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SteelCrazy
01-13-2013, 01:11 PM
...bad luck. You can believe injuries is the reason we were left behind. You might just blame the offense (which that may not be far from the truth). Oh, how about blaming it on turnovers. But what it really comes down to is luck, good or bad. That's the only explanation for what caused the Steelers to miss the playoffs for the 1st time in 3 years. The Steelers miss the playoffs every 3 years anyway, so maybe thats the reason. Not matter what you think the reason is, I know I have the answer. It all came down to maybe 1 play.

1 play in 1 game kept us from the playoffs. You can name that play. It really doesnt matter. What does matter is that the style of football the Steelers play comes down to 1 or 2 plays in every game. We dominate on D and keep the scores down so the O can come in and win it or tie it in the 4th Q. That has been the plan since at least 1992. However, this year it just didnt bounce our way when we needed it to. Ben threw ints. and rb's fumbled.

The O averaged 21 pts a game this year. That is pretty low in comparison to other playoff teams. Our D finished 6th in scoring this year allowing 19.6 pts/game. Although that is good, its not quite good enough for our O that has only averaged 22.6 pts/game since Big Ben came in to town in 2004. Even in the heavy pass days of BA, Ben could only average 23 pts/ game.

What all that means is we rely heavily on 1 to 2 plays a game to win it all. We allow our entire season to come down to 1 play and if we fail, we go home. Home is exactly where we are. Forced to watch the Ravens "luck" out a win against Peyton and the Bronco's. If we could only average 27 pts./game we would be 12-4 / 13-3. Our D succeeds year in and year out, but it should. We draft that way. We bring in good FA's that way. We are a defensive minded team that wins and loses by what the D allows. If they allow 19.6 pts/game then we are more than likely sitting home during the playoffs.

The last time we missed the playoffs (2009) the D allowed 20.3 pts/game. In 2006 the D allowed 19.7pts/game. That cant happen with this low scoring O. 1 play decides our season or does it.

Crash
01-13-2013, 01:42 PM
When the Steelers put a priority on points rather than catering to their defense? Let me know.

SteelCrazy
01-13-2013, 02:23 PM
Ben is good for what he is Crash, but he's not Tom Brady or Joe Montana.

Crash
01-13-2013, 03:34 PM
Ben is good for what he is Crash, but he's not Tom Brady or Joe Montana.

Ben wins rings without cheating. Brady hasn't won a ring in 7 years and is 0-2 in Super Bowls without his camera's.

Ben's won more titles since he arrived in 2004.

SteelCrazy
01-13-2013, 03:45 PM
Ben wins rings without cheating. Brady hasn't won a ring in 7 years and is 0-2 in Super Bowls without his camera's.

Ben's won more titles since he arrived in 2004.

True, but Tom Brady went to the SB last year despite his D giving up more than 21 pts per game. Our D has to be the priority for us to succeed.

Crash
01-13-2013, 03:51 PM
True, but Tom Brady went to the SB last year despite his D giving up more than 21 pts per game. Our D has to be the priority for us to succeed.

We don't try to score.

We rest our defense.

SteelCrazy
01-13-2013, 04:19 PM
We don't try to score.

We rest our defense.

That's the ticket

Crash
01-13-2013, 04:41 PM
That's the ticket

Obviously.

8-8.

steelfin
01-13-2013, 06:20 PM
When the Steelers put a priority on points rather than catering to their defense? Let me know.

Where do you get your information? Link?

supersteeler
01-13-2013, 06:36 PM
What the 2012 season really comes down to ?


I would say 1 or two plays in the games we lost by three points, thats the fine line. If we make those plays in just two of those 5 games we might have been in the playoffs.
In the past we might of made those critical plays in the games that would put us over the top.

This is a proud organization, 500 seasons don't sit well when you have a team thats capable of much more. This will be a tough off season with all the issues they have to contend with, but we been there before, the Steelers will bounce back.

DukieBoy
01-13-2013, 07:00 PM
Close close. But out nonetheless.
I think there are some issues to improve upon in the areas of leadership, discipline, and commitment to the common cause.

Dee Dub
01-13-2013, 08:08 PM
Or maybe if the Steeler defense didn't give up 34 points, 26 points, 20 points, 34 points, and 27 points to the lowly Raiders, Titans, Browns, Chargers, and Cowboys, this team might have made it to the playoffs?

This teams lack of success is not just on the offense. The defense was bad at all the wrong times as well.

BradshawsHairdresser
01-13-2013, 08:15 PM
Or maybe if the Steeler defense didn't give up 34 points, 26 points, 20 points, 34 points, and 27 points to the lowly Raiders, Titans, Browns, Chargers, and Cowboys, this team might have made it to the playoffs? This teams lack of success is not just on the offense. The defense was bad at all the wrong times as well. $$$$$$. If this team only works on fixing the offense, it will be a mistake. We need improvement on offense, defense and special teams...as well as in leadership, coaching, and playcalling.

Sugar
01-13-2013, 08:22 PM
Or maybe if the Steeler defense didn't give up 34 points, 26 points, 20 points, 34 points, and 27 points to the lowly Raiders, Titans, Browns, Chargers, and Cowboys, this team might have made it to the playoffs?

This teams lack of success is not just on the offense. The defense was bad at all the wrong times as well.

You're right in the sense that they had their worst games at the wrong times. Most people think in terms of "what have you done for me lately." It seemed like by the end of the season, the Defense was playing fantastically while the Offense flubbed.

BURGH86STEEL
01-13-2013, 08:29 PM
Turnovers and Ben's inability to deliver in crunch time.

squidkid
01-13-2013, 11:41 PM
we would have have been embarrrassed last weekend if we did make the playoffs

ikestops85
01-14-2013, 12:28 PM
Or maybe if the Steeler defense didn't give up 34 points, 26 points, 20 points, 34 points, and 27 points to the lowly Raiders, Titans, Browns, Chargers, and Cowboys, this team might have made it to the playoffs?

This teams lack of success is not just on the offense. The defense was bad at all the wrong times as well.

Really? You are pointing out the Browns game where we gave up 20 points as a defensive problem.:wft

We turned the ball over 7 frickin times (I don't count the last play as a turnover) and you are blaming the defense for giving up 20 points. I consider that as the defense giving us a chance to win the game.

I love how some of you always point out the bad games the defense had and not the bad ones for the offense. How about the crap our offense dropped on the field in the Chiefs game, the Eagles game, the 1st Browns game, the 1st Ravens game and the 2nd Bengals game. Where the hell were they?

Finally, why the hell can't the offense hang a 40 spot on the lowly Cowboys and Chargers defense? Why is it always up to the defense to save the offense's bacon?

Slapstick
01-14-2013, 01:03 PM
Or maybe if the Steeler defense didn't give up 34 points, 26 points, 20 points, 34 points, and 27 points to the lowly Raiders, Titans, Browns, Chargers, and Cowboys, this team might have made it to the playoffs?

This teams lack of success is not just on the offense. The defense was bad at all the wrong times as well.

Really?

Raiders - defense generates a turnover early, offense later turns the ball over on the Steelers 30 yard line...the defense was not good that day, but the offense was hardly blameless...

Titans - Titans block a punt and recover on the Steelers 1 yard line...again, the defense was not good, but, again, special teams made the difference in that game...

Browns - 20 points to the Browns? After 8 turnovers? That's great!!! The defense even scored a TD that game...

Chargers - another case where the defense was not great, but the offense was not blameless...remember the lateral? Down 20-3 and after that it was 27-3...game over...

Cowboys - In the 4th quarter, Antonio Brown fumbles on the Steelers 38...in OT, Roethlisberger throws an INT that puts the Cowboys in FG range...defense not great, offense and special teams, hardley blameless...