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Steelhere10
12-16-2012, 06:22 PM
ARE AWFUL. You are missing cb but yet you don't give help or hurry Romo. And Haley your best player is Ben yet you take the ball out of his hands in crucial plays. Please get the job in Arizona you have been terrible as of late.

Mister Pittsburgh
12-16-2012, 06:29 PM
Our Wr are soft. All small guys. Our OL sucks. Our defense looks horrible. Their Wr are catching passes with ease.

Steelhere10
12-16-2012, 06:35 PM
There must be only a couple of plays in Haley playbook, wtf was that on 3rd and 2 and 3rd and 5.

hawaiiansteel
12-16-2012, 06:55 PM
There must be only a couple of plays in Haley playbook, wtf was that on 3rd and 2 and 3rd and 5.

in the movie Remember The Titans, Denzel Washington only ran 6 plays and the Titans won the Championship...:D

Steelhere10
12-16-2012, 06:58 PM
in the movie Remember The Titans, Denzel Washington only ran 6 plays and the Titans won the Championship...:D
Lol they only score when Ben calls the plays. Wtf make him the coordinator.

Steelhere10
12-16-2012, 07:22 PM
3rd and 5 @ the 50yrd and you run a 1wr set. Wow that was brilliant.

Mister Pittsburgh
12-16-2012, 07:29 PM
Lebeau's gameplan sucks. 12 yard cushions on 3rd & short all day long.

Steelhere10
12-16-2012, 07:30 PM
Lebeau's gameplan sucks. 12 yard cushions on 3rd & short all day long.Playing not to lose mentally will have you losing every time.

Mister Pittsburgh
12-16-2012, 08:49 PM
That's what you get when you only throw to the sidelines. The fastest WR in the NFL made no effort to get him down.

Va Steelr
12-16-2012, 09:12 PM
all good points

eniparadoxgma
12-16-2012, 09:14 PM
That's what you get when you only throw to the sidelines. The fastest WR in the NFL made no effort to get him down.

I don't agree that we only throw to the sidelines, however that seems to be all the opposing O needs to do to move the ball up the field on us. I do agree that Wallace could have tackled that guy while he was on the ground on the INT (and said so in the chat).

DukieBoy
12-16-2012, 09:19 PM
Looked to me like Wallace rounded off his cut to the sideline and had upfield momentum making it easy to undercut the route, then he stumbled upfield and out of bounds. Not sure how much of a chance he had to touch the interceptor down. Would like to see a replay closely.

winwithd
12-16-2012, 09:23 PM
Bad play call in my opinion. You only need 4 yards. Heath is having a big game. I say its on Ben cuz they were in no huddle.

Mister Pittsburgh
12-16-2012, 09:39 PM
I don't agree that we only throw to the sidelines, however that seems to be all the opposing O needs to do to move the ball up the field on us. I do agree that Wallace could have tackled that guy while he was on the ground on the INT (and said so in the chat).

85% or more of our passes are outside the hashes...didn't mean 'right along the sideline.

Oviedo
12-17-2012, 09:29 AM
Lebeau's gameplan sucks. 12 yard cushions on 3rd & short all day long.

LeBeau put his template defense out there. Why would you expect anything else even when we couldn't pressure Romo playing behind one of the worst OLs in the league. Rush just three and four whether it works or not.

steelblood
12-17-2012, 09:56 AM
I don't know why we are focusing on the offense and defense.

We lost this game on special teams. The fumble on our PR and the long Dallas KR in OT were the worst plays of the game. We've been losing on special teams all year long.

phillyesq
12-17-2012, 10:19 AM
LeBeau put his template defense out there. Why would you expect anything else even when we couldn't pressure Romo playing behind one of the worst OLs in the league. Rush just three and four whether it works or not.

Lebeau has to get some credit here. After the big return, I was pretty certain that the Cowboys would score. They did not need much at to get into FG range, yet the D held, despite not even having Lewis.

RuthlessBurgher
12-17-2012, 01:30 PM
LeBeau put his template defense out there. Why would you expect anything else even when we couldn't pressure Romo playing behind one of the worst OLs in the league. Rush just three and four whether it works or not.

There is no need to help out our 4th and 5th string corners and the 5th string safety playing nickel corner in coverage against the likes of Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, and Jason Witten. Just go blitz happy and leave our inexperienced practice squad players alone on an island against those All-Pro types...I'm sure that would have worked better.

Oviedo
12-17-2012, 01:57 PM
There is no need to help out our 4th and 5th string corners and the 5th string safety playing nickel corner in coverage against the likes of Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, and Jason Witten. Just go blitz happy and leave our inexperienced practice squad players alone on an island against those All-Pro types...I'm sure that would have worked better.


Could it have worked worse. Romo completed like 30 passes and had all day to throw. The only time his throws were off was when he got pressured. I would assume there is a link there.

papillon
12-17-2012, 02:36 PM
Could it have worked worse. Romo completed like 30 passes and had all day to throw. The only time his throws were off was when he got pressured. I would assume there is a link there.

In the fourth quarter the Steelers' defense managed to make the necessary stops and gave the STs and offense a chance to win the game, in my mind, the defense did enough at a crucial moment and then, of course, a great return leading by 7 and a chance to make it a two score game and burn clock, but careless ball security and a weak fumble costs the Steelers dearly. They simply couldn't capitalize when the opportunity arose, the defense gets spanked most of the game, but makes critical stops, the offense struggles early, then gets the lead, the STs play okay, but then put the ball on the ground right when the offense was clicking and the offense doesn't get a chance to ice the game.

It was like watching the entire season in one game.

Pappy

Eddie Spaghetti
12-17-2012, 02:56 PM
blaming lebeau for this one doesn't hold water. He can't go out there and tackle too. As ruthless noted, he was down to "ups drivers" at that point and still they managed to get a critical stop and hand the ball to that talented offense we have here.

defense is far from perfect, but I'm much more concerned with the other side of the ball.

and lets not even start on special teams. I really would like to know the reasoning behind firing the coach halfway thru the preseason. Somebody needs to answer for that.

phillyesq
12-17-2012, 05:29 PM
blaming lebeau for this one doesn't hold water. He can't go out there and tackle too. As ruthless noted, he was down to "ups drivers" at that point and still they managed to get a critical stop and hand the ball to that talented offense we have here.

defense is far from perfect, but I'm much more concerned with the other side of the ball.

and lets not even start on special teams. I really would like to know the reasoning behind firing the coach halfway thru the preseason. Somebody needs to answer for that.

The special teams have been awful and a lot of it seems to be coaching related. Maybe AB has complete autonomy to determiene where he lines up for a punt, but isn't there a bit of a coaching responsibility there? And that is to say nothing of the penalties.

Eddie Spaghetti
12-17-2012, 05:51 PM
AB had a complete meltdown yesterday. No kind way to put it. Ne admitted that he got gun shy and let that last punt drop in front of him. I don't think he wanted any part of catching and subsequently backed up to far. I hope I'm wrong because that's not a mindset you want from your star receiver.

I cringe everytime butler goes out there now. I think he had two yesterday that he put into the EZ for 50 yards net combined. We are getting killed in that area as other teams punters are putting us in a hole consistently.

flippy
12-17-2012, 06:03 PM
AB had a complete meltdown yesterday. No kind way to put it. Ne admitted that he got gun shy and let that last punt drop in front of him. I don't think he wanted any part of catching and subsequently backed up to far. I hope I'm wrong because that's not a mindset you want from your star receiver.

I cringe everytime butler goes out there now. I think he had two yesterday that he put into the EZ for 50 yards net combined. We are getting killed in that area as other teams punters are putting us in a hole consistently.

I went bonkers when Butler kicked a coffin corner kick to midfield after punting directly into the endzone on his previous punt. He started off the season bad and has gotten progressively worse. We deserve a good punter. Usually the best Ds have some of the best punters. Except us.

RuthlessBurgher
12-17-2012, 07:05 PM
Suisham was hot garbage last year, but the team obviously saw something in him that none of us saw, and they kept him around (in spite of all of our protesting to the contrary) and dude has been absolute money this year.

Perhaps we see the same trajectory with Butler going into next season. One can only hope.

Oviedo
12-18-2012, 08:56 AM
Suisham was hot garbage last year, but the team obviously saw something in him that none of us saw, and they kept him around (in spite of all of our protesting to the contrary) and dude has been absolute money this year.

Perhaps we see the same trajectory with Butler going into next season. One can only hope.

I agree. Butler is a rookie who can get better. He isn't this teams problem.

steelfin
12-18-2012, 09:19 AM
The team has many problems....At times, I agree the Butler is one of them....

He has done a decent job this year but his leg appears weak...I would say he is average or probably closer to below average as a punter...Often times we lose the field position battle and rarely does Butler provide a booming punt that changes the field position battle.

How many times has the Ravens punter changed field position with a great punt?

But then again, our offense wouldn't know what to do with good field position any way so this a moot point....The offense is very proficient at squandering field position after big special teams plays or turn-overs...