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DBR96A
10-16-2012, 05:42 PM
Completion percentage


68.0% - Aaron Rodgers
67.8% - Peyton Manning*
67.8% - Matt Ryan*
67.7% - Alex Smith
67.4% - Tony Romo
66.5% - Philip Rivers
65.8% - Tom Brady
64.6% - Ben Roethlisberger
63.6% - Eli Manning
63.2% - Matt Schaub
61.7% - Joe Flacco
58.9% - Drew Brees
57.7% - Jay Cutler


Passing yards per game


344.0 - Drew Brees
307.5 - Tom Brady
301.3 - Peyton Manning
297.4 - Ben Roethlisberger
295.3 - Eli Manning
292.7 - Matt Ryan
281.8 - Tony Romo
281.7 - Joe Flacco
272.8 - Aaron Rodgers
248.8 - Philip Rivers
241.8 - Jay Cutler
232.3 - Matt Schaub
214.5 - Alex Smith


Yards per pass attempt


8.1 - Joe Flacco
8.0 - Peyton Manning
7.9 - Eli Manning
7.8 - Jay Cutler
7.7 - Alex Smith
7.6 - Tom Brady
7.5 - Matt Schaub*
7.5 - Tony Romo*
7.5 - Ben Roethlisberger*
7.4 - Matt Ryan
7.3 - Drew Brees*
7.3 - Aaron Rodgers*
7.1 - Philip Rivers


TD percentage


7.1% - Aaron Rodgers
6.2% - Peyton Manning
5.9% - Matt Ryan**
5.9% - Drew Brees**
5.1% - Ben Roethlisberger
4.9% - Eli Manning
4.8% - Alex Smith*
4.8% - Philip Rivers*
4.5% - Jay Cutler
4.3% - Matt Schaub
4.1% - Tom Brady
3.8% - Joe Flacco
3.7% - Tony Romo


INT percentage


1.0% - Ben Roethlisberger
1.2% - Tom Brady
1.8% - Aaron Rodgers*
1.8% - Peyton Manning*
1.9% - Joe Flacco
2.2% - Matt Schaub*
2.2% - Eli Manning*
2.4% - Alex Smith
2.5% - Drew Brees**
2.5% - Matt Ryan**
4.3% - Philip Rivers
4.5% - Jay Cutler
4.8% - Tony Romo


TD/INT ratio


5.00 - Ben Roethlisberger
4.00 - Aaron Rodgers
3.50 - Peyton Manning
3.33 - Tom Brady
2.33 - Drew Brees
2.33 - Matt Ryan
2.20 - Eli Manning
2.00 - Joe Flacco
2.00 - Matt Schaub
2.00 - Alex Smith
1.11 - Philip Rivers
1.00 - Jay Cutler
0.78 - Tony Romo


Passer rating


105.4 - Aaron Rodgers
105.0 - Peyton Manning
99.9 - Ben Roethlisberger
98.8 - Matt Ryan
97.2 - Tom Brady
96.6 - Alex Smith
94.9 - Eli Manning
92.0 - Joe Flacco
91.6 - Matt Schaub
90.7 - Drew Brees
85.3 - Philip Rivers
82.1 - Tony Romo
78.7 - Jay Cutler


Sack percentage


1.8% - Eli Manning
3.1% - Matt Schaub
4.2% - Peyton Manning
4.6% - Tony Romo
4.8% - Ben Roethlisberger*
4.8% - Drew Brees*
5.1% - Tom Brady
5.2% - Matt Ryan
6.3% - Joe Flacco
7.9% - Philip Rivers
8.2% - Jay Cutler
8.7% - Alex Smith
9.3% - Aaron Rodgers


Notes


*: Sorted by place value of smaller decimals.
**: Identical TD passes and INTs on identical number of pass attempts.


Discuss.

Djfan
10-16-2012, 05:45 PM
He sucks. Trade him.

SidSmythe
10-16-2012, 05:47 PM
Does he play Defense???

DBR96A
10-16-2012, 05:50 PM
Does he play Defense???

No, but up until last year, he could throw to his defense and have his defense block for him. How else could you explain the defense being the only reason the Steelers have been perennial contenders?

pittpete
10-16-2012, 06:47 PM
Passing efficiency in the Redzone?

stopplayn
10-16-2012, 08:03 PM
That stat is not listed because it hurts the agenda. Also, missing is STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE. What you will find is that Peyton Manning is playing elite against tough competition (As he has his whole career for the most part) Ben Roethlisberger is playing elite against subpar competition (Like he has his whole career. Its vs the tough competition where he has trouble). Lets view our Quarterbacks stats after we play 9 out of the next 11 games on our schedule (excluding browns). I have seen strides in Bens game but he has yet to face a top tier Defense. The Best Defense he faced was Denver (Ironically, his worst game of the season). His best games vs the Jets (Minus Revis) and a Bad Raider team.

DEN 79.7
NYJ 125.1
OAK 123.2
PHI 83.2
TEN 87.8

DBR96A
10-16-2012, 08:45 PM
Passing efficiency in the Redzone?

Red zone passer rating


123.1 - Aaron Rodgers
114.8 - Alex Smith
108.0 - Peyton Manning
108.0 - Philip Rivers
98.1 - Drew Brees
97.2 - Ben Roethlisberger
96.3 - Tom Brady
90.6 - Matt Schaub
86.4 - Matt Ryan
86.2 - Jay Cutler
84.9 - Tony Romo
75.8 - Eli Manning
75.2 - Joe Flacco


Goal-to-go passer rating


127.1 - Aaron Rodgers
118.8 - Alex Smith
116.7 - Tony Romo
98.6 - Philip Rivers
95.8 - Eli Manning
95.8 - Joe Flacco
93.1 - Ben Roethlisberger
90.6 - Peyton Manning
87.5 - Drew Brees
79.2 - Jay Cutler
79.2 - Matt Schaub
77.5 - Matt Ryan
75.0 - Tom Brady


And for ****s and giggles...


Third-down pa$$er rating


121.2 - Ben Roethlisberger
110.8 - Aaron Rodgers
101.8 - Peyton Manning
97.6 - Joe Flacco
90.1 - Drew Brees
89.7 - Tom Brady
85.8 - Matt Ryan
74.5 - Matt Schaub
70.1 - Philip Rivers
69.4 - Eli Manning
56.7 - Alex Smith
43.4 - Tony Romo

stopplayn
10-16-2012, 09:32 PM
Strength of schedule?

eniparadoxgma
10-16-2012, 09:43 PM
Strength of schedule?

Aren't you tired?

stopplayn
10-16-2012, 09:56 PM
Tired of posting facts? Never

eniparadoxgma
10-16-2012, 09:59 PM
Tired of posting facts? Never

No: Tired of always lugging those goal posts around.

ROLROC
10-16-2012, 10:28 PM
SOS factored in- Ben is top 25% ahead of Flacco, Phony Romo, and way ahead of Brees.

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/10/11/andrew-luck-is-the-best-quarterback-so-far-by-espns-qbr-once-you-account-for-opponents/

Flasteel
10-16-2012, 10:29 PM
Tired of being wrong?

Tired of having a franchise QB?

How many other teams have a QB who ranks at the top of all these categories?

How many other teams have a QB with a winning percentage in the top 5 all-time...with multiple Super
Bowl victories?

Be careful what you criticize or wish for. We've been there.

stopplayn
10-17-2012, 12:24 AM
When Ben starts playing elite consistently vs TOP DEFENSES then I will be his loudest fan. So far in 9 years he has not. Not many Quarterbacks have the luxury of posting a 24 qb rating and winning a SB. Or Posting a 33 rating and winning a game to go to one (Jets). Nor do many quarterbacks have the luxury of commiting 24 turnovers and winning a SB (08). Lastly, not many have the luxury of being 10-4 in the playoffs with 21 TDs and 18 INTs.

stopplayn
10-17-2012, 12:27 AM
SOS factored in- Ben is top 25% ahead of Flacco, Phony Romo, and way ahead of Brees.

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/10/11/andrew-luck-is-the-best-quarterback-so-far-by-espns-qbr-once-you-account-for-opponents/

Stat says Luck is the best quarterback in the NFL. You guys DO realise who Lucks OC is dont you? This link could be one of the biggest indictments against Ben Roethlisberger

Slapstick
10-17-2012, 06:18 AM
I have no idea what stopplayn is posting, but just thinking about the possibilities makes me laugh...

stopplayn
10-17-2012, 07:30 AM
You guys watch how Slapstick follows me around from thread to thread. But he has my on ignore. YEAH RIGHT........... LOL

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
10-17-2012, 10:11 AM
Stat says Luck is the best quarterback in the NFL. You guys DO realise who Lucks OC is dont you? This link could be one of the biggest indictments against Ben Roethlisberger

How is this an indictment against Ben? It is one stat that shows Ben's OC - who won 2 SB trophies with him - is also succeeding elsewhere. Are you trying to somehow claim that Ben was a failure until this year?

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
10-17-2012, 11:05 AM
Football statistics are incredibly subjective. Stats don't take into account the following:

Division - Each team plays 37.5% of their games against the three teams in their division. Each team also only plays against 13 of 31 teams, so schedule is a factor as well, but that tends to somewhat even out over the course of a career.
Location - Come November, you have factors such as rain, snow, cold, and wind to deal with up north. Dome teams and warm weather teams do not face the same elements which are more conducive to putting up numbers.
Your D - Does your D get you back on the field quickly allowing you to run more plays? A shorter field? Turnovers? Momentum?
O line - Is there an NFL QB in history who would have failed in the position that Troy Aikman was in? How about anyone who could succeed in the position that David Carr was drafted into? Most others are in a situation in between.
Your other skill players - What does a good RB do for a QB? How about a great WR? Daunte Culpepper was a stud when all he had to do was drop back and throw the ball up in the air anywhere in the direction of Randy Moss. Then there is always the TE safety valve that can really help sustain a drive on third down.

Cohesion between every player, every unit, every aspect is more pronounced in football than any other sport. Therefore, using numbers as a definitive evaluator is completely flawed. JMO.

stopplayn
10-17-2012, 01:30 PM
How is this an indictment against Ben? It is one stat that shows Ben's OC - who won 2 SB trophies with him - is also succeeding elsewhere. Are you trying to somehow claim that Ben was a failure until this year?

Ben has won 2 SB's and played in 3. He is NO failure. However, he is inconsistent and EVERYONE in Steeler Nation said it was because of Bruce Arians. I for years defended Arians and said the problem was Ben and not Arians. I find it quite gratifying to see that Bruce is showing that HE was not the problem as he has left and had continued success.

On the other hand we STILL have a sack issue, a lack of scoring issue and when we get in the redzone we have to settle for FGs. Thats is not happening in Indy

stopplayn
10-17-2012, 01:31 PM
Football statistics are incredibly subjective. Stats don't take into account the following:

Division - Each team plays 37.5% of their games against the three teams in their division. Each team also only plays against 13 of 31 teams, so schedule is a factor as well, but that tends to somewhat even out over the course of a career.
Location - Come November, you have factors such as rain, snow, cold, and wind to deal with up north. Dome teams and warm weather teams do not face the same elements which are more conducive to putting up numbers.
Your D - Does your D get you back on the field quickly allowing you to run more plays? A shorter field? Turnovers? Momentum?
O line - Is there an NFL QB in history who would have failed in the position that Troy Aikman was in? How about anyone who could succeed in the position that David Carr was drafted into? Most others are in a situation in between.
Your other skill players - What does a good RB do for a QB? How about a great WR? Daunte Culpepper was a stud when all he had to do was drop back and throw the ball up in the air anywhere in the direction of Randy Moss. Then there is always the TE safety valve that can really help sustain a drive on third down.

Cohesion between every player, every unit, every aspect is more pronounced in football than any other sport. Therefore, using numbers as a definitive evaluator is completely flawed. JMO.

Good post!!

RuthlessBurgher
10-17-2012, 01:41 PM
Ben has won 2 SB's and played in 3. He is NO failure. However, he is inconsistent and EVERYONE in Steeler Nation said it was because of Bruce Arians. I for years defended Arians and said the problem was Ben and not Arians. I find it quite gratifying to see that Bruce is showing that HE was not the problem as he has left and had continued success.

On the other hand we STILL have a sack issue, a lack of scoring issue and when we get in the redzone we have to settle for FGs. Thats is not happening in Indy

Maybe it's just me, but it looks like Ben has more TD passes than Luck (10 vs. 7), fewer INT's than Luck (2 vs. 7), fewer sacks than Luck (10 vs. 13), a better completion percentage than Luck (64.6 vs. 53.4), more yards per pass than Luck (7.5 vs. 6.7), and a better passer rating than Luck (99.9 vs. 72.0).

stopplayn
10-17-2012, 01:49 PM
Luck was rated the #1 qb AS A ROOKIE according to this article. Ben has a losing record while not playing a GOOD TEAM yet. Ben has a better team than Luck/Arians. Ben is a 9 year vet. Did I mention that Ben has a losing record and the only defenses he has played elite against are BAD defenses. Our next 8 out of 10 games will prove how much Ben has improved. I dont get all tingley over stats after 5 games vs inferrior talent. HE IS SUPPOSED to have good numbers vs bad teams. He has his whole career. However, vs elite teams he has horrible stats and thats why he is 10-4 in the playoff with 21 TDs and 18 INTs. Is that elite?

Flasteel
10-17-2012, 07:13 PM
. I dont get all tingley over stats after 5 games vs inferrior talent. HE IS SUPPOSED to have good numbers vs bad teams. He has his whole career. However, vs elite teams he has horrible stats and thats why he is 10-4 in the playoff with 21 TDs and 18 INTs. Is that elite?



Quarterbacks Sorted by 1st - Most Wins
2nd - Highest Win Percentage
Rank
Quarterback
Games Started
Wins
Losses
Percent
Ref


1
Tom Brady (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Brady)
22
16
6
.727
[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records#cite_note-0)


2
Joe Montana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Montana)
23
16
7
.696
[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records#cite_note-1)


3
Terry Bradshaw (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Bradshaw)
19
14
5
.737
[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records#cite_note-2)


4
John Elway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Elway)
21
14
7
.667
[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records#cite_note-3)


5
Brett Farve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Brett_Favre)
24
13
11
.542
[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records#cite_note-4)


6
Troy Aikman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Aikman)
15
11
4
.733
[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records#cite_note-5)


7
Roger Staubach (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Staubach)
17
11
6
.647



8
Ben Roethlisberger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Roethlisberger)
14
10
4
.714
[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records#cite_note-6)


9
Bart Starr (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_Starr)
10
9
1
.900
[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records#cite_note-7)


10
Kurt Warner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Warner)
13
9
4
.692



11
Donovan McNabb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donovan_McNabb)
16
9
7
.563



12
Jim Kelly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Kelly)
17
9
8
.529



13
Peyton Manning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyton_Manning)
19
9
10
.474
[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records#cite_note-8)


14
Jim Plunkett (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Plunkett)
10
8
2
.800
[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records#cite_note-9)


15
Eli Manning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Manning)
11
8
3
.727
[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records#cite_note-10)


16
Steve Young (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Young_(American_football))
14
8
6
.571
[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records#cite_note-11)


17
Dan Marino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Marino)
18
8
10
.444
[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records#cite_note-12)


18
Ken Stabler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Stabler)
12
7
5
.583



19 T
Joe Theisman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Theisman)
8
6
2
.750
[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records#cite_note-13)


Johnny Unitas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Unitas)
8
6
2
.750



21
Phil Simms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Simms)
10
6
4
.600



22 T
Bob Griese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Griese)
11
6
5
.546
[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records#cite_note-14)


Fran Tarkenton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran_Tarkenton)
11
6
5
.546



24 T
Sid Luckman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_Luckman)*
6
5
1
.833
[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records#cite_note-15)


Trent Dilfer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trent_Dilfer)
6
5
1
.833
[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records#cite_note-16)


26
Mark Rypien (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Rypien)
7
5
2
.714
[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records#cite_note-17)


27 T
Jake Delhomme (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Delhomme)
8
5
3
.625



Len Dawson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len_Dawson)
8
5
3
.625



29 T
Drew Brees (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drew_Brees)
9
5
4
.556
[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records#cite_note-18)


Joe Flacco (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Flacco)
9
5
4
.556

NJ-STEELER
10-17-2012, 08:47 PM
When Ben starts playing elite consistently vs TOP DEFENSES then I will be his loudest fan. So far in 9 years he has not. Not many Quarterbacks have the luxury of posting a 24 qb rating and winning a SB. Or Posting a 33 rating and winning a game to go to one (Jets). Nor do many quarterbacks have the luxury of commiting 24 turnovers and winning a SB (08). Lastly, not many have the luxury of being 10-4 in the playoffs with 21 TDs and 18 INTs.


not many teams have the luxury of a 2nd year QB posting over a 100 QB rating in 3 consecutive road playoffs games just to get to the superbowl either

Sugar
10-17-2012, 09:06 PM
not many teams have the luxury of a 2nd year QB posting over a 100 QB rating in 3 consecutive road playoffs games just to get to the superbowl either

You mean, in order to win the Super Bowl you have to get there first? What a concept!!! ;)