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supersteeler
01-22-2013, 03:00 PM
I would say pass rush and running game.

We couldn't run the ball effectively when we wanted to and most of the season our pass rush was MIA.
Now take into account our two best OLB's were missing in many games and we didn't have them both on the field at the same time till at the end.

We only had two or three games out of the entire season where our run game played well, other than that they wern't very good.


I would like a strong OLB,ILB, too but I believe we need more help on the offense beside RB. we also could use a good TE, WR, and o-line help.
I keep thinking of all the positions and the outcome of last season and it keeps coming up inability to score enough points , thats the problem folks, and its the main problem.

Look at the Ravens, their defense isn't as good like they use to be, but they did play excellent in the Pat game. They also gave up over 400 yrds, against the Colts but still won. The reason is their offense is coming together and Flacco is playing good.
We are going to duplicate this season unless we get this offense working to score more points.

You average 21 points a game and you will be sitting at home for years......GET THIS DAMN OFFENSE IMPROVED and FAST!

Oviedo
01-22-2013, 03:06 PM
Offensive line and Pass rush.

Want to improve the running game and get the offense going then get more talent on the OL.

Want to improve the pass rush become more innovative, blitz more and quit rushing the predictable OLBs most of the time. Need to send pressure from multiple directions.

phillyesq
01-22-2013, 03:14 PM
Lot of areas need improvement. On defense, the pass rush improving should lead to more mistakes and more turnovers. It would also be nice to see the DBs make more plays on passes.

On offense, everything needs to improve with the exception of Heath. The WRs need to play better. The running game obviously needs to improve.

The offensive line played well and even had a very good stretch. Tough when you're down to your third sting RT and backups all along the line. Beachum simply cannot be an option to start at LG, and more depth is needed there.

SidSmythe
01-22-2013, 03:17 PM
It's amazing what our defense accomplished with no pass rush.
I think a healthy Troy roaming around helps b/c it makes QBs think more when he's out there.
I also think our DL is the weakest it's been in a long time.

As for our running game it comes down to the O-line. We saw vs. the Giants and Bungles what happens when you have good blocking up front.
But i also partly blame our lack of continuity at the RB position.

lloydroid
01-22-2013, 03:27 PM
I agree with the OP. We simply need to score more, period. The D was plenty good enough to win, even in the post season. And our rushing game was simply pathetic, 26th in the NFL and a paltry 3.7 avg per rush. Just lame. And there are many things needed to make it better: OL play, a better RB and better play calling - all 3 are needed.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
01-22-2013, 03:40 PM
The reason is their offense is coming together and Flacco is playing good.

I disagree that Flacco is playing good, and that leads me to the area that I believe we need to improve. If you watch the way the Ravens have been playing on offense, Flacco is putting the ball up and his receivers have been making plays. He has two big, strong wide outs that have been going up and getting the ball and making the corners look like amateurs.

I think that this could be the future of offense in the NFL. Protect the QB and give him time. Allow the receiver an opportunity to use his body control and fight for the ball. The receiver has the advantage as far as rules go so let him have at it. As far as CBs go, it is no longer good enough to run with the receiver. You must also physically out battle him for the ball, and you are being scrutinized a lot closer in how you do it.

So that brings us back to the original question. Find big strong receivers. Boldin and Smith are ideal for today's game. You cannot go with a nucleus of Wallace, Brown, and Sanders at WR.

lloydroid
01-22-2013, 03:54 PM
I disagree that Flacco is playing good, and that leads me to the area that I believe we need to improve. If you watch the way the Ravens have been playing on offense, Flacco is putting the ball up and his receivers have been making plays. He has two big, strong wide outs that have been going up and getting the ball and making the corners look like amateurs.

I think that this could be the future of offense in the NFL. Protect the QB and give him time. Allow the receiver an opportunity to use his body control and fight for the ball. The receiver has the advantage as far as rules go so let him have at it. As far as CBs go, it is no longer good enough to run with the receiver. You must also physically out battle him for the ball, and you are being scrutinized a lot closer in how you do it.

So that brings us back to the original question. Find big strong receivers. Boldin and Smith are ideal for today's game. You cannot go with a nucleus of Wallace, Brown, and Sanders at WR.

Actually, the correct phrasing would be "I don't think Flacco is playing 'well.'" Any who, I know he actually is playing well - his #s in the post season all support that assertion. And, there isn't any ONE way to form an effective WR unit; the league has vacillated between small speedy guys and bigger WRs. Either style can work. Back in the day Marino had small fast guys, as did Warren Moon. You just have to use them differently than when you have big dudes. You have to find open space and let your speedy guys get there. With bigger dudes, you can throw into coverage and they still make the play. I would take a Steve Smith in his prime any year on any team. He is small, but it doesn't matter - he balls and makes it work. But, the prototypical wide out these days are EJ Green, Julio Jones and Andre Johnson. No way does Mike Wallace get mentioned here; he is a one trick pony who can't catch when a DB has any contact with him. He is just a big wussy - no heart, no strength. No wonder we got him in the 3rd round.

feltdizz
01-22-2013, 03:56 PM
LOL... Flacco is in the SB. He's been to 3 AFCCG's and he outplayed Brady last year and if not for a dropped TD pass who knows. Even if all he did was throw hailmary's he's throwing them where the WR has a chance to make a play.

Our WR's are fine... the real problem is the running game and short routes our WR's are running. It's much easier to defend blazing fast speed when most of the passes are being made in front of you. Force DB's to chase our speedsters and watch them flourish.

lloydroid
01-22-2013, 04:01 PM
LOL... Flacco is in the SB. He's been to 3 AFCCG's and he outplayed Brady last year and if not for a dropped TD pass who knows. Even if all he did was throw hailmary's he's throwing them where the WR has a chance to make a play.

Our WR's are fine... the real problem is the running game and short routes our WR's are running. It's much easier to defend blazing fast speed when most of the passes are being made in front of you. Force DB's to chase our speedsters and watch them flourish.

Our best, remaining passing attack is when Ben hits Brown in stride, in the middle of the field, allowing him to jack up the old YAC. With Wallace gone, I expect the attitudes to be much improved and that was half our problem.

ikestops85
01-22-2013, 05:10 PM
The 2 areas of improvement are the pass rush (should help get us more turnovers) and the offensive line play (should help both the run and pass game). I'm not sure that we have to draft another beast to improve the offensive line. I think if we keep the guys we currently have and get them to stay healthy so they can play together throughout the season we will see a marked improvement.

Chadman
01-22-2013, 05:38 PM
Dominate the LOS.

If the Steelers do that, most everything else will fall into place nicely.

Dee Dub
01-22-2013, 05:40 PM
Injuries and wins. And they go and in hand. Steelers lost 5 games by 3 points or less. I think you guys over-think this stuff. If the Steelers franchise QB stays healthy this team makes a run.

lloydroid
01-22-2013, 05:44 PM
Injuries and wins. And they go and in hand. Steelers lost 5 games by 3 points or less. I think you guys over-think this stuff. If the Steelers franchise QB stays healthy this team makes a run.

In this case, I don't think it's as simple as that. There was a team chemistry problem with this team; only teams founded in unity make any kind of run. They have to feel a unified purpose and effort and feel they each have each others' backs. This team failed that test, as they have in ever poor season we have had in the Ben era. The season where there was a fraction among the team and/or coaches, they under-performed. Ben, with his whining and childish complaints about the play calling, several players showcasing a lack of discipline - this team was not going to contend in the post season because they didn't have a quality team chemistry. Until they do, they will continue to disappoint.

supersteeler
01-22-2013, 07:14 PM
Dominate the LOS.

If the Steelers do that, most everything else will fall into place nicely.

That is the most sensible statement I 've heard, then again I always believed that :D

Jessie WIllams & Chance Warmack could be that dominate package we're looking for.

Chucktownsteeler
01-22-2013, 08:06 PM
All areas need improvement. They can't afford to stand pat in any area. Seriously we had a terrible season.

steelmann58
01-22-2013, 08:38 PM
Thr Running game and the play of the WR.

Dee Dub
01-22-2013, 10:26 PM
In this case, I don't think it's as simple as that. There was a team chemistry problem with this team; only teams founded in unity make any kind of run. They have to feel a unified purpose and effort and feel they each have each others' backs. This team failed that test, as they have in ever poor season we have had in the Ben era. The season where there was a fraction among the team and/or coaches, they under-performed. Ben, with his whining and childish complaints about the play calling, several players showcasing a lack of discipline - this team was not going to contend in the post season because they didn't have a quality team chemistry. Until they do, they will continue to disappoint.

I think it is that easy. Winning changes chemistry. As does losing. If Ben doesn't get hurt, this team wins, makes a run in the playoffs, and most everyone has no issue with chemistry. Well...maybe not everyone...there is you...;)

Dee Dub
01-22-2013, 10:29 PM
All areas need improvement. They can't afford to stand pat in any area. Seriously we had a terrible season.

The franchise QB got hurt. That is the main reason why this team fell short. I do not think all areas need improving. It isn't that bad Chuck. Some tweaking and things will be just fine..as long as #7 stays healthy.

DukieBoy
01-22-2013, 10:30 PM
Dominate the LOS.

If the Steelers do that, most everything else will fall into place nicely.

This is it.

focosteeler
01-23-2013, 12:33 AM
Dominate the LOS.

If the Steelers do that, most everything else will fall into place nicely.

I completely agree, I think we need to let some of our younger guys play on D and draft a monster for the LG position. Pouncey and DeCastro just aren't raw power guys. Hopefully Warford doesn't raise his stock too much so we can get him in the 2nd. I think he completes the line for us and we will be able to control the LOS on Offense

papillon
01-23-2013, 12:44 AM
1) Special Teams - This unit was pathetic. If they weren't giving up a big play they were having one called back. Over the course of the year the special teams cost the Steelers at least one game, probably more.

2) In game decision making coaches and players - If Mike Tomlin makes better coaching decisions on game day, Ben makes better decisions with the ball at crucial moments, the running backs pick better lanes, the offensive line limits the brain cramps, the defense takes better angles and/or makes better calls the Steelers make the playoffs. In other words the details, a lot of little things added up to losses that shouldn't have been and typically this is the difference between 12-4 and 8-8.

Wholesale changes because of an 8-8 season are for the shortsighted and not typically how the Steelers operate (thankfully). Of course, the salary cap is going to force a change in the roster and it will be significant. So, the 3rd item in my list is identify the future, Lewis? Ta'Amu? Beachum? Whoever it may be and do whatever is necessary to get them into the fold, since the roster is going to change drastically.

Pappy