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BigRob
11-28-2012, 07:41 PM
I simply ask this: Will it make any difference?

Sugar
11-28-2012, 07:42 PM
Not if Ben isn't in. We might be able to win a few against the Cleveland or Dallas' of the world without him, but not Baltimore.

phillyesq
11-28-2012, 07:49 PM
Polamalu especially could make a difference. He is one of the players most likely to be able to create a turnover and potentially a score for the defense, which might be needed to win this game.

pittpete
11-28-2012, 08:13 PM
What are the odds Troy doesnt make the half?

Shoe
11-28-2012, 08:14 PM
Polamalu especially could make a difference. He is one of the players most likely to be able to create a turnover and potentially a score for the defense, which might be needed to win this game.

The World's Longest Calf Injury is going to end this week?

SidSmythe
11-28-2012, 08:17 PM
if TROY makes it thru this game and practices next Wednesday I will be excited. Until then my right eye will be paying attention to the game while my left eye pays attention to when Troy is NOT in the game.

BradshawsHairdresser
11-28-2012, 10:16 PM
The World's Longest Calf Injury is going to end this week?
Saw today on another site that the injury was actually a TEAR of the calf muscle, not just a STRAIN as had earlier been reported. Don't know if anyone else on this board has ever suffered a muscle tear, but they can take a frustratingly long time to heal. Here's hoping that Troy is, indeed, fully healed.

Slapstick
11-29-2012, 06:57 AM
Saw today on another site that the injury was actually a TEAR of the calf muscle, not just a STRAIN as had earlier been reported. Don't know if anyone else on this board has ever suffered a muscle tear, but they can take a frustratingly long time to heal. Here's hoping that Troy is, indeed, fully healed.

Technically, a tear is a type of muscle strain...

Bluto
11-29-2012, 07:45 AM
Brown can make a diffrence. He is very quick and tough to guard in space. He is the one who is excelling in Haleys shorter passing game. He may even make Wallace that much more valuable. But unfortunatley Charlie can"t throw it 40 yards down field anymore. But Brown can help move the chains and keep some drives going. If there was a blessing in disguise. Think Browns time out gave Sanders more time to show FO Wallace is not worth the money he wants. We would be fine next year with Brown Sanders Cothery and a FA or another young guy. Actually think Buress could compliment those 3 for another year.

Oviedo
11-29-2012, 08:25 AM
Not if Ben isn't in. We might be able to win a few against the Cleveland or Dallas' of the world without him, but not Baltimore.

Agree. We are not beating the Ravens without Ben at QB. I'm afraid that we are actually going to get blown out this Sunday.

We will be 6-6 after this weekend and IMO will have to run the table to make the play offs.

Oviedo
11-29-2012, 08:26 AM
What are the odds Troy doesnt make the half?

He won't make it through the whole game. I suspect they will rotate him in and out with Will Allen.

flippy
11-29-2012, 08:49 AM
Can either play QB?

BradshawsHairdresser
11-29-2012, 10:08 AM
Technically, a tear is a type of muscle strain...
Well, whatever you want to call it, it can take months to heal. I tore a bicep once and I think it was 3 or 4 months before it was healed. Maybe the Steelers' trainers have magic elixir that speeds the process...then again, maybe not.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
11-29-2012, 10:45 AM
Brown can be a big difference maker. The offense was hitting it's stride before he got hurt. He allows Batch the threat of the prototype west coast receiver that this O needs. He can create space with or without the threat of the deep ball. Most importantly, our top three are Brown, Wallace, and Sanders, not Wallace, Sanders, and either Burress or Gilreath.

papillon
11-29-2012, 10:51 AM
Agree. We are not beating the Ravens without Ben at QB. I'm afraid that we are actually going to get blown out this Sunday.

We will be 6-6 after this weekend and IMO will have to run the table to make the play offs.

Ben is the key to the Steelers, but they have been successful with him on the bench before and using Dixon and Batch. Batch is going to be fine this weekend; he had to shake off some rust. The defense completely dominated the Ravens offense and I expect more of the same. If the offense doesn't give the Ravens a short field Flacco and company will only score between 13 and 17 points.

There isn't going to be a blowout and the Steelers will have a chance to win this game, IMO. Have some faith, they have played without Ben before and with a subpar offensive line.

Pappy

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
11-29-2012, 11:26 AM
There isn't going to be a blowout and the Steelers will have a chance to win this game, IMO. Have some faith, they have played without Ben before and with a subpar offensive line.

Pappy

Agree here Pappy. Ravens are favored by 8. I would go Steelers if betting.

Eich
11-29-2012, 12:42 PM
Agree here Pappy. Ravens are favored by 8. I would go Steelers if betting.

Sounds like another ugly game. What a shame. The Ravens have been ripe for the take-down in the division. Their defense is sub-par and their offense has trouble with our D. But without Ben, it's going to be a real struggle to score many points. Here's hoping that Haley has a few tricks up his sleeve.

papillon
11-29-2012, 12:57 PM
Agree here Pappy. Ravens are favored by 8. I would go Steelers if betting.

Yea, I'd take the Steelers +8, what's different between this week and two weeks ago? Batch instead of Lefty, that's it fir the most part. The score was 13-10; I don't know what the Vegas line was on that game. I know it moved quite a bit once Vegas realized Ben wasn't playing.

I just don't see a blowout.

Pappy

BigRob
11-29-2012, 01:41 PM
Sounds like another ugly game. What a shame. The Ravens have been ripe for the take-down in the division. Their defense is sub-par and their offense has trouble with our D. But without Ben, it's going to be a real struggle to score many points. Here's hoping that Haley has a few tricks up his sleeve.

Your ignoring Baltimore's road vs. home performance this year. That offense has been dominant at home. They will score more points than they did two weeks ago.

With Brown and Ben we would probably win this game. We will probably not win this game with Batch and Brown.

Oviedo
11-29-2012, 02:01 PM
Your ignoring Baltimore's road vs. home performance this year. That offense has been dominant at home. They will score more points than they did two weeks ago.

With Brown and Ben we would probably win this game. We will probably not win this game with Batch and Brown.

I agree. Just don't become too disappointed if this becomes a rout. Injuries have just been too much and now we are playing with juggling the already average OL. IMO this could be like opening day last year. Sorry for the gloom and doom but we have to face reality that we aren't that good right now because of the injuries.

feltdizz
11-29-2012, 02:02 PM
All those TO's last week are worth a few points I guess... I wouldn't bet on the Ravens.

hawaiiansteel
11-29-2012, 07:23 PM
It's Brown to the rescue for Steelers

Posted: Wednesday, November 28, 2012
By Mike Bires

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/timesonline.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/70/270600d2-b8ef-51ab-a02e-e948de5c4217/50b6bcd753a0f.preview-300.jpg

With Mike Wallace in Mike Tomlin's doghouse, Antonio Brown is the Steelers' go-to guy at receiver.

PITTSBURGH – It’s unlikely the Steelers will have their franchise quarterback Sunday in Baltimore. They will have their reigning Most Valuable Player though.

With Ben Roethlisberger still rehabbing his shoulder and rib injuries, Charlie Batch expects to make his second straight start. Considering how poorly Batch played last week in Cleveland, that must be a sobering thought for the slumping Steelers (6-5).

On the bright side, however, wide receiver Antonio Brown will start after missing three games with a high ankle sprain.

The Steelers’ 2011 team MVP hopes to inject life into a stagnant offense that scored just one touchdowns in each of the past three games. In back-to-back losses to the Ravens and Browns, in which Roethlisberger and Brown both sat out, the Steelers failed to score a touchdown pass.

“I don’t know, that’s not my place to say,” Brown said when asked how much the Steelers missed his play-making abilities. “My place is to be there when my teammates need me, and I’m looking forward to giving us a spark.”

Brown’s return comes at a time when the Steelers have problems galore on offense.

* Their star QB is hurt.

* There’s chaos at running back where first-stringer Rashard Mendenhall has been demoted for his sloppy performance Sunday in Cleveland where the Steelers committed eight turnovers.

* Injuries are mounting on the offensive line.

* At wide receiver, it appears that underachieving Mike Wallace has lost his starting job to Emmanuel Sanders.

“No question. It’s always hard when you’re watching your teammates in battle, and you’re not out there helping them,” Brown said. “Since I’ve been here, I’ve never experienced back-to-back losses before. And to lose two in a row to division opponents, it’s disgusting. That’s something we don’t stand for around here.

“So we plan on getting things back to normal. I’m thankful I’ll be out there this week.”

Even though he hasn’t played since the first half of the Nov. 4 win over the Giants, Brown is still third on the team with 42 catches and 499 receiving yards. He trails tight end Heath Miller (51/516) and Wallace (47/572).

Even though the Ravens (9-2) expect to see Batch at QB again, coach John Harbaugh believes that Brown can be the X factor when these two AFC North rivals meet Sunday.

“He’s a playmaker,” Harbaugh said. “He’s a guy that can score from any part of the field, offensively or special teams-wise. He’s got tremendous quickness, speed, body control and hands.

“He’s a guy that we’ve really thought the world of, ever since he was coming out (of college), and we were going through the process of getting to know him coming out of Central Michigan. He’s just a stellar-type of guy and we’ll definitely have to have an eye on him.”

In the 2010 draft, the Steelers picked Brown in the sixth round. Also part of that draft class was Sanders, a third-round pick.

So far in their careers, Brown has been more productive. He has 127 career catches for 1,774 yards and three TDs. He also earned Pro Bowl honors last year as a kick return specialist. Sanders has 84 career catches for 1,153 yards and five TDs.

But on Sunday, it looks like Brown and Sanders will both be in the starting lineup for the first time. And they could remain starters for years to come.

“Emmanuel is doing really well,” Brown said. “He’s seizing his opportunity. When you’re presented with opportunities, you need to take advantage of them.”

That’s what Brown hopes to do again Sunday in Baltimore.

http://www.timesonline.com/sports/steelers/it-s-brown-to-the-rescue-for-steelers/article_ca413e41-3cc8-5cef-b996-90056aed5125.html

NorthCoast
11-29-2012, 08:24 PM
Brown can be a big difference maker. The offense was hitting it's stride before he got hurt. He allows Batch the threat of the prototype west coast receiver that this O needs. He can create space with or without the threat of the deep ball. Most importantly, our top three are Brown, Wallace, and Sanders, not Wallace, Sanders, and either Burress or Gilreath.

Agreed. Still amazed that some discount Brown's effect on this offense. He is the one WR that can beat double teams. Add in Plax and the passing O could be a tad better. Plus the Browns secondary is actually better than the Ravens, so that should help as well.

flippy
11-29-2012, 08:30 PM
I'm hoping Brown can give us a PR that could be the difference in the game.

RuthlessBurgher
11-29-2012, 08:42 PM
I'm hoping Brown can give us a PR that could be the difference in the game.

A punt return was the difference in the last game against the Ravens.

Tomlinator
11-29-2012, 09:13 PM
RuthlessBurgher

http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by flippyhttp://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=535489#post535489)
I'm hoping Brown can give us a PR that could be the difference in the game.




A punt return was the difference in the last game against the Ravens.


By Jacoby Freakin' Jones, who was run out of Houston for his fumblitis and boneheaded decisions on punts.

Here's hoping he returns to form and coughs it up a couple of times.

RuthlessBurgher
11-30-2012, 01:42 PM
Steelers expect Polamalu to have “significant role” this week
Posted by Darin Gantt on November 30, 2012, 11:20 AM EST

As important as getting Ben Roethlisberger back at some point will be, the Steelers have also missed safety Troy Polamalu considerably.

And while they’re not sure he’s going to be full strength, there are signs they’ll get Polamalu back in some fashion this week.

He practiced fully on Wednesday and Thursday, the first time he’s done so since aggravating a calf injury on Oct. 7.

“I don’t think he will be able to be out there every snap, but he is going to be able to take a significant role,” Steelers defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau said, via Alan Robinson of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. “He has been idle for a good while. … He is in good shape. His aerobic conditioning is good, but I think his football conditioning needs some development.”

Anything they can get out of him will be good, as his leadership on defense has been missed as much as Roethlisberger’s on offense.

Polamalu said he was “very excited” to be back in practice this week, and hasn’t enjoyed having to watch.

“There’s a reason why the Steelers don’t have cheerleaders,” Polamalu said. “I’m not on the sidelines cheering. I’m a football player.”

At least he’s closer to being one this week, if not a full-time one.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/30/steelers-expect-polamalu-to-have-significant-role-this-week/

flippy
11-30-2012, 01:48 PM
I wonder if Tomlin is dressing Troy as an emotional lift/mindgame for the team?

BradshawsHairdresser
11-30-2012, 02:08 PM
I wonder if Tomlin is dressing Troy as an emotional lift/mindgame for the team?
Hopefully Troy dresses himself...

RuthlessBurgher
11-30-2012, 04:23 PM
I wonder if Tomlin is dressing Troy as an emotional lift/mindgame for the team?

Or maybe it's a mindgame aimed at Joe Flacco, since Troy did get him for a pick 6 to clinch the AFC Championship Game that sent the Ravens home and sent the Steelers (plus RuthlessBurgher and RuthlessBrother) to Tampa to face the Cardinals in SBXLIII.