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LordVile
11-29-2012, 04:16 AM
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=8688668&wjb

Oakland Raiders linebacker Rolando McClain has been informed by the team that he will be released on Thursday, according to a source.

McClain, the eighth overall pick in the 2010 draft, was held out of practice Wednesday because of an undisclosed team-related issue.

Coach Dennis Allen would give no more information about why he held McClain out. Allen said he did not know if McClain would practice Thursday.

McClain reportedly wrote on his Facebook page he no longer was a Raider, then deleted the post.

McClain has struggled under Oakland's new coaching staff, and has had his playing time sharply reduced in recent weeks. McClain's best year with the Raiders came in 2011, when he registered 99 tackles and five sacks. Information from senior NFL writer John Clayton and The Associated Press was used in this report.

Oviedo
11-29-2012, 08:29 AM
I'd grab him but I doubt we have the cap space to make that happen. If he is waived he will likely get grabbed by a team with a worse record before we would even have a chance to put in a waiver claim.

BradshawsHairdresser
11-29-2012, 09:38 AM
I suppose it's too late in the season to do a trade?

Slapstick
11-29-2012, 10:07 AM
He wasn't placed on the waiver wire...

This season, it would be easy for any team to add him to the roster off of waivers with a salary of $970K (probably around $300K for the remainder of the season)...next season, his salary jumps to $4 million...there are apparently problems with conditioning and attitude with McClain...but, then again, that's what they said about Bettis in St. Louis back in the day...

JDSteeler
11-29-2012, 10:38 AM
Ah hell NO!!!

The dude is garbage, and a criminal...shooting a gun next to someone's head??

JD

steelz09
11-29-2012, 02:20 PM
He wasn't placed on the waiver wire...

This season, it would be easy for any team to add him to the roster off of waivers with a salary of $970K (probably around $300K for the remainder of the season)...next season, his salary jumps to $4 million...there are apparently problems with conditioning and attitude with McClain...but, then again, that's what they said about Bettis in St. Louis back in the day...


Yeah... why not. I mean, if I was on the Raider's, I'd start acting crazy too just to get outta Oakland. lol

Basically, we could save a draft pick and gain solid depth with Rolando and Spence alongside of Timmons.

RuthlessBurgher
11-29-2012, 02:34 PM
McClain is in his 3rd NFL season, but is still only 23 years old. We were interested in Dont'a Hightower in the draft, so getting his ILB teammate at Alabama in 2008-2009 could be an interesting switcheroo. He could be solid vs. the run, but appears to be a liability in coverage (certainly not a 3-down backer type). His skill set is pretty much the polar opposite of Sean Spence. He is only making a base salary of $970,000 this season, so that is not an immediate issue, but then his salary jumps to $4.005 million next season and $5.805 million in 2014, which does not fit into our cap situation at all. Therefore, we won't even think about claiming him off waivers (where you would inherit the remainder of his current contract). The only way we would ever end up with him would be if he passed through waivers unclaimed and then was willing to sign a minimal deal as a free agent. Quite unlikely.

hawaiiansteel
11-29-2012, 03:31 PM
Cutting McClain part of Raiders' process

November, 28, 2012
By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com (http://ESPN.com/)

Rolando McClain was supposed to be different.

He was supposed to break the chain of poor first-round drafting by the Oakland Raiders. Oakland took McClain with the No. 8 overall pick in the 2010 draft. It was well received because McClain was expected to be a sure thing. He was a star on a defense of stars for Nick Sabanís Alabama Crimson Tide.

Many teams wanted him. McClain earned immediate kudos for asking for his playbook as soon as he was drafted. He was going to be the anti-JaMarcus Russell.

It went downhill from there.

McClain was not a good NFL player and it seems like his time is up in Oakland before his third NFL season is over. ESPNís John Clayton is reporting McClain will be cut Thursday.

The situation became murky Wednesday when McClain missed practice and the team said it was because of a team-related issue. McClain then took to social media, saying he was no longer a Raider.

McClain never lived up to his billing on the field. He was out of shape, slow and often out of position. He didnít show the instincts expected from a top-10 pick. He was convicted on a gun charge last year, but it was recently overturned on an appeal, according to his attorney.

The new Oakland regime was charged with salvaging McClainís time in Oakland. He didnít make improvements and his playing time dwindled in some games. Now, it is over.

McClain will be the 27th player to leave since new general manager Reggie McKenzie took over. Last week, fellow starting linebacker Aaron Curry was cut.

Changes like this show that the Raiders are rebuilding and patience is needed with the new regime. McKenzie is trying to reconstruct a team with a bad salary cap situation and small draft classes. Getting rid of players who didnít work out like McClain is also part of the process. Perhaps more cuts are on the way.

McClain may be able to salvage his career elsewhere in the right situation. Iím sure some teams will be interested in him. Oakland will hope he is claimed so the rest of his contract is taken on. But that may not be easy. I could see McClain passing through waivers.

Like every NFL team, I think the three other AFC West teams could look at McClain because he can fit in both 3-4 and 4-3 defenses. But each team will have to decide if trying to salvage McClain is worth its time.

As for Oakland, newly signed veteran Omar Gaither will likely play at middle linebacker for the time being.

Oakland will look for a middle linebacker in the offseason. One target may be Notre Dameís Manti Teío if he is available when Oakland picks in the NFL draft. He is expected to be a top-five pick. Oakland is currently on pace to pick fourth. Teío is considered a canít miss prospect.

Sound familiar?

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...ansing-process (http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/51820/cutting-mcclain-part-of-raiders-cleansing-process)
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ikestops85
11-29-2012, 04:21 PM
McClain was the first 1st rounder that I thought Oakland 'hit' on in years. Normally they were looking for some speedster that every other team had as a potential 3rd rounder but they had as 1st round material. I remember McClain was looking good his rookie year. I wonder what happened?

Oviedo
11-29-2012, 04:40 PM
McClain was the first 1st rounder that I thought Oakland 'hit' on in years. Normally they were looking for some speedster that every other team had as a potential 3rd rounder but they had as 1st round material. I remember McClain was looking good his rookie year. I wonder what happened?

Maybe he spent the off season with Mike Wallace:stirpot

RuthlessBurgher
11-29-2012, 04:40 PM
The league changed. Two-down thumpers aren't nearly as valuable as three-down coverage backers in Goodell's pass-happy NFL. It's odd that Oakland also had Aaron Curry, who was a top 10 ILB bust for Seattle as well, and now they are both young and available.

phillyesq
11-29-2012, 06:08 PM
I wouldn't mind taking a shot on McClain if he clears waivers and signs a minimum deal. With his salary going forward, I could see him clearing waivers.

For this year, I wouldn't see him as anything more than a special teams option, but going forward, I could see McClain/Spence splitting time next time Timmons. If you can take a look for essentially no cost, I have no objection.

fordfixer
11-29-2012, 09:40 PM
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=8688668&wjb

Oakland Raiders linebacker Rolando McClain has been informed by the team that he will be released on Thursday, according to a source.

McClain, the eighth overall pick in the 2010 draft, was held out of practice Wednesday because of an undisclosed team-related issue.

Coach Dennis Allen would give no more information about why he held McClain out. Allen said he did not know if McClain would practice Thursday.

McClain reportedly wrote on his Facebook page he no longer was a Raider, then deleted the post.

McClain has struggled under Oakland's new coaching staff, and has had his playing time sharply reduced in recent weeks. McClain's best year with the Raiders came in 2011, when he registered 99 tackles and five sacks. Information from senior NFL writer John Clayton and The Associated Press was used in this report.


Can he play QB?

LordVile
11-30-2012, 12:20 AM
yeah, he came from 3-4 and oakland converted him to 4-3.... would be better in a natural 3-4 scheme, I presume.. good against the run, hard hitter.. if we can get him cheap.. like mentioned.. i'd be down for it.. him acting like a FOOL was to get cut off that team.. guess he got tired of playing for a loser..

Sugar
11-30-2012, 10:28 AM
It's funny because when they came out of school many would have thought that a LB corps that had both McClain and Curry would be one of the best in the league. There really are no "sure things" coming out of the draft.

Oviedo
11-30-2012, 11:17 AM
It's funny because when they came out of school many would have thought that a LB corps that had both McClain and Curry would be one of the best in the league. There really are no "sure things" coming out of the draft.


They went to Oakland, that is what happened. Is there really a worse place in the league to go with constant coaching changes and a general bad culture. It will take years for them to undo the damage Al Davis did the past 10 years and reinstill a culture that values performance over appearance.

feltdizz
11-30-2012, 11:43 AM
I think the lack of good QB play in the SEC is the reason a lot of LB's don't live up to the hype in the NFL. Is this the guy everyone said was a liability in coverage? I don't want that...

BradshawsHairdresser
11-30-2012, 12:38 PM
I think the lack of good QB play in the SEC is the reason a lot of LB's don't live up to the hype in the NFL. Is this the guy everyone said was a liability in coverage? I don't want that...

Would he be any worse than Foote in coverage? Talent-wise, I think he could be an upgrade in the middle.

On the other hand, if he truly has an attitude problem, we sure don't need that.

RuthlessBurgher
11-30-2012, 01:14 PM
They went to Oakland, that is what happened. Is there really a worse place in the league to go with constant coaching changes and a general bad culture. It will take years for them to undo the damage Al Davis did the past 10 years and reinstill a culture that values performance over appearance.

Aaron Curry was already a bust in Seattle before Oakland claimed him off waivers.

RuthlessBurgher
11-30-2012, 01:37 PM
Looks like the Raiders have suspended McClain for 2 games, and aren't releasing him after all (at least not right now).


Raiders suspend Rolando McClain for conduct detrimental to team
Posted by Michael David Smith on November 30, 2012, 11:03 AM EST

The murky situation surrounding Raiders linebacker Rolando McClain, who said this week that he was done with the team, is starting to come into focus.

Jay Glazer of FOX Sports reports that the Raiders have suspended McClain for conduct detrimental to the team. However, Glazer reports that the Raiders are not releasing McClain, who wrote on Facebook after missing practice Wednesday that he was officially done with the team.

There’s no word on how long McClain is suspended for, although other Raiders players told Glazer it’s for more than just this week. At this point it seems unlikely that McClain will play for the Raiders again this year: The team is going nowhere, McClain is not playing well and he clearly isn’t seeing eye to eye with the coaching staff, so it wouldn’t make a lot of sense to bring him back.

The question, then, becomes what happens to McClain going forward. He’s only 23 years old, and he’s talented enough that the Raiders selected him with the eighth overall pick in the 2010 NFL draft and immediately inserted him into their starting lineup, so it’s likely that other teams would be interested in his services in 2013. But he’s been both a disappointment on the field and a troublemaker off the field, so it’s also likely that he has played his last game as a Raider.

UPDATE 11:41 a.m. ET: Raiders coach Dennis Allen says it’s a two-game suspension for McClain.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/30/raiders-suspend-rolando-mcclain-for-conduct-detrimental-to-team/

feltdizz
11-30-2012, 02:29 PM
Would he be any worse than Foote in coverage? Talent-wise, I think he could be an upgrade in the middle.

On the other hand, if he truly has an attitude problem, we sure don't need that.

If he isn't better why would you want him? I have no idea if he is but I'm pretty sure the board had a few arguments over his coverage skills and most pundits said he had stiff hips and would be a liability in coverage

BradshawsHairdresser
11-30-2012, 04:22 PM
If he isn't better why would you want him? I have no idea if he is but I'm pretty sure the board had a few arguments over his coverage skills and most pundits said he had stiff hips and would be a liability in coverage
If he's no worse than Foote in coverage, he would likely be an upgrade because he's better vs. the run than Foote is. Plus, he's only 23, so his best years may well be ahead of him; at this point, Foote's best years are behind him.

That said, he probably isn't going to be available to the Steelers...and if he's a problem-child, we don't need that anyway.

lloydroid
12-01-2012, 04:43 PM
Yeah... why not. I mean, if I was on the Raider's, I'd start acting crazy too just to get outta Oakland. lol

Basically, we could save a draft pick and gain solid depth with Rolando and Spence alongside of Timmons.

It depends. If he has a bad tude, no way. Dudes with character flaws ruin the whole batch of apples.