Why is Pgh favored this game?

[lloydroid]

And it's not by point, they are favored by 5. Recently, Cinci has mostly been playing well and winning (save the last second loss to Dallas) and Pgh is reeling, starting dudes off their couches as DBs.

And, Cinci has some serious weapons at WR. Green is a freak and he will be covered by....dudes we never heard of?

And yet, Pgh is favored. Go figure.

By the way, I do realize how lines are formed.

[pfelix73]

Well then, I guess you answered your own ?....

[lloydroid]

Well then, I guess you answered your own ?....

No, the question remains: why does the betting public think, over all, on average, that Pgh will win by about 5?

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Care to place a wager based on what you think the line should be Roid?

[Mister Pittsburgh]

One annoying thing to me is the past couple games you see our DB's get picked on yet when we face a young DB or backup we don't pick on them and if we do we rarely succeed.

[supersteeler]

Well, I guess because we are playing at home and our past success against the Bengals.
If I was to bet the game I would take the points, I figured we would be favored by 2 1/2 points but @ 5 taking the Bengals would seem logical based on recent games.
I look for a very close game, and if we don't turn the ball over we should win.....we are due don't you think?


Lets Roll......HERE WE GO STEELERS .....HERE WE GO!

[flippy]

Dalton's 0-3 against the Steelers and averages about 130 yards passing per game.

[Eich]

Dalton's 0-3 against the Steelers and averages about 130 yards passing per game.

This - and it's essentially a playoff game. Who does the bettin' public trust in a playoff game? The Bungles? Or the Steelers?

I'm not very confident about the game, given how we've played lately and the current list of injuries. But I can see how we're favored.

[Slapstick]

Why? Because, for some reason, the betting public has more faith in the Steelers than you do...

[feltdizz]

I wouldn't bet on the Steelers... but I wouldn't be surprised if they win by 7. Dalton hasn't shown he can beat us or the Ravens (if I'm not mistaken.)

[MCHammer]

I'm hoping the "back-against-the-wall" mentality takes over and we blow them out, but I wouldn't bet that we cover the spread. Seems we never do against substandard teams, so why would we do so against the Bengals when our secondary is a wreck? Truth is, droid is right. We should not be 5 point favorites in this game.

[lloydroid]

Care to place a wager based on what you think the line should be Roid?

Considering that we will be playing CBs who were on their couch a week ago, no way should Pgh be laying 5. I would think it is closer to a pick em than 5.

[lloydroid]

Dalton's 0-3 against the Steelers and averages about 130 yards passing per game.

Yea, but that was when we had actual NFL caliber CBs in the game.

[NorthCoast]

Dalton's 0-3 against the Steelers and averages about 130 yards passing per game.

Sadly, all of those games are with Ike Taylor covering their #1 WR. Unfortunately, Dallas showed the world that the Steelers No. 1 pass defense is, in reality, a mirage.

[flippy]

Yea, but that was when we had actual NFL caliber CBs in the game.

Doesn't really matter. We'll have Cortez and Keenan available. We're at home. We already beat them. And Ben should be getting back closer to normal.

The betting lines are set to get people to make bets. They really are insignificant sometimes. All the talking heads like the Steelers. So the public likes the Steelers and the bettors like the Steelers. So you have to give bettors a reason to bet Cincy.

[lloydroid]

Doesn't really matter. We'll have Cortez and Keenan available. We're at home. We already beat them. And Ben should be getting back closer to normal.

The betting lines are set to get people to make bets. They really are insignificant sometimes. All the talking heads like the Steelers. So the public likes the Steelers and the bettors like the Steelers. So you have to give bettors a reason to bet Cincy.

I understand how lines work, that being said, they often kind of lag behind in terms of matching reality. That is why I think this line is too high on Pgh's side: recent history is Pgh wins this game. And they still could. But being favored by 5 seems out of line. The best way to win in betting is to realize when reality does not match recent history because the betting public, and talking heads, tend to realize a team is better or worse after weeks of reality setting in. That being said, some betters with a more accurate assessment of the game are chiming in, as the spread has just dropped to 3.5 instead of 5. So, fact is, the dudes setting the line set it too high. I was right.

[flippy]

I understand how lines work, that being said, they often kind of lag behind in terms of matching reality. That is why I think this line is too high on Pgh's side: recent history is Pgh wins this game. And they still could. But being favored by 5 seems out of line. The best way to win in betting is to realize when reality does not match recent history because the betting public, and talking heads, tend to realize a team is better or worse after weeks of reality setting in. That being said, some betters with a more accurate assessment of the game are chiming in, as the spread has just dropped to 3.5 instead of 5. So, fact is, the dudes setting the line set it too high. I was right.

I hear what you're saying. But I think what happened here is they were trying to get people to bet on the Bengals. And the line dropping to 3.5 means they must have gotten the money flowing the way they wanted.

Look at it from this perspective. The Steelers or Bengals could easily rout the other. Who knows what team will show up. I suspect a lot of people wouldn't bet on this game because of the uncertainty of who's gonna show up for both sides. So they had to slant it a little uneven to bring the bets.

So you're right, this game shouldn't be this far apart. But at the same time, if the line was close, I'm not sure how many people would have bet and Vegas doesn't make as much money on the action.

[lloydroid]

I hear what you're saying. But I think what happened here is they were trying to get people to bet on the Bengals. And the line dropping to 3.5 means they must have gotten the money flowing the way they wanted.

Look at it from this perspective. The Steelers or Bengals could easily rout the other. Who knows what team will show up. I suspect a lot of people wouldn't bet on this game because of the uncertainty of who's gonna show up for both sides. So they had to slant it a little uneven to bring the bets.

So you're right, this game shouldn't be this far apart. But at the same time, if the line was close, I'm not sure how many people would have bet and Vegas doesn't make as much money on the action.

Good point. If I bet it, at 5, I would have to take Cinci. Even at 3.5, I would tend to take them. Might cover by that 1/2 point. But I generally don't bet for or against Pgh; it never seems to work out. Seems like a can't win situation.

[flippy]

Good point. If I bet it, at 5, I would have to take Cinci. Even at 3.5, I would tend to take them. Might cover by that 1/2 point. But I generally don't bet for or against Pgh; it never seems to work out. Seems like a can't win situation.

I remember hearing never bet on a Pittsburgh game growing up like it was the gospel.

Might not be true and might just be cause I pay attention to the Steelers, but there seem to be a lot of fishy games vs the spread.

[lloydroid]

Doesn't really matter. We'll have Cortez and Keenan available. We're at home. We already beat them. And Ben should be getting back closer to normal.


Why do I feel like once the game starts, one or both of those guys will get hurt? It should be unlikely but the way our season has been going with injuries I have no confidence that our DBs will stay healthy. It's crazy.

[lloydroid]

I remember hearing never bet on a Pittsburgh game growing up like it was the gospel.

Might not be true and might just be cause I pay attention to the Steelers, but there seem to be a lot of fishy games vs the spread.

I totally have seen very fishy games. I think since Pgh is such a high profile team means they always have lots of $ being in play in their games. The SD game a few years ago when they called back the Polamalu TD at the end of the game, that would have had Pgh cover the spread was beyond bull sh-t. No one can convince me the fix wasn't in on that one. There was no logical reason to call that TD back, and it was a $9 million swing to the bookies JUST in Vegas alone. I don't know how they do it (get to the refs) but they definitely DO IT. I am guess a bowling ball bag in an airport or bus locker could be involved. Even if these refs make well over six figures between their jobs, they could easily be swayed by $25-$50 k to make lopsided calls. $25k is nothing compared to what the bookies, mob, Vegas make out of it. NOTHING.

[Ghost]

If Victorian is playing the line should be Bengals -14.

[lloydroid]

If Victorian is playing the line should be Bengals -14.

Or Curtis Brown for that matter. Or Knight. Uhg.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Or Curtis Brown for that matter. Or Knight. Uhg.

Knight? I say "nee" to that one. ;)