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SteelCrazy
12-13-2012, 11:56 AM
You may have heard of this quarterback by the name of*Joe Montana. His storied tenure as the signal caller for the San Francisco 49ers is one of the greatest stories about a quarterback in NFL history.

His time in a Niners uniform was cut short when*Steve Young*came to town and the team opted to ship him to Kansas City. It was a trade that Montana orchestrated; but Kansas City wasn’t at the top of his list for trade destinations. That honor would go to the Pittsburgh Steelers. But on The*Dan Patrick*Show recently, Montana raised a few eyebrows when he explained why Pittsburgh said no.

Montana, asked about Pittsburgh said:*“Oh yeah. I tried to go there before, when I was looking at Kansas City, and they said no. I think O’Donnell was stil there.”
Patrick:*“Wait, Steelers said no because they had Neil O’Donnell?”
Montana: “Yeah, Neil O’Donnell.”

Really, Pittsburgh? Passing up one of the all-time greats for Neil O’Donnell? Sounds pretty crazy to me.

http://live.drjays.com/index.php/2012/12/13/joe-montana-says-he-wanted-to-be-a-pittsburgh-steeler-but-neil-odonnell-got-in-the-way/

Ghost
12-13-2012, 12:36 PM
Read that today as well: http://arrowheadaddict.com/2012/12/11/joe-montana-wanted-to-go-to-steelers-over-chiefs/

Montana said - " It would have been fun to play for them, finish off your career back at home. That would have been fun. And they had a pretty good team, too. That was the other part of it."

RuthlessBurgher
12-13-2012, 12:41 PM
Montana was 37 years old when he left S.F. for K.C. He only played 2 years there before retiring. Would Montana in his late 30's have been better than a decade-younger O'Donnell? Their numbers for those 2 seasons are pretty darned close.

Montana in 1993: 181-298, 60.7%, 2144 yards, 13 TD, 7 INT
Montana in 1994: 299-493, 60.6%, 3283 yards, 16 TD, 9 INT

O'Donnell in 1993: 270-486, 55.6%, 3208 yards, 14 TD, 7 INT
O'Donnell in 1994: 212-370, 57.3%, 2443 yards, 13 TD, 9 INT

Plus, remember that we went to the Super Bowl with O'Donnell the year after Montana retired.

Sure, we lost a playoff game to Montana's Chiefs in overtime, but it wasn't because Montana outplayed O'Donnell in that game:

Neil O'Donnell 23-42, 286 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT
Joe Montana 28-43, 276 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT

Gus
12-13-2012, 12:44 PM
Not so crazy really. It cost the Chiefs safety David Whitmore and a 1994 3rd round pick for 2 years of Montana's services. Montana was 37 years old by the beginning of the '93 season. O'Donnell was 27.
The #s put up by both QBs during the 1993 and 1994 seasons were fairly comparable.
I understand wanting to have seen Montana in black and gold, but I don't think we lost out on much there.

Slapstick
12-13-2012, 12:47 PM
Not so far fetched...

Montana was clearly at the end of his career in 1993 and 1994, the two years that he played in KC...

Side-by-side, here's how it looks for those two years between O'Donnell and Montana:

O'Donnell: 26 starts - 856 attempts - 458 completions - 53.5% - 5651 yards - 27 TDs - 16 INTs - 6.6 YpA - 76.9 Rtg - 19-10 record as starter - 1-2 in playoffs
Montana: 25 starts - 791 attempts - 480 completions - 60.6% - 5427 yards - 29 TDs - 16 INTs - 6.9 YpA - 85 Rtg - 17-8 record as a starter - 2-2 in playoffs

Of course, one of those playoff victories for Montana was vs Pittsburgh...

Also, could Montana have led the game winning drive in the 1994 AFCC against San Diego where O'Donnell got so close but failed to do so?

Cowher was still a young coach at that point and perhaps didn't want to deal with the addition of a Montana to the team he was trying to build...who knows?

feltdizz
12-13-2012, 12:47 PM
O'Donnell was good before the SB collapse... but he threw a lot of balls high over the middle that got our WR's popped. If we had Montana I'm pretty sure we would have seen better production and it was mission impossible for the guy to throw an INT in the playoffs.

RuthlessBurgher
12-13-2012, 12:55 PM
Not so crazy really. It cost the Chiefs safety David Whitmore and a 1994 3rd round pick for 2 years of Montana's services. Montana was 37 years old by the beginning of the '93 season. O'Donnell was 27.
The #s put up by both QBs during the 1993 and 1994 seasons were fairly comparable.
I understand wanting to have seen Montana in black and gold, but I don't think we lost out on much there.

Actually, the Chiefs received Montana, David Whitmore and a 1994 3rd round pick from the Niners.

In exchange, the Niners got the 18th overall pick in the 1993 draft from the Chiefs.

No way I'd give up a first round pick for a 37 year old who had only played 1 game in the previous 2 seasons.

Slapstick
12-13-2012, 01:07 PM
Actually, the Chiefs received Montana, David Whitmore and a 1994 3rd round pick from the Niners.

In exchange, the Niners got the 18th overall pick in the 1993 draft from the Chiefs.

No way I'd give up a first round pick for a 37 year old who had only played 1 game in the previous 2 seasons.

We would have missed out on Deon Figures...

Oviedo
12-13-2012, 01:12 PM
Cowher also wanted Shawn Andrews for OT over Big Ben. So much for his opinion.

RuthlessBurgher
12-13-2012, 01:17 PM
We would have missed out on Deon Figures...

Figures might have developed into a quality player if he hadn't been shot in the leg through his car door.

Slapstick
12-13-2012, 02:24 PM
Figures might have developed into a quality player if he hadn't been shot in the leg through his car door.


I know. I was lamenting the fact that Figures didn't pan out more than the loss of Montana...

steelz09
12-13-2012, 02:27 PM
Montana was 37 years old when he left S.F. for K.C. He only played 2 years there before retiring. Would Montana in his late 30's have been better than a decade-younger O'Donnell? Their numbers for those 2 seasons are pretty darned close.

Montana in 1993: 181-298, 60.7%, 2144 yards, 13 TD, 7 INT
Montana in 1994: 299-493, 60.6%, 3283 yards, 16 TD, 9 INT

O'Donnell in 1993: 270-486, 55.6%, 3208 yards, 14 TD, 7 INT
O'Donnell in 1994: 212-370, 57.3%, 2443 yards, 13 TD, 9 INT

Plus, remember that we went to the Super Bowl with O'Donnell the year after Montana retired.

Sure, we lost a playoff game to Montana's Chiefs in overtime, but it wasn't because Montana outplayed O'Donnell in that game:

Neil O'Donnell 23-42, 286 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT
Joe Montana 28-43, 276 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT

Not even comparable. Montana wouldn't have lost the SB by throwing those 2 INT. It still makes me think O'Donnell thru the game on purpose.

Iron Shiek
12-13-2012, 02:36 PM
But could Joe Montana bench press 600 lbs?

Pfft...easy decision...

:)

Slapstick
12-13-2012, 02:39 PM
Not even comparable. Montana wouldn't have lost the SB by throwing those 2 INT. It still makes me think O'Donnell thru the game on purpose.

He definitely wouldn't have since he retired the year before...:p

flippy
12-13-2012, 03:12 PM
But could Joe Montana bench press 600 lbs?

Pfft...easy decision...

:)

Best post ever.

lloydroid
12-13-2012, 04:35 PM
Don't forget, Montana needed a Brink's truck worth of $, and was old. That is a totally non-Steeler move to go that route: pay premium $ for an old QB in free agency. That's just not gonna ever happen in Pgh, period.

Starlifter
12-13-2012, 04:42 PM
Montana liked to throw to the tight end. Not a good fit for Pittsburgh.......:HeadBanger

RuthlessBurgher
12-13-2012, 04:54 PM
Montana liked to throw to the tight end. Not a good fit for Pittsburgh.......:HeadBanger

Eric Green made the Pro Bowl in both 1993 and 1994 (63 catches for 942 yards and 5 TD's and 46 catches for 618 yards and 4 TD's, respectively).

lloydroid
12-13-2012, 05:49 PM
Eric Green made the Pro Bowl in both 1993 and 1994 (63 catches for 942 yards and 5 TD's and 46 catches for 618 yards and 4 TD's, respectively).

Green was a bum; he threw a late night party the night before the AFCC game vs. SD. And we all saw all grand that turned out. Pathetic.

flippy
12-13-2012, 06:26 PM
Eric Green made the Pro Bowl in both 1993 and 1994 (63 catches for 942 yards and 5 TD's and 46 catches for 618 yards and 4 TD's, respectively).

I remember going to a game during the Green years and sitting in the 2nd row on the 45 right behind the Steelers bench. Green stood directly in front of us most of the game and he might have been the inspiration for Kim K's butt implant. I've never seen a butt so large on a guy. His legs were the size of a normal sized man.

There was another Steeler back then. Can't remember who it was, but I think he wore #60. That dude was round. He stood next to Green a lot and he made Casey Hampton look svelte.

Shoe
12-13-2012, 10:44 PM
I remember going to a game during the Green years and sitting in the 2nd row on the 45 right behind the Steelers bench. Green stood directly in front of us most of the game and he might have been the inspiration for Kim K's butt implant. I've never seen a butt so large on a guy. His legs were the size of a normal sized man.

There was another Steeler back then. Can't remember who it was, but I think he wore #60. That dude was round. He stood next to Green a lot and he made Casey Hampton look svelte.

I remember a ham and egger named Brian Blankenship who wore that number. He wasn't huge though.

I do recall (to your story), Green standing next to Terry O'Shea (another ham and egger)... they were both TEs. And Green's legs/butt next to O'Shea... it was comical to say the least.

As for this thread--DAMN. How awesome would it have been!

flippy
12-14-2012, 07:01 AM
I remember a ham and egger named Brian Blankenship who wore that number. He wasn't huge though.

I do recall (to your story), Green standing next to Terry O'Shea (another ham and egger)... they were both TEs. And Green's legs/butt next to O'Shea... it was comical to say the least.

As for this thread--DAMN. How awesome would it have been!

I can't remember who it was. Maybe Blankenship?

I tried looking up who it could be and had some fun browsing through this doc:
http://prod.static.steelers.clubs.nfl.com/assets/docs/2012_Roster_Number.pdf

I never realized someone once wore 00. Also didn't know Mean Joe started out with #72 his rookie year. It was also interesting to see the last time certain numbers were used. Like 70, 12, 32, 36, 52, 58, 75.... The most interesting nugget was Ham's jersey was used for a year after he was gone. Seems a little disrespectful in comparison to some of the other jersey numbers that haven't been used again.

MeetJoeGreene
12-14-2012, 01:22 PM
Cowher also wanted Shawn Andrews for OT over Big Ben. So much for his opinion.

Yeah.. but he also took Tee Martin over Tom Brady