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steelz09
12-10-2012, 12:10 PM
I didn't see a thread on this so here we go...

What did you guys think of Josh Victorian?

Yes, he got beat to the endzone as did Keenan Lewis in a similar fashion and he was visibly upset at himself. It's like he knew he got caught peaking into the backfield and he recognized it but it was too late.

He replaced Curtis Brown who had every opportunity to step up this game and failed miserably.

Victorian still shows very good closing speed IMO and will attack the ball. It's a tone he set in preseason.

All in all, he may not be much of anything.. it's too early to tell. I think he shows good "potential" (i hate that word). To put a positive spin on things, he got thrown into action for the first time after being on the PS all year and gained some gameday experience.

flippy
12-10-2012, 12:19 PM
I like him. He seems to be a good athlete and has good instincts. Time will prove out his worth.

Oviedo
12-10-2012, 12:24 PM
I didn't see a thread on this so here we go...

What did you guys think of Josh Victorian?

Yes, he got beat to the endzone as did Keenan Lewis in a similar fashion and he was visibly upset at himself. It's like he knew he got caught peaking into the backfield and he recognized it but it was too late.

He replaced Curtis Brown who had every opportunity to step up this game and failed miserably.

Victorian still shows very good closing speed IMO and will attack the ball. It's a tone he set in preseason.

All in all, he may not be much of anything.. it's too early to tell. I think he shows good "potential" (i hate that word). At the end of the day

Brown had a bad game but it was the first I recall. His previous action has looked good.

Way too early for Victorian to know anything.

SidSmythe
12-10-2012, 12:45 PM
Victorian's looks like he has good speed as Brown looks like he's struggling to get outta 2nd gear.

Oviedo
12-10-2012, 12:48 PM
Victorian's looks like he has good speed as Brown looks like he's struggling to get outta 2nd gear.

If anything, I think Brown was playing too fast yesterday and over committing. His speed isn't an issue, playing under control was an issue yesterday for him. Way too aggressive.

phillyesq
12-10-2012, 12:59 PM
Brown looked almost as bad yesterday as he did in the preseason, when he was torched routinely. I didn't key on Victorian, but as steelz09 pointed out, he did show good instincts and closing speed in the preseason.

I was suprised that Victorian played over Van Dyke, since Van Dyke has been on the active roster longer.

Shawn
12-10-2012, 02:05 PM
Brown had a bad game but it was the first I recall. His previous action has looked good.

Way too early for Victorian to know anything.

I recall Brown having a poor showing or two last season as well. It takes time, and Brown is no exception. I do think he will pan out...he has the tools to be a good one.

Eddie Spaghetti
12-10-2012, 02:21 PM
I was disappointed brown was pulled.

you have to let him stay out there and take some lumps if he is going to improve.

flippy
12-10-2012, 04:11 PM
Anyone notice on the TD pass Brown gave up by trying to jump the route, when Brown turned to run, he took some really weird choppy steps like he either just crapped his pants or was running in slow motion in a dream.

I remember being bummed when we drafted Brown thinking I wanted us to take Allen instead. I figured Brown could be a Deshea Townsend one day and Allen could be Ike with ball skills.

I thought Brown was a decent cover guy in college, but he seems to struggle with it now. I was worried Allen would struggle with the transition and he hasn't.

I thought Lewis was garbage and he's not. Sometimes I'm so far off on a guy, but I woulda benched Brown yesterday. But then again I get Tomlin brain in the heat of the moment.

feltdizz
12-10-2012, 04:40 PM
Not sure anyone could defend that pass in the endzone... he high pointed the ball and made a great catch.

ikestops85
12-10-2012, 06:09 PM
Not sure anyone could defend that pass in the endzone... he high pointed the ball and made a great catch.

That's what I was thinking. I really thought Victorian had good coverage but the receiver was great going up for the ball. Maybe Wallace can use that play as a training video. :rolleyes:

lloydroid
12-10-2012, 06:35 PM
Brown had a bad game but it was the first I recall. His previous action has looked good.

Way too early for Victorian to know anything.

Brown got beat like a red-headed step child all pre-season. Then he looked decent a few weeks ago, but he got toasted, just like he did in the pre-season on a double move. He is easy to sucker. Still could be a decent nickel or dime guy, though. But to leave him out on the wides seems to be a very bad move.

Keyplay1
12-10-2012, 08:26 PM
Not sure anyone could defend that pass in the endzone... he high pointed the ball and made a great catch.

I thought so too. SD had already put up 27 points and were now in a zone. Everything they did worked. Too bad. Victorian contested that pass and well, the guy was 6 5 or 6 6 and as you said it was a perfectly thrown ball. Victorian went up after it and just could not reach it. So instead of the kid making a great play the Charger guy did. That's the kind of day it was.

SidSmythe
12-10-2012, 11:25 PM
That's what I was thinking. I really thought Victorian had good coverage but the receiver was great going up for the ball. Maybe Wallace can use that play as a training video. :rolleyes:

I think Victorian overplayed him...playing man to man you should be trailing the WR slightly. So he couldn't make a play on the ball b/c the WR was in better position to catch the ball. I think he's got very good speed, he just needs work.

skyhawk
12-11-2012, 03:25 AM
I thought beltin Delton Hall had been reincarnated when I saw Victorian. I was like, "who the F is that?"

Snatch98
12-11-2012, 03:47 AM
Not sure anyone could defend that pass in the endzone... he high pointed the ball and made a great catch.

Yea it was a nice catch and way up there, would have been a tough ball for anyone to defend. A jarring hit would have been required to knock it loose or a big a$$ corner like Sean Smith from Miami.

feltdizz
12-11-2012, 10:06 AM
Only think Victorian could do was beat him up on the way down but he caught it like a big man in basketball... he never brought the ball down where Victorian could strip it.

D Rock
12-11-2012, 11:11 AM
Perhaps Brown's problem is that he has spent the past couple years working so much as a punt gunner and not enough in-game as a corner.

On that double move Alexander beat him with, that's almost what he looked like was a gunner with how aggressive he was trying to play it.

SidSmythe
12-11-2012, 11:33 AM
Perhaps Brown's problem is that he has spent the past couple years working so much as a punt gunner and not enough in-game as a corner.

On that double move Alexander beat him with, that's almost what he looked like was a gunner with how aggressive he was trying to play it.

That's some serious speculation....I highly doubt this is the case.

How much film study or field time can one man really spend practicing his GUNNER MOVES as opposed to practicing coverage skills.

D Rock
12-11-2012, 11:50 AM
That's some serious speculation....I highly doubt this is the case.

How much film study or field time can one man really spend practicing his GUNNER MOVES as opposed to practicing coverage skills.


I'm not talking about his moves as a gunner, but more so the mind set you have to have to play that position. The gunners job is to GO. FAST.

I imagine that mindset may start to creep in on you while playing corner if your main job on game day for a year and a half is to be super aggressive as a gunner.

SidSmythe
12-11-2012, 12:00 PM
I'm not talking about his moves as a gunner, but more so the mind set you have to have to play that position. The gunners job is to GO. FAST.

I imagine that mindset may start to creep in on you while playing corner if your main job on game day for a year and a half is to be super aggressive as a gunner.

Gunner Moves! lol :D


Maybe he's our next Chidi Iowamu