Chan Gailey Is Out!!

[Slapstick]

Quick! Call Ralph Wilson and scoop up their OL coach!!

[phillyesq]

If the Haley to Arizona rumors end up being true, I would call Gailey himself. He was probably my favorite offensive coordinator in Pittsburgh over the last 20 years.

[ikestops85]

If the Haley to Arizona rumors end up being true, I would call Gailey himself. He was probably my favorite offensive coordinator in Pittsburgh over the last 20 years.

I am right with you. Either Gailey or Turner.

[kindlecatsb'ng]

I hope the rumor about Haley to Arizona comes to fruition.

It is evident there is no love lost between Big Ben and Haley. It will only get worse. Ben doesn't have to love his OC but has to have a respectful working relationship. If that cannot be had, then one of them will end up going and my preference is Haley. Sooner than later...

Ben has only 2 options in my thinking to resolve this issue if the Steelers FO keeps Haley:
1. ask for a trade (which the Steelers will decline to do)
2. retire at the first opportunity he can.

This is bad for the Steelers organization as a whole if they want to maintain a high caliber team as they profess.

Ben does not have the same choice that we common people have and that is to "walk out with our feet". He is under contract to the team for "x" $ and "x" amount of years. That leaves him little option.

I do not believe either than Ben is being a baby or has an ego problem. None of us on this board or in the Steeler nation truly knows how it is day-to-day for them to interact and work together. As Tomlin likes to say "our body of work was below what is acceptable". So, hopefully someone will work to fix it. The Steelers have waited a long time for a good franchise QB and they have one now. Why jeopardize that with keeping an OC who is not meshing with the QB.

Maybe Mr. Dan Rooney coming back home will help right this ship.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Kindle
:brownssuck

[D Rock]

I hope the rumor about Haley to Arizona comes to fruition.

It is evident there is no love lost between Big Ben and Haley. It will only get worse. Ben doesn't have to love his OC but has to have a respectful working relationship. If that cannot be had, then one of them will end up going and my preference is Haley. Sooner than later...

Ben has only 2 options in my thinking to resolve this issue if the Steelers FO keeps Haley:
1. ask for a trade (which the Steelers will decline to do)
2. retire at the first opportunity he can.

This is bad for the Steelers organization as a whole if they want to maintain a high caliber team as they profess.

Ben does not have the same choice that we common people have and that is to "walk out with our feet". He is under contract to the team for "x" $ and "x" amount of years. That leaves him little option.

I do not believe either than Ben is being a baby or has an ego problem. None of us on this board or in the Steeler nation truly knows how it is day-to-day for them to interact and work together. As Tomlin likes to say "our body of work was below what is acceptable". So, hopefully someone will work to fix it. The Steelers have waited a long time for a good franchise QB and they have one now. Why jeopardize that with keeping an OC who is not meshing with the QB.

Maybe Mr. Dan Rooney coming back home will help right this ship.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Kindle
:brownssuck


If Ben really does have a problem with Haley and his offense, then he needs to pull his head out of his arse. Haley's offense kept him relatively well protected and efficient. Ben going back to his own style after the injury was a disaster.

[MCHammer]

Not to mention Ben always has a third option and fourth option of simply learning to work with Haley or outlasting him. There has only been 1 season upon which to base all this speculation about Haley and Ben not getting along. I think it is much ado about nothing at this point. There certainly isn't enough evidence to come to the conclusion that we have some sort of 2 men enter, 1 man leaves feud between them.

[kindlecatsb'ng]

I respectfully disagree.

The line did better this year at the beginning; however, with all the injuries and new men rotating in, he did get sacked.

Also, I do not believe he was truly healed enough to play WELL. He was well enough to play.

With no reliable back up QB, there was no choice but to give him a little healing time and put him out there.

These are not little bruises that these men sustain week in and week out.

Haley's offense has not impressed me at all. I believe that it is better to play to someone's strengths than to their weakness. Did Haley truly assess what is Ben's strengths and utilize that type of play? I didn't see it. Couple that with so many injuries and Wallace's hold out and then Ben's unfortunate injury, it doesn't bode well for a Super Bowl Season.

Kind Regards,
Kindle

[Snatch98]

Not to mention Ben always has a third option and fourth option of simply learning to work with Haley or outlasting him. There has only been 1 season upon which to base all this speculation about Haley and Ben not getting along. I think it is much ado about nothing at this point. There certainly isn't enough evidence to come to the conclusion that we have some sort of 2 men enter, 1 man leaves feud between them.

I agree. Haley also isn't going anywhere unless he chooses to go. We aren't the Cleveland Browns, this isn't a Coaching carousel.

[feltdizz]

Hmm... i think Ben was injured because he went back to his old style. I know you cant predict which sack will cause an injury but I felt like the play was over when Ben took that crushing hit.

I know plenty of fans love how Ben never thinks a play is over but its also the reason he is always hurt and our seasons go from promising to disaster on one play.

I'm still pissed at missing the playoffs so bear with me.. just sick of seeing Ben injured every freaking year. Starting to get the impression that he isnt truly playing football if he isnt getting hit. I think Haley did a great job of protecting Ben from himself for much of the season and Ben didnt appreciate him for it.... lol.

[Snatch98]

Hmm... i think Ben was injured because he went back to his old style. I know you cant predict which sack will cause an injury but I felt like the play was over when Ben took that crushing hit.

I know plenty of fans love how Ben never thinks a play is over but its also the reason he is always hurt and our seasons go from promising to disaster on one play.

I'm still pissed at missing the playoffs so bear with me.. just sick of seeing Ben injured every freaking year. Starting to get the impression that he isnt truly playing football if he isnt getting hit. I think Haley did a great job of protecting Ben from himself for much of the season and Ben didnt appreciate him for it.... lol.

I agree. We seemed to go back to the way he was playing before Haley and instead of throwing it away when there weren't options he was getting hammered. He did it PLENTY against the Bengals for example.

[NorthCoast]

Hmm... i think Ben was injured because he went back to his old style. I know you cant predict which sack will cause an injury but I felt like the play was over when Ben took that crushing hit.

I know plenty of fans love how Ben never thinks a play is over but its also the reason he is always hurt and our seasons go from promising to disaster on one play.

I'm still pissed at missing the playoffs so bear with me.. just sick of seeing Ben injured every freaking year. Starting to get the impression that he isnt truly playing football if he isnt getting hit. I think Haley did a great job of protecting Ben from himself for much of the season and Ben didnt appreciate him for it.... lol.

Agree with you feltdizz. Wanting Haley to create an offense around Ben's strengths means 'backyard football' and standing around waiting for the long ball. That's exactly what the Steelers were trying to get away from to prolong his career (whether he appreciated it or not).

[pittpete]

If Ben really does have a problem with Haley and his offense, then he needs to pull his head out of his arse. Haley's offense kept him relatively well protected and efficient.

And look where that got us this year.
If Ben learned to get rid of the ball when in trouble then he wouldn't get hit so much.
This also wouldn't make Ben the special player he is.
Remember that.
Haleys dink and dunk,RUTFM offense was as predictable as the sunrise

[winwithd]

And look where that got us this year.
If Ben learned to get rid of the ball when in trouble then he wouldn't get hit so much.
This also wouldn't make Ben the special player he is.
Remember that.
Haleys dink and dunk,RUTFM offense was as predictable as the sunrise

I agree there was too much RUTFM on first AND second late in the season, specifically against Cincy. It would also have been nice to see more deep shots. I thought most of our success running against Cincy was when he bounced runs outside. Why not try more of that, with Rainey or Mendenhall? Maybe the RUTFM is meant to set up the quick out passes to turn into big plays. I dont know for sure. But I was disappointed in the offense to be sure. 20th in scoring is not good enough. I wouldn't mind a guard early in the draft. I think Colon might be Kemo II, esp with the knee injury.

[D Rock]

And look where that got us this year.
If Ben learned to get rid of the ball when in trouble then he wouldn't get hit so much.
This also wouldn't make Ben the special player he is.
Remember that.
Haleys dink and dunk,RUTFM offense was as predictable as the sunrise

Before Ben's injury?

He had an incredible 3rd down % and their time of possession was great. The offense was going on sustained drives and starting to show something of a running game. I think they were about to turn a corner.

After Ben's injury?

It wasn't the same offense anymore.

[Djfan]

Before Ben's injury?

He had an incredible 3rd down % and their time of possession was great. The offense was going on sustained drives and starting to show something of a running game. I think they were about to turn a corner.

After Ben's injury?

It wasn't the same offense anymore.

This is the reality. Haley's offense looked like it was Turing into something. If we had an edge runner it would have been amazing.

[winwithd]

Before Ben's injury?

He had an incredible 3rd down % and their time of possession was great. The offense was going on sustained drives and starting to show something of a running game. I think they were about to turn a corner.

After Ben's injury?

It wasn't the same offense anymore.

True, but that wasnt translating into a whole lot of points, was it. It seemed like we were 'efficient' til we hit the RED ZONE and I remember thinking it would be nice to score quick (maybe 3 minutes) every once in a while and get the 7 on the board. Instead of hold the ball for 7 minutes and come away with 3.

[winwithd]

This is the reality. Haley's offense looked like it was Turing into something. If we had an edge runner it would have been amazing.

Doesn't Mendenhall have the speed for that? Rainey certainly should. Would have been nice if Haley could have found a way to use it.

[lloydroid]

I am right with you. Either Gailey or Turner.

Then again, what about Whiz coming back to de Burg?

[Jooser]

PFT reporting the Cards want to interview Andy Reid.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/31/bidwell-says-cardinals-will-interview-andy-reid/

Bidwill says Cardinals will interview Andy ReidPosted by Darin Gantt on December 31, 2012, 6:04 PM EST
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/kevin-kolb-e1356995048137.jpg?w=323
Getty ImagesCurrent defensive coordinator Ray Horton was established as a candidate for the Cardinals head coaching job already.
But team president Michael Bidwill just said during a press conference that he was also going to interview (http://twitter.com/kentsomers/statuses/285880666695020545)former Eagles coach Andy Reid and Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy as well, according to Kent Somers of the Arizona Republic.
One of these things is not like the others.
The Cardinals have never been known for their free-spending habits, and Reid represents a significant step up in price-range from Horton or McCoy.
Bidwill also said he was “not ready to give up on Kevin Kolb yet (http://twitter.com/Cardschatter/statuses/285880018452746240),” and that the Kolb issue would be one he brought up with potential candidates.
Reid has already fleeced the Cardinals on Kolb once, so perhaps this would be a chance to make it up to them. The Cardinals gave Reid’s Eagles a second-round pick and cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4715/dominique-rodgers-cromartie) for the right to give Kolb a $63 million contract.
Or it might be Reid’s realization that his market might not be as strong as he’d hoped, and that he might need to take the first chair offered (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/30/when-music-stops-reid-could-be-out-of-luck/).

[Djfan]

Doesn't Mendenhall have the speed for that? Rainey certainly should. Would have been nice if Haley could have found a way to use it.

OK, I'll say what I have not yet, but feared all season. I don't think Rainey is NFL material for long, if at all. Sorry. I REALLY hope I'm wrong.

Mendy just doesn't impress. He reminds me of many players over the years who "have it", but don't show it. I hope we get back to a two set backfield with a bruiser and a skat back. With both threats and Miller, our O will open up, O line being assumed.

[Slapstick]

That's why Rainey was a fifth round pick....

[flippy]

OK, I'll say what I have not yet, but feared all season. I don't think Rainey is NFL material for long, if at all. Sorry. I REALLY hope I'm wrong.
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Rainey's almost identical in size to Wes Welker. He really should get consideration at WR. No way should he be running between the tackles. Although he has a lot of experience.

He's pretty durable for his size. He needs to figure out how to not take a hit. He should watch some Warrick Dunn tape. That guy was the best at avoiding contact.

I'd like to see what Rainey could do if we had an OLine that could keep our RBs clean and get him a hole. We should be sneaking Rainey behind a pulling DD for some huge gains.

[flippy]

I'd love to have Chan doing whatever for us. Heck, he could be an assistant HC to help Tomlin out. I think he's the offensive equivalent of DL on Defense. I'm not sure Tomlin's had anyone to really tutor him on that side of the ball in his career.

Wasn't Chan BC's recommendation for his replacement. I think Cowher generally did a good job picking good assistant coaches. Couple of gaffes. But Chan was one of his good ones.

[Oviedo]

I'd love to have Chan doing whatever for us. Heck, he could be an assistant HC to help Tomlin out. I think he's the offensive equivalent of DL on Defense. I'm not sure Tomlin's had anyone to really tutor him on that side of the ball in his career.

Wasn't Chan BC's recommendation for his replacement. I think Cowher generally did a good job picking good assistant coaches. Couple of gaffes. But Chan was one of his good ones.

Yeah, we need Gailey to be Asst. HC because his record as a HC is so good:rolleyes:

[feltdizz]

Rainey needs to be used in space... every other team with a speed back his size finds a way to get them in the flat or out in space but we are content to run him up the middle.

[Oviedo]

Rainey needs to be used in space... every other team with a speed back his size finds a way to get them in the flat or out in space but we are content to run him up the middle.

Agree. Need to make LBs try to chase Rainey not have him run right at them. Reality is though he is more a slot receiver than RB. Team just needs to use him that way and forget the RB nonsense.