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SanAntonioSteelerFan
11-19-2012, 12:39 AM
The fumble, the apparent not reaching out to grab that short pass that would have gotten us a 1st near the end ...

Maybe Adams gets the "negative" game ball.

Or STs.

NorthCoast
11-19-2012, 12:43 AM
I will give him props for last week's TD catch... simply amazing.... but then follows it up with a game like tonight....

steelz09
11-19-2012, 12:44 AM
Add Mendenhall to this list.

I place most the blame on Leftwich. If that is all he can do.... then we may not make the playoffs because I don't even see us beating the Browns. If Ben doesn't get healthy, we might lose out.

Jigawatts
11-19-2012, 12:45 AM
Wallace. The fumble and the lack of effort.:nono

Steel Life
11-19-2012, 12:48 AM
Wallace needs to play to the level he thinks he deserves...the team needed a better effort, you need to sell out in games like this.

That said the 3 turnovers cost the team the game...

squidkid
11-19-2012, 12:57 AM
I will give him props for last week's TD catch... simply amazing.... but then follows it up with a game like tonight....


that catch was nothing but luck. i'm not going to give him credit for catching a ball with his knees when he easily should have caught it with his hands

Steelreal
11-19-2012, 01:50 AM
Add Mendenhall to this list.

I place most the blame on Leftwich. If that is all he can do.... then we may not make the playoffs because I don't even see us beating the Browns. If Ben doesn't get healthy, we might lose out.

When Ben plays poorly and we lose do you make excuses for him or do you say that "Ben cost us the game". Like you just did with Leftwich. Just curios

Steelreal
11-19-2012, 01:52 AM
We have lost 3 games with Ben Roethlisberger at Qb this season and ALL of those teams were worse than the Ravens. Was it Ben's fault that we lost those 3 games? I dont think so. I just think we should support Lefty like we support Ben when he plays poorly.

Oviedo
11-19-2012, 08:57 AM
Wallace needs to play to the level he thinks he deserves...the team needed a better effort, you need to sell out in games like this.

That said the 3 turnovers cost the team the game...

It looks to me like Wallace needs Brown more than Brown needs Wallace. Brown does all the hard work Wallace apparently can't handle.

steelz09
11-19-2012, 09:26 AM
When Ben plays poorly and we lose do you make excuses for him or do you say that "Ben cost us the game". Like you just did with Leftwich. Just curios

Yea.. I do actually. Historically, I've been very critical of Ben's play. I don't make excuses for anybody's poor play (or coaching).

Eich
11-19-2012, 09:31 AM
We have lost 3 games with Ben Roethlisberger at Qb this season and ALL of those teams were worse than the Ravens. Was it Ben's fault that we lost those 3 games? I dont think so. I just think we should support Lefty like we support Ben when he plays poorly.

At the same time, we didn't hold those teams to 13 points nor did we shut down their offenses and hold them to 6 points. That's what our D did last night. The Ravens' offense scored 2 field goals the entire night ! Our defense has been clicking of late and now it's our offense that can't put up more than 10 points.

I don't put all the blame on Leftwich. The receivers didn't help much, nor did the coaching. This was a very needed win and a very winnable game. We flushed down a perfect opportunity to make noise in the division.

eniparadoxgma
11-19-2012, 09:42 PM
We have lost 3 games with Ben Roethlisberger at Qb this season and ALL of those teams were worse than the Ravens. Was it Ben's fault that we lost those 3 games? I dont think so. I just think we should support Lefty like we support Ben when he plays poorly.

Welcome back 43/stopplayn/whateverothernamesyou'veused. You were totally missed...and stuff.

Mister Pittsburgh
11-20-2012, 05:35 AM
I want a WR that can high point a ball over a DB and has good hands. Wallace can only catch with his body. He is truly a one trick pony...the fast Willie Parker of WR's.

Oviedo
11-20-2012, 08:41 AM
I want a WR that can high point a ball over a DB and has good hands. Wallace can only catch with his body. He is truly a one trick pony...the fast Willie Parker of WR's.

...and not worth $10M+. Pay him the same at Brown, but like I have said many times Wallace doesn't really want to stay and compete against Brown.

Mister Pittsburgh
11-20-2012, 10:01 AM
I honestly don't even want him. One knee injury and he is as worthless as a 'quick' willie parker trying to get the edge.

papillon
11-20-2012, 10:28 AM
Regardless of what happens during the off season with Mike Wallace he is currently on the Steeler roster and their best chance to get big plays out of the offense. He scores touchdowns, Sanders, Cotchery and Brown do not. The Steelers will use him this year and worry about the other stuff when its time. Wallace was instrumental in wins versus Giants and Chiefs and had a chance to make a great catch and just didn't get the second foot in. Anyone thinking that was an easy catch and toe tap just hates Wallace; that would have been another great play had the foot been able to be dragged. Even Collinsworth said that Leftwich just didn't leave enough room to make the catch, Wallace ran out field because of the throw.

Pappy

Mister Pittsburgh
11-20-2012, 10:52 AM
Just to be clear, I don't hate Mike Wallace...I just don't think he is a 10 million a year WR and is indeed a one trick pony. Right now for him that one trick is working but when the speed is effected by leg injuries he will be average. He doesn't catch with his hands.

Oviedo
11-20-2012, 11:58 AM
Regardless of what happens during the off season with Mike Wallace he is currently on the Steeler roster and their best chance to get big plays out of the offense. He scores touchdowns, Sanders, Cotchery and Brown do not. The Steelers will use him this year and worry about the other stuff when its time. Wallace was instrumental in wins versus Giants and Chiefs and had a chance to make a great catch and just didn't get the second foot in. Anyone thinking that was an easy catch and toe tap just hates Wallace; that would have been another great play had the foot been able to be dragged. Even Collinsworth said that Leftwich just didn't leave enough room to make the catch, Wallace ran out field because of the throw.

Pappy

Wallace scores touchdowns because he is assigned the "go" routes that typically result in the TDs while Brown and Sanders have to work the underneath routes and get the extra yards to keep the chains moving while making tough catches in traffic.

phillyesq
11-20-2012, 01:10 PM
Regardless of what happens during the off season with Mike Wallace he is currently on the Steeler roster and their best chance to get big plays out of the offense. He scores touchdowns, Sanders, Cotchery and Brown do not. The Steelers will use him this year and worry about the other stuff when its time. Wallace was instrumental in wins versus Giants and Chiefs and had a chance to make a great catch and just didn't get the second foot in. Anyone thinking that was an easy catch and toe tap just hates Wallace; that would have been another great play had the foot been able to be dragged. Even Collinsworth said that Leftwich just didn't leave enough room to make the catch, Wallace ran out field because of the throw.

Pappy

Well said, Pappy.

I was not thrilled with the fumble or with Wallace's effort on the ball that short-hopped him, but we didn't see a lot of these complaints when he outraced the field and scored in the Giants game.

D Rock
11-20-2012, 01:25 PM
Wallace scores touchdowns because he is assigned the "go" routes that typically result in the TDs while Brown and Sanders have to work the underneath routes and get the extra yards to keep the chains moving while making tough catches in traffic.


yards gained on Mike Wallace TD catches this year:

3
37
22 (Broken play, running across the back of the endzone)
82
51 (against NYG, quick slant route, hit the after burners for the TD. 3 yard catch, 48 yard run)
7



simply put...You're wrong.

grotonsteel
11-20-2012, 01:50 PM
Regardless of what happens during the off season with Mike Wallace he is currently on the Steeler roster and their best chance to get big plays out of the offense. He scores touchdowns, Sanders, Cotchery and Brown do not. The Steelers will use him this year and worry about the other stuff when its time. Wallace was instrumental in wins versus Giants and Chiefs and had a chance to make a great catch and just didn't get the second foot in. Anyone thinking that was an easy catch and toe tap just hates Wallace; that would have been another great play had the foot been able to be dragged. Even Collinsworth said that Leftwich just didn't leave enough room to make the catch, Wallace ran out field because of the throw.

Pappy

Very Well Said...

Wallace might not be another Megatron or A J Greene or Andre Johnson or Fitz but he is Steelers best option at WR spot. Wallace-AB-Sanders make Steelers WR group very exciting.