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Dee Dub
11-14-2012, 01:47 PM
The Steelers need to let one of these guys get into a grove. Rotating between two backs is not going to do that. Instead of trying to make every one happy the focus should be on winning football games. And I don't think rotating backs and not letting one guy get into a rhythm is working towards that. Now that Ben is out the focus needs to be more on the running game and working towards it be successful.

I vote for Jonathan Dwyer. :tt2

hawaiiansteel
11-14-2012, 01:53 PM
I vote for Jonathan Dwyer. :tt2

here's a pic of Dwyer...

http://gomotors.net/pics/Chevrolet/chevrolet-mini-bus-04.jpg

Eich
11-14-2012, 01:53 PM
I haven't seen a rotate-to-keep'em-all-happy" plan at all. I've seen a next-man-up-from-injury plan. Week to week, they've all taken their turn dropping out with injuries. If ANY one of them stayed healthy AND produced, that person would see most of the action.

Dee Dub
11-14-2012, 01:57 PM
I haven't seen a rotate-to-keep'em-all-happy" plan at all. I've seen a next-man-up-from-injury plan. Week to week, they've all taken their turn dropping out with injuries. If ANY one of them stayed healthy AND produced, that person would see most of the action.

Eich did you see the last game the Steelers played? They had two healthy backs and chose to split carries. That method didn't really work. And this is coming off the heals of their running attack having worked very well when it was a one back carry the load approach.

Dee Dub
11-14-2012, 02:00 PM
..and before anyone says it, I know Dwyer had twice as many carries as Redman but most of those were in the second half. Redman started out getting the bulk of the carries.

Oviedo
11-14-2012, 02:59 PM
The Steelers need to let one of these guys get into a grove. Rotating between two backs is not going to do that. Instead of trying to make every one happy the focus should be on winning football games. And I don't think rotating backs and not letting one guy get into a rhythm is working towards that. Now that Ben is out the focus needs to be more on the running game and working towards it be successful.

I vote for Jonathan Dwyer. :tt2

I agree. Redman should stay on the sideline unless Dwyer needs a breather. RBs need to develop a rhythm and can't do that going in and out.

Slapstick
11-14-2012, 03:02 PM
Six of one, a half-dozen of the other...

Eich
11-14-2012, 03:03 PM
I agree. Redman should stay on the sideline unless Dwyer needs a breather. RBs need to develop a rhythm and can't do that going in and out.

That's just it. The backs we've been left with need lots of breathers. They've been injured and aren't 100%.

If any one of these guys gets consistency in their play and their health, you're going to see more consistency in their reps.

flippy
11-14-2012, 03:15 PM
A 20/10 split in carries between 2 backs seems reasonable. I think the issue you may have is you'd like JD to get the bulk of the carries and start getting them early to get him into the flow of the game. And have Redman give him a series or 2 breathers throughout the game.

I thought the way the Steelers split up the carries was ok. And I don't mind bringing in JD as a closer. But neither back seemed to be able to run against what looked like a good KC D.

hawaiiansteel
11-14-2012, 03:18 PM
I agree. Redman should stay on the sideline unless Dwyer needs a breather.

with Dwyer that would be after any run of over 5 yards or after two consecutive carries.

BradshawsHairdresser
11-14-2012, 04:25 PM
With Ben out, the defenses we face will load up to stop the run...I'm not real optimistic about our success running the ball under that scenario, whether we have one back getting the bulk of the carries or do the committee thing...the heart and soul of this offense, the one that makes it go, is not Dwyer or Redman or Mendenhall, it's #7.

Oviedo
11-14-2012, 04:50 PM
With Ben out, the defenses we face will load up to stop the run...I'm not real optimistic about our success running the ball under that scenario, whether we have one back getting the bulk of the carries or do the committee thing...the heart and soul of this offense, the one that makes it go, is not Dwyer or Redman or Mendenhall, it's #7.

That is why "gloom and doom" is so prevalent right now.

NorthCoast
11-14-2012, 09:55 PM
I would trust that the coaching staff knows a lot more than you about whether one guy deserves "the bulk of the carries" in a game. It seems pretty obvious that none of the RBs has stepped up to make that decision easy. Injuries, inconsistencies, missed reads, frequent spells doesn't instill a lot of confidence in a coach about a player.

Chadman
11-14-2012, 11:18 PM
Dwyer looks the more 'complete' RB. Redman looks best as the relief hitter. Chadman would probably give Redman a third of the carries Dwyer gets, or less, depending on the flow of the game.

Chadman think's it's more important to get Batch & Rainey involved though- change of pace RB's instead of change of cleats RB's- Dwyer & Redman are just a rotation of the same RB.

Dee Dub
11-15-2012, 12:50 AM
I would trust that the coaching staff knows a lot more than you about whether one guy deserves "the bulk of the carries" in a game. It seems pretty obvious that none of the RBs has stepped up to make that decision easy. Injuries, inconsistencies, missed reads, frequent spells doesn't instill a lot of confidence in a coach about a player.

Yeah because coaches never make mistakes................:lol:

Shoe
11-15-2012, 12:57 AM
This is THE point I've been making with these two ignoramuses. I suppose the OP is talking about the KC game, where both seemed to platoon carries. Both have had golden opportunities to take the job for their own... and both have pushed away from it. It's like they're scared of success...

Dwyer had two impressive 100-yard efforts in a row. He could've went for a 3rd in the Giants game, if he simply 'naded up and played. But he sat out that game--because he had a charlie horse! What happened? Redman took over, and got the 147 yards that could've certainly been Dwyer's. Three 100-yard games in a row, it would've been!

So what is the coaching staff supposed to do, supposed to think? They CAN'T hang their hat on either of these two bozos.