They didn't block us from interviewing him now.

Never promoted from within? The special teams coach is a coordinator. Offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, special teams coordinator. The only possible promotion from a coordinator position would be head coach.

He was kept from one coaching regime to another in Washington (twice) simply because he is a good special teams coordinator (just like Dick LeBeau was kept from the Cowher to Tomlin coaching regime because he is a good defensive coordinator).

supersteeler
01-31-2013, 01:48 PM
The special teams were a thorn in the Steelers side for years, lets just hope that thorn didn't penetrate the skin this time.

Mister Pittsburgh
01-31-2013, 01:52 PM
Question....Did Tomlin say after firing Al Everest that he would personally have a hand in special teams this past season? I can't remember if I read an article in a paper that he said that, or just heard on a board or from someone else that he said it.

squidkid
01-31-2013, 03:55 PM
Wasn't wanted by anyone else all those years? We requested an interview with him a few years back when he ultimately hired Al Everest, but the Skins blocked us from interviewing him back then. They didn't block us from interviewing him now.

Never promoted from within? The special teams coach is a coordinator. Offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, special teams coordinator. The only possible promotion from a coordinator position would be head coach.

He was kept from one coaching regime to another in Washington (twice) simply because he is a good special teams coordinator (just like Dick LeBeau was kept from the Cowher to Tomlin coaching regime because he is a good defensive coordinator).

okay, i can see you are in love with this hire. i expect our special teams will be much much improved.

squidkid
01-31-2013, 04:24 PM
Question....Did Tomlin say after firing Al Everest that he would personally have a hand in special teams this past season? I can't remember if I read an article in a paper that he said that, or just heard on a board or from someone else that he said it.

i think i heard he was gonna unleash hell on the special teams

RuthlessBurgher
01-31-2013, 04:58 PM
okay, i can see you are in love with this hire. i expect our special teams will be much much improved.

Not in love with the hire per se. Don't know enough about him yet. We'll have to wait and see. The proof is in the pudding. I was just saying that there must be something there for him to stick with a team twice through head coaching changes (where typically an entire staff is sent packing unless there is someone like Dick LeBeau there). Personally, I tend to prefer younger, enthusiatic guys than 59 year olds to come in and coach special teams (since they are typically dealing with the youngest players on the roster all the time, so it might be better for the rooks to have someone that they might be able to relate to a little better), but I'm giving this one the benefit of the doubt for the time being. This is also the second time that we approached the Skins about this guy, so there must be something there that the Steelers really like, I would imagine.

squidkid
01-31-2013, 05:04 PM
Not in love with the hire per se. Don't know enough about him yet. We'll have to wait and see. The proof is in the pudding. I was just saying that there must be something there for him to stick with a team twice through head coaching changes (where typically an entire staff is sent packing unless there is someone like Dick LeBeau there). Personally, I tend to prefer younger, enthusiatic guys than 59 year olds to come in and coach special teams (since they are typically dealing with the youngest players on the roster all the time, so it might be better for the rooks to have someone that they might be able to relate to a little better), but I'm giving this one the benefit of the doubt for the time being. This is also the second time that we approached the Skins about this guy, so there must be something there that the Steelers really like, I would imagine.


good response. i agree with you wholeheartedly witht he age thing but maybe he's a young 59, like DL is a young 100 and whatever he is...;)

squidkid
01-31-2013, 05:08 PM
2012 -16
2011 -22
2010 -26
2009 -27
2008 -18
2007 -16
2006 -11
2005 -5
2004 -26
this was with the redskins (18th rank average)
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2003 -24
2002- 20
2001 -28
this was with the bills (24th rank average)

not sure where this poster got his info but it doesnt look like an impressive resume.

supersteeler
01-31-2013, 07:09 PM
I don't really know enough about Smith other than what I read or heard, it appears he's an average coach, nothing to rave about or nothing real bad about his coaching.
I'll wish him good luck and hope he can improve our special teams but its not all on the coach either, our players have to want to and execute something they were lacking in. Dumb penalties hurt us too on returns that negated good field position and in some cases TD's that were called back on account of undisciplined play.

Hope it works.

phillyesq
01-31-2013, 07:49 PM
2012 -16
2011 -22
2010 -26
2009 -27
2008 -18
2007 -16
2006 -11
2005 -5
2004 -26
this was with the redskins (18th rank average)
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2003 -24
2002- 20
2001 -28
this was with the bills (24th rank average)

not sure where this poster got his info but it doesnt look like an impressive resume.

What does this measure?

BradshawsHairdresser
01-31-2013, 11:18 PM
Looking at the Redskins message boards...the fans don't seem too sad to see Smith leave.

Hope I'm wrong, but this hire seems to have mediocrity written all over it.

Slapstick
02-01-2013, 06:56 AM
Looking at the Redskins message boards...the fans don't seem too sad to see Smith leave.

Hope I'm wrong, but this hire seems to have mediocrity written all over it.

A lot of fans on this message board wouldn't be sad to see LeBeau leave...

In general, I don't trust message boards...Especially if the fan base isn't as knowledgable as the Steelers'...

fezziwig
02-04-2013, 06:03 PM
2012 -16
2011 -22
2010 -26
2009 -27
2008 -18
2007 -16
2006 -11
2005 -5
2004 -26
this was with the redskins (18th rank average)
------------------------------------------

2003 -24
2002- 20
2001 -28
this was with the bills (24th rank average)

not sure where this poster got his info but it doesnt look like an impressive resume.


So he's the Bruce Arians of special teams ? Maybe the new surroundings with help him to do better ?

Oviedo
02-04-2013, 06:14 PM
2012 -16
2011 -22
2010 -26
2009 -27
2008 -18
2007 -16
2006 -11
2005 -5
2004 -26
this was with the redskins (18th rank average)
------------------------------------------

2003 -24
2002- 20
2001 -28
this was with the bills (24th rank average)

not sure where this poster got his info but it doesnt look like an impressive resume.

You are showing the results from two of the NFL's least talented teams during the period cited. Who did this guy have to work with? Those rankings may represent a miracle achievement given the repective team's talent level.

lloydroid
02-04-2013, 06:16 PM
http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/3395593-74/special-teams-coach#axzz2JXHNPsSk

Smith, a Pittsburgh native,

That's all I needed to hear. If you are from the Pgh area, you get hired because we all know that people from Pgh are magical and better than everyone else. They overrate this factor by 10 fold. It's insane. "Oh, well he is one of us!" What BS.

Oviedo
02-04-2013, 06:24 PM
That's all I needed to hear. If you are from the Pgh area, you get hired because we all know that people from Pgh are magical and better than everyone else. They overrate this factor by 10 fold. It's insane. "Oh, well he is one of us!" What BS.

So instead of "overrating" I guess we should automatically "discount" as a parochial mistake anyone hired who is from Pittsburgh. I guess that is sound logic in the "Universe of The Glass is Half Empty."

Guy has been in the league for some time and kept through staff and head coach changes. I'll choose to believe he is doing something right until I see evidence to the contrary.

Slapstick
02-04-2013, 06:59 PM
That's all I needed to hear. If you are from the Pgh area, you get hired because we all know that people from Pgh are magical and better than everyone else. They overrate this factor by 10 fold. It's insane. "Oh, well he is one of us!" What BS.

Hal Hunter is from the burgh...as is Joe D'Allesandris...

Jack Bicknell is not...

Which OL Coach was hired?

lloydroid
02-04-2013, 07:51 PM
So instead of "overrating" I guess we should automatically "discount" as a parochial mistake anyone hired who is from Pittsburgh. I guess that is sound logic in the "Universe of The Glass is Half Empty."

Guy has been in the league for some time and kept through staff and head coach changes. I'll choose to believe he is doing something right until I see evidence to the contrary.

If you haven't noticed the trend of overrating anyone from the Pgh area, well, I can't help you. They put way too much emphasis over getting players and coaches from the local area and that's a small-minded, unworldly way to operate. Does that mean this hire is bad? Nope. Does that change the truth about their trend on over-valuing hiring people from the area? Nope. Even in the draft, they reach for players who come from the region, as if coming from Pgh makes you some how better.

lloydroid
02-04-2013, 07:52 PM
Hal Hunter is from the burgh...as is Joe D'Allesandris...

Jack Bicknell is not...

Which OL Coach was hired?

Never said it was the end all qualification; just said they overrate being from the area. How many reaches in the draft came from them drafting someone from PA, or signing FA from the area?

Slapstick
02-04-2013, 08:05 PM
Even in the draft, they reach for players who come from the region, as if coming from Pgh makes you some how better.

Who?

Because they spent a 7th round pick on Toney Clemons? He was projected to go in the 7th...how is that a reach?

lloydroid
02-04-2013, 08:38 PM
Who?

Because they spent a 7th round pick on Toney Clemons? He was projected to go in the 7th...how is that a reach?

Charlie Batch, from Pgh. Shipley. From Pgh. QB Gonzalez. From Pgh. Mike Adams. From PA. Tony Clemmons. From Pgh. Cameron Heyward. From Pgh. Ryan Mundy. From Pgh. Should I keep going?

Slapstick
02-04-2013, 09:03 PM
Charlie Batch, from Pgh. Shipley. From Pgh. QB Gonzalez. From Pgh. Mike Adams. From PA. Tony Clemmons. From Pgh. Cameron Heyward. From Pgh. Ryan Mundy. From Pgh. Should I keep going?

So, you're going to name 7 people out of all the people the Steelers drafted and signed over 15 years and act as thought it makes your point?

Gonzalez played at Pitt, but is from Miami...

What about Ben? Troy? Casey? Heath? Pouncey? Wallace? Sanders? Brown? Ike? Keisel?

How about free agents? Cotchery? Mewelde Moore? Ryan Clark? James Farrior?

phillyesq
02-04-2013, 09:38 PM
Charlie Batch - beat the SB champions this year
Shipley - seventh round pick who logged significant time with the Colts
QB Gonzalez - UDFA on the roster for two years
Mike Adams - running game was much more effective when he was in the lineup.
Tony Clemmons - seventh round pick, signed from PS
Cameron Heyward - jury is still out but showed promise
Ryan Mundy - seventh round pick who managed to spend a few years on the roster

So, basically, your list proves absolutely nothing.