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Mister Pittsburgh
12-28-2012, 06:00 AM
Amazing how identical Foote and Timmons numbers are this year. Timmons has three interceptions, and Foote none, but their other numbers are nearly identical...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10459/lawrence-timmons

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/3656/larry-foote

flippy
12-28-2012, 07:23 AM
Amazing how identical Foote and Timmons numbers are this year. Timmons has three interceptions, and Foote none, but their other numbers are nearly identical...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10459/lawrence-timmons

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/3656/larry-foote

Both had really good years. Foote played as well as anyone could have wanted. I still think Timmons can be better.

Shawn
12-28-2012, 10:24 AM
Foote gets flack but the guy plays to the best of his ability...he has heart. Which is more than I can say for our O.

supersteeler
12-28-2012, 10:30 AM
Both Timmons and Foote played well this season. I don't think the Steelers would release a productive ILB like foote until Spense can prove he is an upgrade. Lets get rid of the deadwood, not players who gave it their all this season.

D Rock
12-28-2012, 10:34 AM
I would go so far as to say that even surrounded by all these other LBs more athletic than he is, Foote 'flashed' the most this season.

Chadman
12-28-2012, 10:37 AM
And if the Steelers get better play from the NT next season, Foote & Timmons might be even better.

Foote is not the problem with this football team, and SHOULD be brought back.

supersteeler
12-28-2012, 10:44 AM
And if the Steelers get better play from the NT next season, Foote & Timmons might be even better.

Foote is not the problem with this football team, and SHOULD be brought back.

I agree 100%, I'll keep driving my opinion that we need a dominate NT, then all the rest will fall into play.

Johnathan Jenkins round #1 >2013 :Steel

Mister Pittsburgh
12-28-2012, 11:26 AM
Will Spence ever get back to being normal, Heath as well, after damaging so many knee ligaments?

BigRob
12-28-2012, 02:06 PM
I agree 100%, I'll keep driving my opinion that we need a dominate NT, then all the rest will fall into play.

Johnathan Jenkins round #1 >2013 :Steel

Replace Jenkins with Jesse Williams and I am with you. Jenkins is NOT a dominate NT. Jesse Williams will be a stud NT in the NFL.

BigRob
12-28-2012, 02:08 PM
Foote and Timmons have very different roles in this defense. Timmons plays quite a bit in coverage on Tight Ends and his role is more varied.

A direct comparison of stats is misleading, however I would bring Foote back. With the right hogs in front of him, he can still play.

phillyesq
12-28-2012, 02:14 PM
Foote and Timmons have very different roles in this defense. Timmons plays quite a bit in coverage on Tight Ends and his role is more varied.

A direct comparison of stats is misleading, however I would bring Foote back. With the right hogs in front of him, he can still play.

Agree. The numbers do not tell the whole story.

I would also like to see Foote return if they can bring him back on a qualified veteran deal. I would like to see him compete with Spence and see Spence win the job by the end of the 2013 season, but Spence is obviously a huge question mark.

BigRob
12-28-2012, 03:39 PM
Agree. The numbers do not tell the whole story.

I would also like to see Foote return if they can bring him back on a qualified veteran deal. I would like to see him compete with Spence and see Spence win the job by the end of the 2013 season, but Spence is obviously a huge question mark.

After that gruesome injury, I'm not sure Spence will be playing football in 2013.

Snatch98
12-28-2012, 03:56 PM
Foote and Timmons have very different roles in this defense. Timmons plays quite a bit in coverage on Tight Ends and his role is more varied.

A direct comparison of stats is misleading, however I would bring Foote back. With the right hogs in front of him, he can still play.

This. It's very misleading because as you said Timmons is all over the field. I also would bring foote back and I agree with you and the others on a nose tackle. If we can get consistent push and someone to eat up two lineman our linebackers will get back to doing what they do best. Getting to the QB. I still don't understand why Hampton saw so many snaps this season especially with what McClendon has shown on several occasions. We also still have Ta'amu tied to the roster.

eniparadoxgma
12-28-2012, 09:39 PM
Both Foote and Timmons had great years, while Foote should be on his way down and Timmons on his way up.

And not to be an ass, but since I've noticed it over five times here lately (in other threads) I thought I'd point out that the word you guys are wanting is "dominant" instead of "dominate".

steelz09
12-28-2012, 09:40 PM
We need to replace Foote.. I'm hoping Spence can fill that role.

Chadman
12-29-2012, 12:35 AM
Both Foote and Timmons had great years, while Foote should be on his way down and Timmons on his way up.

And not to be an ass, but since I've noticed it over five times here lately (in other threads) I thought I'd point out that the word you guys are wanting is "dominant" instead of "dominate".

Wasn't going to say anything, but Chadman was starting to wonder if the USA had decided to use dominant/dominate in different ways to the rest of the English speaking world...

fordfixer
12-29-2012, 01:30 AM
Steelers notebook: Foote: NFL jealous of Steelers success

By Ralph N. Paulk
412-320-7923
Sports Reporter
http://triblive.com/mobile/3188491-81/steelers-harrison-linebacker
Published: Friday, December 28, 2012, 7:24 p.m.
Updated 1 hour ago


Linebacker Larry Foote admits to being a conspiracy theorist, so its only natural that he blames the NFL for the No. 1-ranked defense having nary a player selected for the Pro Bowl.


I believe the NFL doesnt like us because weve been good for so long that people are jealous of us, Foote said. Weve got the most Super Bowl rings, best organization and best fan base. So people just naturally hate us. I think (safety) Ryan Clark and (linebacker) Lawrence Timmons should be starting in the Pro Bowl.


Besides being without receiver Mike Wallace (hip/hamstring) against Cleveland on Sunday at Heinz Field, cornerback Curtis Brown (ankle), linebacker Marshall McFadden (abdomen) and tackle Mike Adams (ankle) also will sit out. Cornerback Keenan Lewis (knee), safety Troy Polamalu (not injury related) and guard David DeCastro (hamstring) are probable. All three practiced Friday.


Linebacker James Harrison didnt back down from statements he made to ESPN last week about tackling players below the knee because of fines defensive players receive for blows to the head. Its going to have to change because if a guy is running across the middle, and at the last second he ducks down and you make incidental helmet contact, its on the defender not to make that contact, Harrison said. So the only way to avoid that is to tackle a guy lower. Harrison said the rules on blows to the head havent changed his style. I dont think Im less aggressive, said Harrison, who has 60 tackles and five sacks.


While his offense struggled during the second half of the season, offensive coordinator Todd Haley expects the kinks to be ironed out when the Steelers report to mini-camp next year. There is no substitute for experience, and then its about what you do with it, he said.


Defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau said his squads biggest improvement was stopping the run, a weakness that cost the Steelers in early-season losses to Tennessee and Oakland. He added the biggest reason for the turnaround was veteran nose tackle Casey Hampton, whose performance made the Steelers fourth best against the run. I think all those guys getting stronger, and some of the young guys that had to transition into new roles, they got stronger as we went along, LeBeau said. Im very proud of this group for staying with it and fighting through a slower start than we wanted.


Jonathan Dwyer, Isaac Redman and Rashard Mendenhall have one last audition for the starting job next year. Of course, thats assuming the Steelers and Mendenhall can work out a deal when his contract expires after Sundays game against Cleveland. Some doubt was cast over the running backs corps when all three were benched after fumbling in the first matchup against Cleveland last month. I appreciated it because it made me want to be perfect, Dwyer said. I wanted to redeem myself. Im more cautious with the ball, but it didnt get into my head psychologically. Mendenhall simply is looking to build on the progress he made against the Bengals last week, when he rushed for a game-high 50 yards.


Lewis, who said his knee bother him for much of last weeks game, practiced Friday but remains uncertain of his available because of a sore hip. I dont know right now, said Lewis, who leads the league with 28 passes defended. Lewis is driven to play by not getting a Pro Bowl invitation. Something he vows to change next season. I promise you Im going next year, said Lewis, who is fourth on the team with 76 combined tackles but no interceptions. I had a chance to sit back and get the feel of what its like to be a starter. Im ready to take my game to the next level.