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Mister Pittsburgh
11-13-2012, 12:39 AM
We got hosed on calls last week but got a lot of favorable calls today. KC has had some rough calls.

Iron Shiek
11-13-2012, 12:51 AM
KC was super undisciplined and brought it all on themselves. But there were definitely some iffy ones, but still viable penalties that don't typically go our way. Can't believe we needed so many fortunate plays and calls to win this thing. We served it up on a platter for the chiefs and they still couldn't pull it off. They should fold.

BradshawsHairdresser
11-13-2012, 12:53 AM
We got hosed on calls last week but got a lot of favorable calls today. KC has had some rough calls.

No doubt.

When the regular officials were out on strike, I heard a lot of talk from the media about how bad the replacement refs were...Can anyone tell me exactly how the regular zebras are any better? Cause I sure don't see it.

kindlecatsb'ng
11-13-2012, 01:12 AM
Their paycheck may be better!

fordfixer
11-13-2012, 01:59 AM
No doubt. When the regular officials were out on strike, I heard a lot of talk from the media about how bad the replacement refs were...Can anyone tell me exactly how the regular zebras are any better? Cause I sure don't see it.

They keep the game moving faster, the calls are just as bad:D

LordVile
11-13-2012, 03:16 AM
i'm confused by 15 yard penalty for the Chiefs TD celebration.. since the play was nullified why did they get the penalty still? thats a head scratcher to me.

is anyone familiar with that rule?

DBR96A
11-13-2012, 04:36 AM
The celebration penalty probably stands because the Chiefs were celebrating nothing after all.

Slapstick
11-13-2012, 06:52 AM
i'm confused by 15 yard penalty for the Chiefs TD celebration.. since the play was nullified why did they get the penalty still? thats a head scratcher to me.

is anyone familiar with that rule?

Whether or not the play was nullified, their conduct was just as unsportsmanlike...

phillyesq
11-13-2012, 10:39 AM
The offensive pass interference call on their TE was a bit ticky tacky, as was the holding penalty on Albert on the TD run. Nevertheless, you have to overcome bad calls, as the Steelers did against the Giants.

SanAntonioSteelerFan
11-13-2012, 10:41 AM
Yeah, but did you hear the ref award the Chiefs a "4th and final time out" on that play with penalties on both sides? If we'd lost, I'd be wondering about that one a lot more.

papillon
11-13-2012, 10:55 AM
Yeah, but did you hear the ref award the Chiefs a "4th and final time out" on that play with penalties on both sides? If we'd lost, I'd be wondering about that one a lot more.

It was explained by Tirico and Gruden as okay, it's the fifth timeout that would have assessed a penalty to the Chiefs. Personally, it should cost the team yardage the moment they don't have a timeout to take, I don't get the do over.

Pappy

flippy
11-13-2012, 10:56 AM
Yeah, but did you hear the ref award the Chiefs a "4th and final time out" on that play with penalties on both sides? If we'd lost, I'd be wondering about that one a lot more.

I was wondering why the announcers were saying there's a 4th timeout, but no 5th? Is that a new rule?

Eich
11-13-2012, 12:48 PM
I was wondering why the announcers were saying there's a 4th timeout, but no 5th? Is that a new rule?

I don't think it's new. You get a 4th only if needed for injury.
http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/timingfinal

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
11-13-2012, 01:18 PM
I don't think it's new. You get a 4th only if needed for injury.
http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/timingfinal

I thought it was new, thought that the rule was ten second run off if an injury occurs without a timeout remaining.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
11-13-2012, 01:38 PM
No doubt.

When the regular officials were out on strike, I heard a lot of talk from the media about how bad the replacement refs were...Can anyone tell me exactly how the regular zebras are any better? Cause I sure don't see it.

I kept saying that the officiating was just as bad with the real officials, but nobody listened to me. We are seeing more of the same awful calls, but as someone else said, they are made quicker.

Djfan
11-13-2012, 01:51 PM
I kept saying that the officiating was just as bad with the real officials, but nobody listened to me. We are seeing more of the same awful calls, but as someone else said, they are made quicker.

I agreed and have been frustrated by it for a long time. The thing about the replacement refs is that they didn't get time to hear about how horrible the Steelers are, so they threw flags evenly for stuff that shouldn't get called.
:stirpot

Mister Pittsburgh
11-13-2012, 02:05 PM
Only reason people complained so hard against the replacement officials is because there was another option, the real officials. Now there is no other option so no other way to go. One thing I don't understand is you have 60 year old officials running around trying to keep up with huge players running super fast. The NFL makes so much money, can't they start an officials school where they can groom younger, more athletic officials that didn't have the talent to play in the NFL but can keep up and be right there in the action?

NorthCoast
11-13-2012, 08:56 PM
I am one of the few that had little problem with the replacement refs. I thought their decisions were just as good as the regs, but maybe did take a little longer to get the decision. The regular refs gain legitimacy by name only, i.e. "regular" vs "substitute", imagine the media roar if the subs screwed up the clock like in the STL/SF game Sunday ... there would probably be rioting at Goodell's doorstep!!

Northern_Blitz
11-13-2012, 10:23 PM
I agreed and have been frustrated by it for a long time. The thing about the replacement refs is that they didn't get time to hear about how horrible the Steelers are, so they threw flags evenly for stuff that shouldn't get called.
:stirpot

I think on a call by call basis the replacements were fine.

However, I think the big legit complaint was that they consistently called significantly more penalties on the visitors than the home team. I suppose the argument is that the bad calls by the regular refs even out (home vs. away), where the bad calls by the replacements were biased against the visitors.

feltdizz
11-13-2012, 10:43 PM
No doubt.

When the regular officials were out on strike, I heard a lot of talk from the media about how bad the replacement refs were...Can anyone tell me exactly how the regular zebras are any better? Cause I sure don't see it.

They are better because the media and analyst cover for them when they screw up.

lloydroid
11-13-2012, 10:56 PM
We got hosed on calls last week but got a lot of favorable calls today. KC has had some rough calls.

We definitely had some ticky tack calls go our way. I was thinking the same thing. If I were a KC fan I'd be ticked off. A few of those call were really BAD.

hawaiiansteel
11-13-2012, 11:13 PM
If I were a KC fan I'd be ticked off.

oh, the KC fans are plenty ticked off but mostly at their GM Scott Pioli...

DBR96A
11-13-2012, 11:52 PM
We definitely had some ticky tack calls go our way. I was thinking the same thing. If I were a KC fan I'd be ticked off. A few of those call were really BAD.

The thing about "ticky-tack" calls is that they're correct by the book, but there have been instances of worse going unflagged. On Dwayne Bowe's nullified TD, Branden Albert did indeed grab the back of Will Allen's jersey, which offensive linemen are taught never to do. It was the correct call, even though other offensive linemen have gotten away with worse before. The offensive pass interference was technically correct as well since the pushoff not only helped Tony Moeaki make his cut, but also made Lawrence Timmons slip and fall. I didn't have a problem with that call regardless of Mike Tirico's opinion. (By the way, people put too much stock in the announcers' opinions. They've been wrong before.)

Shoe
11-14-2012, 12:18 AM
I kept saying that the officiating was just as bad with the real officials, but nobody listened to me. We are seeing more of the same awful calls, but as someone else said, they are made quicker.

To say the calls are as bad as the replacements is just ridiculous. The thing you want from referees, is consistency. With both referees, you are bound to get bad calls because as we all know, refs are blind. The BIG difference is the lack of consistency of the replacement guys. As I've said many times, it's not even really much their fault. They don't work as part of a team (because let's face it: they weren't), and so each guy made calls totally independently.

With these guys, there is a cohesion that goes along with working as a team or crew. It DEFINITELY lends itself to a better reffed game, putting aside the blown calls that happen regardless.

Slapstick
11-14-2012, 07:11 AM
The offensive pass interference was technically correct as well since the pushoff not only helped Tony Moeaki make his cut, but also made Lawrence Timmons slip and fall.

If Timmons had pushed Moeaki in the same manner, it would have been a no-brainer defensive PI call...

Nonetheless, it was still a no-brainer PI call...just against the receiver...