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BigRob
01-29-2013, 05:18 PM
Steelers hire Jack Bicknell Jr. as their offensive line coach. He replaces Sean Kugler, the new head coach at UTEP.

https://twitter.com/BobLabriola

I think this is a good hire. He coached the Chiefs line last year and is familiar with the type of o-line Haley likes.

Oviedo
01-29-2013, 05:23 PM
From Steelers site:


The Pittsburgh Steelers have named Jack Bicknell, Jr. as their new offensive line coach, it was announced today.
Bicknell is entering his fifth season in the NFL as an assistant coach, having served as the offensive line coach for Kansas City in 2012 and as the assistant offensive line coach for the New York Giants from 2009-11.

“I am excited to have Jack join the Pittsburgh Steelers,” Steelers Head Coach Mike Tomlin said. “Jack has a tremendous football pedigree and the background we were looking for to guide our offensive line in the upcoming years. I look forward to having him join our staff as we prepare for the upcoming 2013 season.”

Bicknell was part of a New York coaching staff that helped lead the Giants to victory in Super Bowl XLVI. In 2011, New York’s offensive line only allowed 28 sacks as the Giants’ offense ranked fifth in the NFL in passing. While in New York, Bicknell helped G Chris Snee and OL Shaun O’Hara earn three selections to the NFC Pro Bowl team. In Bicknell’s first season with the Giants, three offensive linemen were selected to the Pro Bowl, marking the first time since 1962 that three Giants from the same position group were selected to the NFL’s all-star game.

“The Pittsburgh Steelers are one of the greatest franchises in the NFL," said Bicknell, Jr. "The Steelers have great tradition, great ownership and great leadership from the top to the bottom. For me to be able to come to a situation like this, it is really a dream come true."

Prior to coaching in the NFL, Bicknell coached collegiately from 1985-2008, including eight seasons as the head coach at Louisiana Tech (1999-2006), where his 43 victories ranked third in school history. Bicknell began his coaching career at Boston College, his alma mater, serving as a graduate assistant from 1985-87. He would later serve as the Eagles’ assistant head coach/offensive line coach in 2007-08.

Bicknell also coached at New Hampshire (defensive line – 1987-92; offensive line – 1993-96) and Louisiana Tech (offensive line – 1997-98).

Bicknell played center at Boston College from 1981-85. In 1984, he snapped the ball to Doug Flutie to begin one of the most famous plays in college football, a Hail Mary pass that defeated the Miami Hurricanes in the Orange Bowl. In his final season at Boston College, Bicknell was given the Scanlon Award, the highest honor bestowed upon a BC football player, the Scarminach Award for athletic and academic excellence and the Dean’s Award in the school of education.

Bicknell’s father, Jack, was the head coach of NFL Europe’s Barcelona Dragons (1991-2003) and for Boston College (1981-90). His brother, Bob, was an assistant coach in Kansas City from 2007-09 and was the wide receivers coach for the Buffalo Bills from 2010-12.


Let's hope they give him some players to work with.

phillyesq
01-29-2013, 05:27 PM
Seems to have a decent background but I don't know much about him.

Eddie Spaghetti
01-29-2013, 05:28 PM
nice.

I think this is a good hire.

costanza2k1
01-29-2013, 05:38 PM
http://www.steelers.com/video-and-audio/videos/Steelerscom-Update-New-O-Line-Coach/85618ced-3d60-4b86-a82c-869a5eef8377?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twi tter

mr.me
01-29-2013, 05:40 PM
does anyone know if he runs the zone blocking scheme???i think this would really help r o-line

ikestops85
01-29-2013, 05:56 PM
does anyone know if he runs the zone blocking scheme???i think this would really help r o-line

I'm not so sure. We instituted the zone blocking scheme after Grimm went to Pittsburgh West and I don't think our O-line has recovered. Although I must admit most of that was due to lack of talent. Whatever system we run I just hope our linemen can play together for the entire season. I'm tired of seeing us have a new starting lineup every couple of games.

supersteeler
01-29-2013, 06:00 PM
Bicknell was part of a New York coaching staff that helped lead the Giants to victory in Super Bowl XLVI. In 2011, New York’s offensive line only allowed 28 sacks as the Giants’ offense ranked fifth in the NFL in passing.

If he could duplicate that here, that alone would me tremendous. in sixteen games thats an average of only 1.75 sacks a game, pretty darn good.

steelz09
01-29-2013, 06:17 PM
Bicknell was part of a New York coaching staff that helped lead the Giants to victory in Super Bowl XLVI. In 2011, New York’s offensive line only allowed 28 sacks as the Giants’ offense ranked fifth in the NFL in passing.

If he could duplicate that here, that alone would me tremendous. in sixteen games thats an average of only 1.75 sacks a game, pretty darn good.

Let's not forget NY has a QB that gets rid of the ball faster and doesn't run around like a chicken with it's head cutoff.

No matter who the o-line is... No matter who the OL coach is... The Steelers will give up for sacks. Why? Because of Ben. That's Why.

Snatch98
01-29-2013, 07:09 PM
Let's not forget NY has a QB that gets rid of the ball faster and doesn't run around like a chicken with it's head cutoff.

No matter who the o-line is... No matter who the OL coach is... The Steelers will give up for sacks. Why? Because of Ben. That's Why.

I disagree or at least can comfortably say he'll take quite a few less. Assuming our o-line improves, even with just another year for the young guys Ben is going to take less sacks, especially in the Haley offense. Now if Adams and Gilbert can come in to their own and DeCastro gets the opportunity to play up to his draft stock it's going to be even better. The Steelers have invested in the offensive line and it's going to eventually show. Players just need to stay healthy, aka Gilbert not falling on all of them, but maybe playing in his more natural position at LT will help that, who knows.

Chadman
01-29-2013, 07:14 PM
does anyone know if he runs the zone blocking scheme???i think this would really help r o-line

Zeirlein ran a zone blocking system. Our OLinemen are not good zone blockers. They are big mashing squishers. And we have power running RB's.

BigRob
01-29-2013, 07:26 PM
Zeirlein ran a zone blocking system. Our OLinemen are not good zone blockers. They are big mashing squishers. And we have power running RB's.

Adams, Gilbert, Pouncey, Decastro, and Beachum can run the zone. Foster, Colon, Starks, and the plodders cannot.

I forget which writer mentioned it, but said that Haley would have more input into the o-line this year and would be involved in the o-line coach hire. Tomlin liked the running game Haley had in KC. They ran a zone type scheme.

squidkid
01-29-2013, 07:29 PM
on paper it looks like a good hire by rooney

mr.me
01-29-2013, 07:35 PM
would love to be able to zone block,Houston-Denver-Washington all use zone,and all good running teams,just seems ez to me,everybody goes one way and rb picks the hole,i think we get a runningback with some vision in this draft!!!!just my 2c.

RuthlessBurgher
01-29-2013, 08:00 PM
https://twitter.com/BobLabriola

I think this is a good hire. He coached the Chiefs line last year and is familiar with the type of o-line Haley likes.

However, Haley and Bicknell have never coached together. Haley was fired by K.C. in 2011. Bicknell was hired by K.C. in 2012. In Bicknell's only season with the Chiefs, Haley was already in Pittsburgh.

steelmann58
01-29-2013, 09:11 PM
He a Zone blocker Guru hopefuly the steelers OL fits and that would mean Gilbert needs to lose weight.If the lose Starks i believe they will need a Tackle via the draft.

BigRob
01-29-2013, 09:12 PM
However, Haley and Bicknell have never coached together. Haley was fired by K.C. in 2011. Bicknell was hired by K.C. in 2012. In Bicknell's only season with the Chiefs, Haley was already in Pittsburgh.

Yeah, I understood that, but he coaches a lot of the guys that were there when Haley was coach. So he's familiar with the type of o-linemen that Haley likes to play.

Chadman
01-29-2013, 09:37 PM
If they find cap space.... could this put Brandon Albert on the FA map?

Mister Pittsburgh
01-29-2013, 10:01 PM
would love to be able to zone block,Houston-Denver-Washington all use zone,and all good running teams,just seems ez to me,everybody goes one way and rb picks the hole,i think we get a runningback with some vision in this draft!!!!just my 2c.

Would be interesting to get Lacy and run him behind a solid line in a zone blocking scheme.

pfelix73
01-29-2013, 10:45 PM
I'm not so sure. We instituted the zone blocking scheme after Grimm went to Pittsburgh West and I don't think our O-line has recovered. Although I must admit most of that was due to lack of talent. Whatever system we run I just hope our linemen can play together for the entire season. I'm tired of seeing us have a new starting lineup every couple of games.

Most teams at all levels of competition usually use both zone blocking and man.. The Steelers are no different. They use both.

NJ-STEELER
01-29-2013, 11:31 PM
Adams, Gilbert, Pouncey, Decastro, and Beachum can run the zone. Foster, Colon, Starks, and the plodders cannot.

I forget which writer mentioned it, but said that Haley would have more input into the o-line this year and would be involved in the o-line coach hire. Tomlin liked the running game Haley had in KC. They ran a zone type scheme.

correct

you need athletic lineman to run the ZBS successfully

focosteeler
01-30-2013, 01:10 AM
He a Zone blocker Guru hopefuly the steelers OL fits and that would mean Gilbert needs to lose weight.If the lose Starks i believe they will need a Tackle via the draft.

No matter the scheme Gilbert needs to lose some weight. Overall i think that he needs to get in better shape.

thor75
01-30-2013, 02:24 AM
I went to six different KC Chiefs forum sites to see their fan reactions and only found one discussion with one reply in regards to this, and I come here and there's already three pages. LOL I knew Steeler Nation was on top of it!

I wonder who else they interviewed if anyone?

If he does run the ZBS, will any potential 1st rounders be moved up/down our draftboard?

Chadman
01-30-2013, 06:05 AM
I went to six different KC Chiefs forum sites to see their fan reactions and only found one discussion with one reply in regards to this, and I come here and there's already three pages. LOL I knew Steeler Nation was on top of it!

I wonder who else they interviewed if anyone?

If he does run the ZBS, will any potential 1st rounders be moved up/down our draftboard?

Would be willing to guess the big behemoth out of Alabama is not as good a fit. How much would a Zone Blocking system suite Legursky?

Slapstick
01-30-2013, 06:48 AM
Most teams at all levels of competition usually use both zone blocking and man.. The Steelers are no different. They use both.

True.

When Grimm was O-Line Coach, the Steelers ran a primarily man-blocking scheme until they signed Duce Staley...Duce preferred zone blocking, so they put that in almost 10 years ago...until he was injured, Duce was running really, really well...

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
01-30-2013, 11:22 AM
Let's not forget NY has a QB that gets rid of the ball faster and doesn't run around like a chicken with it's head cutoff.

No matter who the o-line is... No matter who the OL coach is... The Steelers will give up for sacks. Why? Because of Ben. That's Why.

Agreed....but we also have a QB who can work absolute magic when not being assaulted within seconds of the ball being snapped. The problem is that without fear of a running game the D has been able to tee off on our QB. Perhaps a new coach can help improve the running game and give the QB more protection.

lloydroid
01-30-2013, 03:23 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/steelers-name-offensive-line-coach-672504/

No idea if he is good or not. No idea how much an OL coach matters, for that reason. You need talent or coaching can do little.

Mister Pittsburgh
01-30-2013, 03:30 PM
http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/showthread.php/39943-Steelers-hire-Jack-Bicknell-Jr-as-O-line-coach-per-Labriola

Eddie Spaghetti
01-30-2013, 03:53 PM
welcome to yesterday.

hawaiiansteel
02-10-2013, 02:30 AM
Steelers Sunday Spotlight: The Offensive Line ... changes in store

February 10, 2013
By Gerry Dulac / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

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Like center Maurkice Pouncey, David DeCastro -- last season's first-round draft pick -- epitomizes the long, lean body type the Steelers seek to employ on the offensive line.

The Steelers offensive line will have a different look in 2013, not just in personnel but also in execution.

At least, that is the intent of offensive coordinator Todd Haley and the team's new offensive line coach, Jack Bicknell Jr.

And for good reason.

If the Steelers are interested in running the ball more effectively -- something that didn't happen in 2012 -- they might have to do more than change the people who are blocking up front. They might have to change how they are blocking, too.

And that also would mean finding the right type of running back to fit the schemes that are being employed.

Despite a change in roster makeup to emphasize running the ball better, the Steelers went the other way last season, averaging just 3.7 yards per carry on the ground after averaging 4.4 yards per pop with basically the same personnel in 2011.

Offensive lines are sometimes graded on the protection they afford their quarterback, and, at times, that was much better in 2012 than it has been, especially in two of the games when Charlie Batch had to replace Ben Roethlisberger.

But the true measure of how a line performs is often determined by how effectively a team runs the ball. And that is something the Steelers did not do very well in 2012, other than a three-game span in the middle of the season when they had three consecutive games with a 100-yard rusher -- something the team had not done in five years.

Haley and Bicknell would like to change that. And they will start with injecting more youth, more athleticism and less girth in the offensive line.

When Haley was the head coach in Kansas City, the Chiefs had the league's No. 1 rushing attack with an offensive line that averaged less than 300 pounds. And, in an interview last week on the Steelers website, Bicknell said he doesn't like offensive linemen "who get huge and then they can't bend and move." He said he wants players who can move, run and have the quickness off the ball "to get into people."

That's one of the reasons the Steelers are expected to part ways with Max Starks, who was arguably the team's best lineman in 2012 and the only one to play every snap.

Tackles are responsible for allowing running backs to get to the edge and bounce outside, and how many times did you see a Steelers running back do that last season?

That is also not a good fit for guard Willie Colon, who was too thick to move at the team's top pulling spot. Colon, though, is not expected back because of his repeated injury problems.

Their expected departure will pave the way for the Steelers to start an offensive line that could have four, and possibly five, starters under the age of 26.

Marcus Gilbert, who missed 12 games last season with an ankle ligament tear, will likely replace Starks at left tackle. He will be 25 on Friday. Mike Adams, last year's No. 2 pick who missed the final five games with an ankle injury, is expected to start at right tackle. The Steelers do not want to use him at left tackle because Adams has had problems in pass protection -- something the Steelers cannot afford on Roethlisberger's blind side. Adams, though, is a very good run blocker and was the starter at right tackle when the Steelers had three consecutive 100-yard rushers. He is 22.

The team is set with Pro Bowl center Maurkice Pouncey, 23, and right guard David DeCastro, 23, who missed most of the 2012 season with a knee injury. Pouncey (6-4, 304) and DeCastro (6-5, 316) epitomize the long, lean body type the Steelers seek to employ on the offensive line.

The only question is at left guard, where 330-pound Ramon Foster finished the season as the starter.

Foster, though, does not run very well and is not an ideal fit for the team's primary pulling position. Plus, like Starks, he is an unrestricted free agent and might not be re-signed. That could pave the way for tackle Kelvin Beachum, last year's seventh-round pick, to be moved there.

In a season of injuries to many of their draft choices, Beachum was one of the team's most pleasant surprises. Not only did he impress the coaches with his ability to pass protect, he also showed an ability to get out of the edge and run block -- something the coaches want to see more of in 2013.

Beachum, 23, fits in perfectly with the team's desire to have lighter, more agile offensive lineman, and he could be moved to guard and given a chance to play there.

Doug Legurksy, who has started 17 games in his four-year career, would be re-signed to be the backup at center and guard. Legursky is also an unrestricted free agent.

But it might not just be a change in personnel that will affect the look of the offensive line.

The Steelers have been a man-blocking team almost exclusively since Chuck Noll ran the tackle-trap play in the 1970s. But Noll did that with smaller, quicker linemen who could move off the ball and use their quickness to execute blocks.

Today, most of the top running teams in the NFL use a zone-blocking scheme that requires the offensive lineman to block an area, not a specific man. Among them are Kansas City, Washington, Denver and Houston.

Bicknell used a zone-blocking scheme last season with the Chiefs, who finished fifth in the league in rushing after leading the NFL in 2011. Bicknell said the Chiefs used a zone-blocking scheme because they had a running back, Jamaal Charles, who liked to run outside-zone plays.

If the Steelers change to a zone-blocking scheme, then it will be imperative to find the type of running back who is patient, stretches the play and has good cutback instincts.

Right now, the Steelers' top running backs, Jonathan Dwyer and Isaac Redman, are physical backs who run inside and are more tailored to gap runs in a man-blocking scheme. Rashard Mendenhall and Chris Rainey are examples of running backs who can threaten the edge and are more suited to zone-blocking schemes. But Rainey is already gone and Mendenhall is expected to follow.

That will either force the Steelers to find a back to fit a zone-scheme style or continue with a man-blocking attack that suits Redman and Dwyer.

It will all be part of the change that is due to come on the offensive line.

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/steelers-sunday-spotlight-the-offensive-line-changes-in-store-674173/#ixzz2KTGByS00

thor75
02-10-2013, 04:23 AM
Insightful article, especially in regards to who they may or may not target in the draft and their decision-making with regards to the free agents.

Oviedo
02-10-2013, 10:23 AM
Great article but not sure they have the talent to do what they say the want to do. If they accurately describe the type of lineman they are looking for then Warmack probably is unlikely. However, his teammate Barrett Jones would fit the bill.

phillyesq
02-10-2013, 12:00 PM
That was a good read. Pouncey, DD and Adams all seem to fit the mold. Gilbert seems to be more of a Max Starks type than an athletic OT. Beachum has the athleticism but needs to get stronger. Legursky is adequate at center but does not get the job done at OG - he has been given the opportunity but doesn't cut it.

I think the Steelers will need to add at least one G if Foster walks and Colon is cut.

focosteeler
02-10-2013, 12:40 PM
Dwyer and Redman are not well suited for a ZBS, I would hope that means that they try to resign Mendy.

Slapstick
02-10-2013, 01:19 PM
Dwyer and Redman are not well suited for a ZBS, I would hope that means that they try to resign Mendy.

Doesn't Paul Johnson's option offense in Ga. Tech use zone blocking? Isn't it just a zone-read variation?

Why couldn't Dwyer succeed in a ZBS?

focosteeler
02-10-2013, 06:25 PM
Doesn't Paul Johnson's option offense in Ga. Tech use zone blocking? Isn't it just a zone-read variation?

Why couldn't Dwyer succeed in a ZBS?

I have no idea what they use. I was just going off of the article stating that dwyer and redman are not well suited for a ZBS. I do remember when Mendy was coming out of college people said he would be most effective in a ZBS.

supersteeler
02-10-2013, 07:09 PM
I don't know if ZBS will be any better than man. They try to make this more complicated than it is, you either make the block or don't period.
Getting lighter O-lineman isn't going to make things any better, they may even get pushed around more with huge D-linemen in front of them.

Here is the 95 Dallas Cowboys Offensive line.

Eric Williams 324

Nate Newton 318

Ray Donaldson 311

Larry Allen 325

Georger Hagamin 331


Thats a lot of beef up there and Emmitt found all the holes, lets get a feature back and leave things alone. The blocking will develope when we have the same 5 starters playing on a consistent basis. Getting smaller on the line is just a go ahead for D-linemen to get to Ben even more pushing them around like rag dolls.

flippy
02-10-2013, 07:37 PM
Anyone know how well Zone does vs AFCN defenses? These teams all have some big boys in the middle of the field and if somehow you can get those big boys moving sideways, that might be the trick to running against them.

However, if those big boys could just as easily drive linemen backward and totally disrupt a Zone.

Thinking back to the XL run, Casey saw a couple of very small/athletic centers during the playoff run that he ate alive.

I'm a little torn on what the right way to go here is. With guys like Ngata and Atkins, I think you still need some size in the interior of your line.

Chadman
02-10-2013, 08:09 PM
Doesn't Paul Johnson's option offense in Ga. Tech use zone blocking? Isn't it just a zone-read variation?

Why couldn't Dwyer succeed in a ZBS?

Wonder if this puts a guy like Omoregie Uzzi on the radar as a mid round draft pick? A bit light in the trunk, but explosive & agile- and played for Georgia Tech, so is familiar with ZBS.

As for Dwyer- wasn't his role in the Ga. Tech offense weird? While he might have fit that offense, not sure if the ZBS suits him, or if he was just a good fit for the role they had him in. Still, there's no reason Chadman can see to say he won't be able to succeed.

Slapstick
02-10-2013, 08:48 PM
Anyone know how well Zone does vs AFCN defenses? These teams all have some big boys in the middle of the field and if somehow you can get those big boys moving sideways, that might be the trick to running against them.

However, if those big boys could just as easily drive linemen backward and totally disrupt a Zone.

Last year, the Chiefs (when Bicknell was O-Line Coach) rushed for 120 yards or more against each AFCN team...