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Jooser
01-15-2013, 09:02 PM
http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php

R1 - Manti Te'o,LB, Notre Dame
R2 - Jawan Jamison, RB, Rutgers
R3 - Chase Thomas, DE/OLB, Stanford

Check out the link, interesting mock.

BigRob
01-15-2013, 09:08 PM
http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php

R1 - Manti Te'o,LB, Notre Dame
R2 - Jawan Jamison, RB, Rutgers
R3 - Chase Thomas, DE/OLB, Stanford

Check out the link, interesting mock.

If Shea Mclellan can go in the first round of 2012 draft, Chase Thomas will be long gone before RD3.

Dee Dub
01-15-2013, 09:24 PM
http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php

R1 - Manti Te'o,LB, Notre Dame
R2 - Jawan Jamison, RB, Rutgers
R3 - Chase Thomas, DE/OLB, Stanford

Check out the link, interesting mock.

This is totally going to make Ovi sick. How are we ever going to protect our QB? :)

RuthlessBurgher
01-15-2013, 09:30 PM
Walter's mocks are actually 4 rounds now. He also gave us Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall in round 4.

Here are his comments for each of our picks:

17. Pittsburgh Steelers: Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame
I think this is a good spot for Manti Te'o. He was brutal in the national championship, but that shouldn't erase all of his other great tape. He's still the favorite to be the first inside linebacker off the board, and the 16-25 range seems right for him. Besides, this is the type of move the Steelers normally make. They often are able to snag talented prospects who fall to them later in the first round for whatever reason.

The Steelers have shown interest in first-round inside linebackers. They wanted Dont'a Hightower last April, but David DeCastro was just too good to pass up at No. 24 overall. Pittsburgh still has to find an inside linebacker because Larry Foote was awful this year. He finished near the top of dubious rankings like missed tackles and touchdowns allowed by players at his position.

48. Pittsburgh Steelers: Jawan Jamison, RB, Rutgers
Rashard Mendenhall won't be back next year, so the Steelers will need to find a running back to complement Jonathan Dwyer. Jawan Jamison, who declared for the 2013 NFL Draft recently, will bring an element that Pittsburgh's offense has lacked since the days of Willie Parker.

79. Pittsburgh Steelers: Chase Thomas, DE/OLB, Stanford
James Harrison may not be back next year. He'll be due $6.6 million as a 35-year-old who is having trouble staying healthy. The Steelers may spend an early pick on a rush linebacker.

112: Pittsburgh Steelers: Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall
The Steelers never shy away from a play-maker if one provides good value. The butterfingered Mike Wallace could be gone after this season.

RuthlessBurgher
01-15-2013, 09:35 PM
This is totally going to make Ovi sick. How are we ever going to protect our QB? :)

For what it's worth, Walter has OT Eric Fisher and OG Chance Warmack coming off the board immediately before us to the Saints at 15 and Rams at 16. If the most important thing in the world is to protect our QB, then you'd have to pass up on Te'o in order to draft UNC OG Jonathan Cooper instead (who he has slotted to the Colts at 24).

Dee Dub
01-15-2013, 10:09 PM
For what it's worth, Walter has OT Eric Fisher and OG Chance Warmack coming off the board immediately before us to the Saints at 15 and Rams at 16. If the most important thing in the world is to protect our QB, then you'd have to pass up on Te'o in order to draft UNC OG Jonathan Cooper instead (who he has slotted to the Colts at 24).

ESPN's Scouts INC has Warmack rated as number 3 overall player in this draft with the same draft grade as players 1 and 2 (Star Lotulelei and Damontre Moore)

phillyesq
01-15-2013, 10:27 PM
Interesting mock. What I like the best is that there seems to be a number of good options for the Steelers at each spot. For example, Lacy is still available in the second and Jordan in the first, at least in this mock.

RuthlessBurgher
01-15-2013, 10:29 PM
ESPN's Scouts INC has Warmack rated as number 3 overall player in this draft with the same draft grade as players 1 and 2 (Star Lotulelei and Damontre Moore)

Yup...Luke Joekel and Jarvis Jones rounded out the top 5, also grading out as 96's as well. The next 2 players on their list are Mingo and Te'o (both 95's).

They need to update their list now that we know who has declared and who is going back (they still have guys like Lewan, Barr, and Mosley in their top 25).

hawaiiansteel
01-15-2013, 10:38 PM
Interesting mock. What I like the best is that there seems to be a number of good options for the Steelers at each spot. For example, Lacy is still available in the second and Jordan in the first, at least in this mock.

if this mock played out that way, I think I would go:

1) Dion Jordan OLB Oregon
2) Eddie Lacy RB Alabama
3) Ryan Swope WR Texas A&M
4) Philip Thomas S Fresno St

Chadman
01-15-2013, 10:58 PM
Chadman would have no real problem with that draft- all players seem like quality.

Not necessarily what Chadman would do AT THIS STAGE, but without having seen how FA or the Combine play out, those 4 players seem like good selections.

grotonsteel
01-16-2013, 12:36 AM
So Steelers don't have WRs and RBs and they draft a ILB in Rd 1???

What about Sly/Spence?? Have Steelers given up on them??

Then they go on and draft a OLB?? Is Worlids a bust?? Or they are looking for a replacement for Fat Woodley??

This draft is weird and i would be pissed if they go 2 LB in first 3 draft picks..

Jooser
01-16-2013, 08:02 AM
The one thing I do like about that mock is that it addresses the need for playmakers at linebacker, DL's defense needs impact LB's to be effective. Oh and RB, I was going to include the 4th round, but it was unavailable last night, I think it was being updated. :D

Slapstick
01-16-2013, 10:42 AM
So Steelers don't have WRs and RBs and they draft a ILB in Rd 1???

What about Sly/Spence?? Have Steelers given up on them??

Then they go on and draft a OLB?? Is Worlids a bust?? Or they are looking for a replacement for Fat Woodley??

This draft is weird and i would be pissed if they go 2 LB in first 3 draft picks..

It all has to do with value...

All of the players selected are good value at their respective spots...

ILB is a need...there is no doubt...

OLB...who do the Steelers have after Woodley and Worilds? Harrison may be gone...what has Carter done? Robinson?

Oviedo
01-16-2013, 10:58 AM
This is totally going to make Ovi sick. How are we ever going to protect our QB? :)

Note that when we are losing games and missing the play offs next year because Ben is on the sideline hurt!

Seriously though, if we resigned Starks and Foster and kept Colon I would be OK with that draft. If we let all three go then we have hopes and prayers on the OL and we won't have the offense necesasary to be a serious play off team

Sugar
01-16-2013, 11:39 AM
This draft is weird and i would be pissed if they go 2 LB in first 3 draft picks.

I thought about this statement and came to the conclusion that I personally wouldn't be upset no matter who the team picked. They are with these guys every day and know what the organization needs better than I do. I'm just a cheering fan, not running the team or anything. It's just a different perspective I suppose.

Dee Dub
01-16-2013, 12:41 PM
Note that when we are losing games and missing the play offs next year because Ben is on the sideline hurt!

Seriously though, if we resigned Starks and Foster and kept Colon I would be OK with that draft. If we let all three go then we have hopes and prayers on the OL and we won't have the offense necesasary to be a serious play off team

Ben didnt get hurt because of the O-line. He got hurt because he held on to the ball too long. The O-line gave up 37 sacks all last year. Which compared to league average isn't that bad.

Slapstick
01-16-2013, 12:49 PM
Note that when we are losing games and missing the play offs next year because Ben is on the sideline hurt!

Seriously though, if we resigned Starks and Foster and kept Colon I would be OK with that draft. If we let all three go then we have hopes and prayers on the OL and we won't have the offense necesasary to be a serious play off team

Another high pick on the OL would just be another hope and prayer...

steelz09
01-16-2013, 01:06 PM
It all has to do with value...

All of the players selected are good value at their respective spots...

ILB is a need...there is no doubt...

OLB...who do the Steelers have after Woodley and Worilds? Harrison may be gone...what has Carter done? Robinson?

Safety is a must. Hopefully Robert Golden will turn out but who knows. We need a future starter that can see immediate playing time in our sub-packages.

RuthlessBurgher
01-16-2013, 01:14 PM
if this mock played out that way, I think I would go:

1) Dion Jordan OLB Oregon
2) Eddie Lacy RB Alabama
3) Ryan Swope WR Texas A&M
4) Philip Thomas S Fresno St

Always a fun game (and good choices, by the way). I'd probably go something like this:

1. Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame
2. Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
3. Robert Lester, S, Alabama
4. Stepfan Taylor, RB, Stanford

Improvements right down the middle of our aging defense (where Hampton, Foote, Polamalu, and Clark are almost as old as I am). We were interested in Hightower at ILB last year (but DeCastro fell into our laps and was too great of a value to pass up). Spence showed promise in his first camp, but his knee injury was so brutal that I wonder if he will ever be back to being the same player (particularly for someone whose game is based on speed). Te'o can provide Farrior-like leadership from the middle of our defense (which I think was lacking this year). Williams has the versatility to play NT or DE in a 3-4. What they could do is have Williams rotating at NT with Ta'Amu or Fangupo (depending on Alameda's legal status, of course) and moving McLendon over to DE to rotate with Hood, Heyward, and Keisel. McLendon and Hood could potentially also move inside as well. A well-rounded group up front. We need some real depth at safety (Will Allen turns 31 himself this summer), and Lester can learn from Troy and Clark and develop for the future (I probably would have jumped on Eric Reid in round 2 if the Cowboys hadn't nabbed him one spot ahead of us). Taylor is a solid three-down back. He may not "wow" you like other guys who are oozing with natural ability, but he seems to be a hard worker who can run, catch, and block well. My only caveat is if we don't re-sign Max Starks. If that's the case, I don't think we can go into next season with just Gilbert and Adams and Beachum backing them up. In that case, my 4th round pick would be OT Ricky Wagner from Wisconsin instead. Then I might use my 5th round pick on talented, but injury prone RB in Marcus Lattimore...he has first round talent when healthy, but has torn the ACL's (and other ligaments as well) in both knees in the last 2 seasons (horrible for a RB). For a 5th round pick, it's a worthy gamble that he could surprise and turn into a Willis McGahee type in the NFL following horrific college injuries.

bowldog
01-16-2013, 01:26 PM
Get the IL from free agency and the OLB form the draft. A rookie ILB is not going to step right into LeBeau defense right away and we need help NOW.

Dee Dub
01-16-2013, 01:29 PM
Always a fun game (and good choices, by the way). I'd probably go something like this:

1. Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame
2. Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
3. Robert Lester, S, Alabama
4. Stepfan Taylor, RB, Stanford

Improvements right down the middle of our aging defense (where Hampton, Foote, Polamalu, and Clark are almost as old as I am). We were interested in Hightower at ILB last year (but DeCastro fell into our laps and was too great of a value to pass up). Spence showed promise in his first camp, but his knee injury was so brutal that I wonder if he will ever be back to being the same player (particularly for someone whose game is based on speed). Te'o can provide Farrior-like leadership from the middle of our defense (which I think was lacking this year). Williams has the versatility to play NT or DE in a 3-4. What they could do is have Williams rotating at NT with Ta'Amu or Fangupo (depending on Alameda's legal status, of course) and moving McLendon over to DE to rotate with Hood, Heyward, and Keisel. McLendon and Hood could potentially also move inside as well. A well-rounded group up front. We need some real depth at safety (Will Allen turns 31 himself this summer), and Lester can learn from Troy and Clark and develop for the future (I probably would have jumped on Eric Reid in round 2 if the Cowboys hadn't nabbed him one spot ahead of us). Taylor is a solid three-down back. He may not "wow" you like other guys who are oozing with natural ability, but he seems to be a hard worker who can run, catch, and block well. My only caveat is if we don't re-sign Max Starks. If that's the case, I don't think we can go into next season with just Gilbert and Adams and Beachum backing them up. In that case, my 4th round pick would be OT Ricky Wagner from Wisconsin instead. Then I might use my 5th round pick on talented, but injury prone RB in Marcus Lattimore...he has first round talent when healthy, but has torn the ACL's (and other ligaments as well) in both knees in the last 2 seasons (horrible for a RB). For a 5th round pick, it's a worthy gamble that he could surprise and turn into a Willis McGahee type in the NFL following horrific college injuries.

If the Steelers got your first two picks I'd be thrilled. I just dont think Jesse Williams last till pick 48. Everything I read/hear is that he is a first rounder. But you never know. This would be huge for all the players around Williams and Te'o on the Steelers defense. Those two would make the rest better.

Shawn
01-16-2013, 02:35 PM
Not a Jamison fan at all.

fordfixer
01-16-2013, 08:04 PM
Meanwhile back at the real NFL draft no players have been taken off the board at this time...... we now return you to the rest of the Playoffs:-)

NW Steeler
01-16-2013, 08:10 PM
Playoffs? PLAYOFFS?