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NorthCoast
01-20-2013, 02:18 PM
In games that Ben played in:

Avg number of deep passes thrown:

2012 = 6.7

2011 = 6.9

So Haley called as many deeps balls as Arians and the myth of dink and dunk is just that.

feltdizz
01-20-2013, 02:34 PM
Are these designed plays or Ben being Ben? Maybe its a myth but it sure looked like half of our deep passes werent by design. I also think we didn't have enough in the 15 to 20 yard range where our WR's could use their speed.

What was his ypa this year? Pretty sure that was down.

steelerkeylargo
01-20-2013, 03:00 PM
Absolutely no way to know what plays were called vs. audibles.

Chadman
01-20-2013, 06:41 PM
What constitutes a 'deep pass' in those stats?

NorthCoast
01-20-2013, 07:46 PM
What constitutes a 'deep pass' in those stats?

>15 yds

These are targets but as is noted, there is no way to know if it was designed or not.

BUT, the number of deep targets this season were remarkably consistent among the games, so that tells me they were probably designed.

Chadman
01-20-2013, 07:51 PM
What was the percentage of mid-range & short targets from 2011 to 2012?

Djfan
01-21-2013, 12:35 AM
Was this YPC or passes that were actually in the air >15 yards? Brown took a few dinks and a couple of dunks to the + 15 yard zone, and that is YPC material.

Either way Ben looked good before the injury.

raycafan
01-21-2013, 12:18 PM
I think what the difference is, last few years we saw many deep completions for TDs and such. This year there were a lot of missed opportunities so the long ball just did not stand out. It was a while ago, but watching the game Lefty started it seemed he was making more 15 plus yard throws. It just felt or looked that way while watching it. Was it my eyes or were the swarm of bees on the field distorting my vision.

Oviedo
01-21-2013, 12:20 PM
Was this YPC or passes that were actually in the air >15 yards? Brown took a few dinks and a couple of dunks to the + 15 yard zone, and that is YPC material.

Either way Ben looked good before the injury.

He was having the best season of his career. Not sure why people want to ignore that.

feltdizz
01-21-2013, 12:49 PM
He was having the best season of his career. Not sure why people want to ignore that.

Even though he was statistically a beast I think people were frustrated at how easy it was to beat us due to these 15 play drives that usually ended with a FG.

pittpete
01-21-2013, 03:26 PM
Can't be true, Wallace wouldn't have lost focus during games.

RuthlessBurgher
01-21-2013, 04:49 PM
Even though he was statistically a beast I think people were frustrated at how easy it was to beat us due to these 15 play drives that usually ended with a FG.

We were 6-3 when he got hurt (then lost 5 of the next 6 games).

NorthCoast
01-21-2013, 10:20 PM
Was this YPC or passes that were actually in the air >15 yards? Brown took a few dinks and a couple of dunks to the + 15 yard zone, and that is YPC material.

Either way Ben looked good before the injury.

ball in the air...

NorthCoast
01-21-2013, 10:22 PM
I think what the difference is, last few years we saw many deep completions for TDs and such. This year there were a lot of missed opportunities so the long ball just did not stand out. It was a while ago, but watching the game Lefty started it seemed he was making more 15 plus yard throws. It just felt or looked that way while watching it. Was it my eyes or were the swarm of bees on the field distorting my vision.

Your eyes saw correctly. Leftwich attempted 13 deep balls (far above the avg for the season) and completed 4.