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Dee Dub
12-30-2012, 07:00 PM
If the Rams hold off the Seahawks looks as if the Steelers will be drafting 16th overall. If not, 17th. From what I see at or around that spot there isn't a player who can come in in 2013 and play all that much right off the bat. Eric Reid? Would be a solid pick but with Clark and Polamalu returning, Reid doesn't see much action in year one. Jesse Williams? Another solid pick but does he really see all that much action in year one?

The good news is with the Saints and Browns not having second round picks the Steelers move up two spots. Should be the 46th overall pick. I think this would be a great year to have multiple second round picks. Just gotta find a dance partner.

flippy
12-30-2012, 07:05 PM
Every time we pick, I always think there's a couple guys that we could choose. So I always think we should trade down and then take whoever is left. You could talk me into trading down almost every time we pick. There's a few exceptions, but I never feel like going down 5-10 picks really makes that big a difference once you get out of the first 5-10 picks.

Slapstick
12-30-2012, 07:38 PM
When the Steelers drafted in the teens lately, we've scored Timmons and Pouncey...

I'm not worried about an immediate contributor...just get the best player...

NorthCoast
12-30-2012, 07:40 PM
If the Rams hold off the Seahawks looks as if the Steelers will be drafting 16th overall. If not, 17th. From what I see at or around that spot there isn't a player who can come in in 2013 and play all that much right off the bat. Eric Reid? Would be a solid pick but with Clark and Polamalu returning, Reid doesn't see much action in year one. Jesse Williams? Another solid pick but does he really see all that much action in year one?

The good news is with the Saints and Browns not having second round picks the Steelers move up two spots. Should be the 46th overall pick. I think this would be a great year to have multiple second round picks. Just gotta find a dance partner.

Based on recent Troy injury history, a new safety may get plenty of opportunity to play next season....

Mister Pittsburgh
12-30-2012, 07:44 PM
When the Steelers drafted in the teens lately, we've scored Timmons and Pouncey...

I'm not worried about an immediate contributor...just get the best player...

This ^^^^......although I find it real real hard to believe it should take more than Mimi camps and a training camp to get a NT like Jesse Williams starting.

SS Laser
12-30-2012, 08:01 PM
I think we need a NT. He could be on the team. Also can't see the Steelers having 3 first rounds on the D-line. But if a NT is BPA that is who you pick. I do not think you need a rookie starter. I hope he can contribute but not needing him to be the guy. Pick BPA.

Dee Dub
12-30-2012, 08:02 PM
This ^^^^......although I find it real real hard to believe it should take more than Mimi camps and a training camp to get a NT like Jesse Williams starting.

Well with him having an injured knee right now that may be a problem.

Oviedo
12-30-2012, 09:20 PM
I think we need a NT. He could be on the team. Also can't see the Steelers having 3 first rounds on the D-line. But if a NT is BPA that is who you pick. I do not think you need a rookie starter. I hope he can contribute but not needing him to be the guy. Pick BPA.

Will a Nose Tackle, or any other defensive player, play as a rookie? Unlikely.

Fix the OL with an OG or OT and they will actually be on the field as a rookie learning and contributing. Until we fix the OL we will not be the type of offense we are capable of being.

NJ-STEELER
12-30-2012, 09:24 PM
is the draft tomorrow?

skyhawk
12-30-2012, 09:28 PM
Will a Nose Tackle, or any other defensive player, play as a rookie? Unlikely.

Fix the OL with an OG or OT and they will actually be on the field as a rookie learning and contributing. Until we fix the OL we will not be the type of offense we are capable of being.

Chance Warmack, G, Ala.

RuthlessBurgher
12-30-2012, 09:33 PM
If Dallas loses tonight and falls to 8-8, does that impact our draft slot or doesn't it matter? I'm leaving Pittsburgh now and will be listening to SNF during the ride home and want to know if I should be doing the unthinkable and rooting for Dallas (I sure hope not).

squidkid
12-30-2012, 09:34 PM
chance warmack, g, ala.



exactly....

phillyesq
12-30-2012, 09:51 PM
Will a Nose Tackle, or any other defensive player, play as a rookie? Unlikely.

Fix the OL with an OG or OT and they will actually be on the field as a rookie learning and contributing. Until we fix the OL we will not be the type of offense we are capable of being.

Depends who returns and how quickly the player selected develops. Hampton started as a rookie.

NJ-STEELER
12-30-2012, 09:55 PM
If Dallas loses tonight and falls to 8-8, does that impact our draft slot or doesn't it matter? I'm leaving Pittsburgh now and will be listening to SNF during the ride home and want to know if I should be doing the unthinkable and rooting for Dallas (I sure hope not).


i've read(message board) it doesnt matter. strentgh of scedule gives us the 17th pick

feltdizz
12-30-2012, 10:07 PM
is the draft tomorrow?

It started after week 1.

RuthlessBurgher
12-30-2012, 11:01 PM
i've read(message board) it doesnt matter. strentgh of scedule gives us the 17th pick
Thanks for the info.

pfelix73
12-30-2012, 11:29 PM
I just saw an article showing us picking 14th???

In the end, I could be wrong- not the first time, but after watching today's game and hearing a few things in the local media, they MAY just bring back Wallace (franchise him) and maybe even Hampton- at a reduced rate. Hampton had a decent game and season for the most part, and he really doesn't want to leave Pittsburgh. He's definitely sounding like he wants to keep playing- wherever. I really think we need a big time RB, since our last 1st rd RB never panned out. However, there aren't any right now worthy of a 1st round pick. I say a playmaker that can get to the QB- LB. Or a Safety...? I'm leaning LB since Harrison may not be back based on his salary hit. Gonna need a stud at OLB... How aobut the dude from LSU?

SS Laser
12-31-2012, 12:02 AM
To Dee Dub and others. When has the Steelers drafted with an eye to having a rookie start for a fact? Pouncy was going to have a chance at guard but was good enough to not start at center. I think that was just a bonus. They draft for the future or so it seems to me. Do they plan or hope the rookies can help out, I hope so. I don't want to miss out on a great player like Troy P just because he is not ready to start as a rookie.

Dee Dub
12-31-2012, 01:00 AM
Chance Warmack, G, Ala.

He's probably not in the range of where the Steelers will be drafting. I've seen him top 10 and as high as 5th overall.

Dee Dub
12-31-2012, 01:04 AM
To Dee Dub and others. When has the Steelers drafted with an eye to having a rookie start for a fact? Pouncy was going to have a chance at guard but was good enough to not start at center. I think that was just a bonus. They draft for the future or so it seems to me. Do they plan or hope the rookies can help out, I hope so. I don't want to miss out on a great player like Troy P just because he is not ready to start as a rookie.

There are players in this draft who could start immediately in the NFL. It is all based on whether or not the Steelers want that. Remember Ben Roethlisberger was going to sit his entire year behind Tommy Maddox? It is an organizational philosophy. If the Steelers really want an immediate starter then they will have to change that philosophy.

Slapstick
12-31-2012, 01:06 AM
He's probably not in the range of where the Steelers will be drafting. I've seen him top 10 and as high as 5th overall.

I heard the same thing about DeCastro....

Dee Dub
12-31-2012, 01:10 AM
I heard the same thing about DeCastro....

No, DeCastro was never as highly rated as Warmack. Warmack will grade out much higher than DeCastro.

Chadman
12-31-2012, 01:51 AM
What starting positions need to be filled by rookies next season?

Here's betting the answer starts with Z & sounds like Nero.

NJ-STEELER
12-31-2012, 01:52 AM
He's probably not in the range of where the Steelers will be drafting. I've seen him top 10 and as high as 5th overall.

dont know much about him honestly

but a guard 5th overall??

Dee Dub
12-31-2012, 02:51 AM
What starting positions need to be filled by rookies next season?

Here's betting the answer starts with Z & sounds like Nero.

I think your boy Jesse Williams if his knee is healthy could start from day one. I also believe his teammate CB Dee Milliner could start. I know these guys wont be there when the Steelers pick but I believe they could too...Manti Teo, Jarvis Jones, Star Lotulelei .

Dee Dub
12-31-2012, 02:54 AM
dont know much about him honestly

but a guard 5th overall??

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2013

http://gbnreport.com/top100.html

SCOUTS INC.'S TOP 32


Player
Pos.
School
Grade




1. Star Lotulelei (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/29237)
DT
Utah
96


2. Damontre Moore (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/30227/damontre-moore)*
DE
Texas A&M
96


3. Chance Warmack (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/29233)
G
Alabama
96


4. Luke Joeckel (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/29963)*
OT
Texas A&M
96


5. Jarvis Jones (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/29247)*
OLB
Georgia
96


6. Barkevious Mingo (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/29235)*
DE
LSU
95


7. Manti Te'o (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/29240)
ILB
Notre Dame
95


8. Bjoern Werner (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/30221/bjoern-werner)*
DE
Florida St
95


9. Johnathan Hankins (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/29244)*
DT
Ohio State
95


10. Sylvester Williams (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/29239)
DT
N. Carolina
94

Slapstick
12-31-2012, 10:07 AM
Whether or not Warmack is the fifth best player, there is no way that he goes in the top five. Not even the top ten.

Those teams want premium positions: QB, Left Tackle, an edge rusher, CB, inside rusher, WR....

If he is rated that highly, chances (no pun intended) are that he will last until the teens....