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lloydroid
01-02-2013, 04:15 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/62395/roethlisberger-admits-he-rushed-back

After both Ben and Tomlin repeatedly saying Ben's injury had no impact on his play, of course, Ben comes out and basically says, in so many words, that he is too injured to play in the Pro Bowl, which is another way of saying, he was actually pretty injured the last games he played.

Ben is pretty frustrating. On one hand, he really can take a beating and play through some major injuries. On the other, he constantly throws out injuries statuses so he can always use them as a trap door in case he doesn't win. And after saying over and over that no wounds were hurting his play, alas, after the season is over, he races right to alluding that he is still so hurt, that he can't play in the Pro Bowl, AND that his first task at hand is to "get healthy." Many of his stated injuries over the years have been mysterious. Remember when he claimed he had a broken foot or jacked toe, and Cowher said he never even heard such a thing? There have been lots of those.

feltdizz
01-02-2013, 04:19 PM
Ben being Ben...

Slapstick
01-02-2013, 04:46 PM
Ben wasn't 100% healthy when he came back?

Wow. I never would have guessed....

Sure, Not
01-02-2013, 04:49 PM
While I totally agree that Ben can be a drama queen, I think playing in the Pro Bowl is just not what it used to be. All kinds of people drop out every year.

Sugar
01-02-2013, 04:57 PM
Wow, the "drama" analysis is just a bit of a reach here. OK, it's a long reach. It's one thing to be too injured to play when your team is in the playoff hunt and you need to lead your teammates. It's quite another to be too injured to play an all-star game where you can still get hit. How anyone can not get that is beyond me.

lloydroid
01-02-2013, 05:02 PM
While I totally agree that Ben can be a drama queen, I think playing in the Pro Bowl is just not what it used to be. All kinds of people drop out every year.

Oh, that wasn't my point at all. I could care less if he wants to play in PB or not. My point was, this is a thinly veiled (if veiled at all) way of saying he was indeed still hurt the last 3 games, hence, it is kind of an excuse for his poor play. You can totally read that message into his comments, even though, both he and Tomlin were adamant that injuries did not influence his play.

lloydroid
01-02-2013, 05:04 PM
Wow, the "drama" analysis is just a bit of a reach here. OK, it's a long reach. It's one thing to be too injured to play when your team is in the playoff hunt and you need to lead your teammates. It's quite another to be too injured to play an all-star game where you can still get hit. How anyone can not get that is beyond me.

You missed the point, entirely. The point was not about him wanting to play in the PB; the entire point was that he is now saying and implying that he was hurt all along, even though both he and Tomlin have said many times that in no way was Ben's play impacted by an injury. Now he is obviously saying differently. Get it?

SS Laser
01-02-2013, 05:11 PM
Keep haten hater. It really does not matter. Ben at 80% is better then Batch. Maybe he got hurt again in the clev game? He wants to be home with his new born son, not at the pro bowl parting it up. The best part is Ben will be Ben for what 5 years or so more for you to hate. Enjoy.

lloydroid
01-02-2013, 05:16 PM
Keep haten hater. It really does not matter. Ben at 80% is better then Batch. Maybe he got hurt again in the clev game? He wants to be home with his new born son, not at the pro bowl parting it up. The best part is Ben will be Ben for what 5 years or so more for you to hate. Enjoy.

Again, you totally missed the point. Read the above posts where I explained it in detail.

Dee Dub
01-02-2013, 06:23 PM
While I totally agree that Ben can be a drama queen, I think playing in the Pro Bowl is just not what it used to be. All kinds of people drop out every year.

Just curious Not Sure, do you smoke Tarryltons?

eniparadoxgma
01-02-2013, 06:43 PM
OMG LOOK AT ALL THIS DRAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111

Just look!!!

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Yeah, I don't see it either.

steelfin
01-02-2013, 06:54 PM
OMG LOOK AT ALL THIS DRAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111

Just look!!!

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Yeah, I don't see it either.


Agreed....Move along....nothing to see here.....


He injured his throwing shoulder....Do you think it was 100% after such a short time?

Chucktownsteeler
01-02-2013, 07:16 PM
Yawn, yawn

lloydroid
01-02-2013, 07:41 PM
Agreed....Move along....nothing to see here.....


He injured his throwing shoulder....Do you think it was 100% after such a short time?

Gee, I don't know, both Ben and Tomlin said the injury had ZERO effect on his play. Were they lying to us then or lying to us now? Had to be lying at some point - both can't be true.

steelfin
01-02-2013, 08:21 PM
I am not a doctor, nor do I have doctors in my family but I think the answer is pretty obvious....

I find it unrealistic and probably impossible for a shoulder injury (such as the one that Ben had) to the throwing arm of an NFL quarterback to completely heal in the 3 or 4 weeks Ben was out.

I think it was pretty obvious that it was still bothering him as he bounced passes to receivers and grimaced with pain after being hit....

I think that when Ben and Tomlin said the injury had ZERO effect on his play, it was because they did not want to use the injury as an excuse for their performance....Nor open up an questions as to why Batch did not play....

So I guess they were lying to us during the season....I am still not sure where the drama comes in.

proudsteelerfamily
01-02-2013, 08:33 PM
I don't know how you can assume what Ben is doing, or why he is doing it. Are you in his head? Let it go allready.

BradshawsHairdresser
01-02-2013, 08:49 PM
While I totally agree that Ben can be a drama queen, I think playing in the Pro Bowl is just not what it used to be. All kinds of people drop out every year.
It's getting so bad with the Pro Bowl, I wouldn't be surprised to hear the starting QB's are Sanchez and Kolb...

lloydroid
01-02-2013, 08:53 PM
I don't know how you can assume what Ben is doing, or why he is doing it. Are you in his head? Let it go allready.

So, in your world, seeing through BS is not possible? We know exactly why he is doing it: it's a way to say "See, it wasn't really my fault" without saying it directly. Ben always comes up with injury scenarios all the time, while others do not. And you do not realize what that is? How about his mysterious broken toe the one year, when Cowher said he never ever heard of it? Ben always has an injury excuses waiting in the wings, whether during the season or after. He will boldly claim "The injury is not excuse" while at the same time knowing he has created a trap door if he doesn't come through. Is it the end of the world? No. Does it matter that much? Not really. But I still like keeping it real regardless and calling a spade a spade. Keeping it wheel.

pittpete
01-02-2013, 08:58 PM
If Ben was truely still injured then why did he play the meaningless game vs. Cleveland?

lloydroid
01-02-2013, 09:03 PM
If Ben was truely still injured then why did he play the meaningless game vs. Cleveland?

Good question. If Ben wasn't/isn't injured why would he say he isn't healthy enough to play in the PB? If the CLE game was meaningless, and he was hurt, then why did he play in it?

Djfan
01-02-2013, 09:15 PM
Hey Ben, if you ever come here and read this stuff (which I think would be cool!) not many of us here believe this stuff. Have a good day with the family!!

DBR96A
01-02-2013, 09:26 PM
Sometimes it's best to take somebody's comments at face value. This is one of those times.

fordfixer
01-02-2013, 09:26 PM
Hey Ben, if you ever come here and read this stuff (which I think would be cool!) not many of us here believe this stuff. Have a good day with the family!!
:D funny..........

fezziwig
01-02-2013, 09:46 PM
I can understand not feeling well and playing for the team. I can also understand, not feeling well and not wanting to play in a meaningless game.

Sugar
01-02-2013, 09:51 PM
I can understand not feeling well and playing for the team. I can also understand, not feeling well and not wanting to play in a meaningless game.

I think just about all of us can understand that. Just about...

Shawn
01-02-2013, 10:26 PM
Ben wasn't 100% healthy when he came back?

Wow. I never would have guessed....

Lol...yeah hard to believe Ben wasn't 100 percent weeks after sternoclavicular injury on his throwing side. Must mean he is a drama queen.

Shawn
01-02-2013, 10:27 PM
I can understand not feeling well and playing for the team. I can also understand, not feeling well and not wanting to play in a meaningless game.

Good post.

fezziwig
01-02-2013, 11:27 PM
Lol...yeah hard to believe Ben wasn't 100 percent weeks after sternoclavicular injury on his throwing side. Must mean he is a drama queen.

I bet he said ouch when that happened...........what a sissy boy. Yep, foot in a cast, banged up all season, someone breaks his nose, blood everywhere and Ben contnues to play and beat the Ravens. Yeah, he did it all for the drama because you know he's not tough.

fezziwig
01-02-2013, 11:29 PM
Good post.


Thanks............I have my moments.

Mister Pittsburgh
01-02-2013, 11:34 PM
Gee, I don't know, both Ben and Tomlin said the injury had ZERO effect on his play. Were they lying to us then or lying to us now? Had to be lying at some point - both can't be true.
Yeah, they should of said the ribs on his right side were still hurting before playing another NFL team. They wouldn't target him or hit him hard trying to knock him out of the game. Classy players like Taylor wouldn't do that.

skyhawk
01-03-2013, 12:08 AM
Sorry I am late to the Ben bashing party...BUT... Pro Bowl? We he selected as an alternate? Did someone drop out? I missed it. Thanks,

Sure, Not
01-03-2013, 12:26 AM
Just curious Not Sure, do you smoke Tarryltons?

Only when I drink brawndo and watch "ow my balls"

Captain Lemming
01-04-2013, 01:42 PM
Gee, I don't know, both Ben and Tomlin said the injury had ZERO effect on his play. Were they lying to us then or lying to us now? Had to be lying at some point - both can't be true.

Actually they CAN both be true.
You can have an injury causes pain without necessarily affecting your play.
Contrary to your contention Ben has in fact "downplayed" his injury as an excuse.

Even if he feels he can play fine in the PB, if he feel pain throwing resting his arm to heal fully is only logical and has nothing to do with "excusing" his poor play at seasons end.

The only "drama" here is the one in your head.

lloydroid
01-04-2013, 08:05 PM
Actually they CAN both be true.
You can have an injury causes pain without necessarily affecting your play.
Contrary to your contention Ben has in fact "downplayed" his injury as an excuse.

Even if he feels he can play fine in the PB, if he feel pain throwing resting his arm to heal fully is only logical and has nothing to do with "excusing" his poor play at seasons end.

The only "drama" here is the one in your head.

Yea right, he "downplayed" the impact of the injury but then conveniently added in, "I'm not healthy enough to play in the Pro Bowl" but, some how, WAS healthy enough to play in a 100% meaningless game vs. CLE. If you don't grasp the implication, I can't help you.

steelfin
01-04-2013, 08:20 PM
Healthy enough to play for your team in a meaningless game is different than healthy enough to play in a meaningless pro bowl game....

Apparently the Cleveland games was not as meaningless as you make it out to be....at least not to the players.

supersteeler
01-04-2013, 08:37 PM
I'm disappointed the way the season ended for the Steelers AND Ben just like the next guy, but we should all appreaciate Ben even in the bad times.
I can't complain much, he was the starting QB for the Steelers in Three Super Bowls , as a rookie won 15 games, took us to several playoff games, and played hurt many times.
There is no tougher QB in the league, he may not have the skill sets of Manning or Brady but I'll take Ben and glad he's our QB.
I can never recall him calling a teammate out in public or on the field he always takes the blame when the team fails.

SteelCrazy
01-04-2013, 08:42 PM
These athletes get paid millions of dollars and to play the pro-bowl they get like 100,000? They dont need it so why play?