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flippy
10-12-2012, 12:34 PM
Who cares about the injuries. Isn't the Standard still the Standard around here?

Not only do we lack talent in our starters, but we also lack it in our backups. Tomlin used to be able to win with 3rd stringers. What happened?

Is the stuff he says becoming stale in the locker room?

hellbanger
10-12-2012, 01:07 PM
I believe Tomlin is a good coach. I also believe he has an over inflated belief in his ability in evaluating, coaching up, and drafting talent. Too few of these guys he's drafted have stepped up. Although this season is not looking good, the lack of talent on this team is far more concerning for the future.

squidkid
10-12-2012, 04:17 PM
they were cowhers 3rd stringers............and cowhers starters for that matter

steelz09
10-12-2012, 06:20 PM
Because it's October and it's time to "unleash hell"

RuthlessBurgher
10-12-2012, 06:48 PM
Interesting Tomlin stat I heard on the radio today...the earliest a Tomlin-coached Steeler team has incurred its 3rd loss before this season? Game #9. Now we already have 3 losses 5 games in.

flippy
10-12-2012, 07:22 PM
Interesting Tomlin stat I heard on the radio today...the earliest a Tomlin-coached Steeler team has incurred its 3rd loss before this season? Game #9. Now we already have 3 losses 5 games in.

Maybe we can keep it to 3 losses. Let's hope.

I heard on ESPN radio, the Steelers still have a 60% shot at making the playoffs. Not sure who came up with it or how.

virgilbosetti
10-12-2012, 08:52 PM
I think Cowher was the real master at keeping back ups ready to bring it. He was a player's coach but he was very tough. Walked a fine line that Tomlin hasn't found......IMO probably never will. I wish him well.

Ghost
10-12-2012, 09:07 PM
I'm not giving Tomlin or the coaches a pass, but a lot of this falls on the players. Have some damn heart. Some of these guys look like they are going through the motions out there. Stop being timid. And NO ONE could have predicted how down right terrible Ike Taylor would become. Uncovered or PI every play. If I'm an opposing Off Coordinator; I tell my QB to throw on him non-stop, all game. Every time you need a 1st, pick on Ike. Adams - rookie ot not, you are 6'7 / 350 - block someone. And at this point I wouldn't let Gilbert walk in my house for fear he'd trip and fall and crush my 21 month old and at least one of my dogs....

virgilbosetti
10-12-2012, 09:39 PM
I'm not giving Tomlin or the coaches a pass, but a lot of this falls on the players. Have some damn heart. Some of these guys look like they are going through the motions out there. Stop being timid. And NO ONE could have predicted how down right terrible Ike Taylor would become. Uncovered or PI every play. If I'm an opposing Off Coordinator; I tell my QB to throw on him non-stop, all game. Every time you need a 1st, pick on Ike. Adams - rookie ot not, you are 6'7 / 350 - block someone. And at this point I wouldn't let Gilbert walk in my house for fear hed' trip and fall and crush my 21 month old and at least on of my dogs....

Told my wife in the first quarter....they should pull Ike now before it gets worse. Cause it will get worse. Sure enough it did.

papillon
10-12-2012, 10:36 PM
The standard stopped being the standard when the football players that you are putting on the field aren't in the same zip code talent wise to the ones that created the standard. Think about it:

James Farrior - Larry Foote
Aaron Smith - Heyward
younger Hampton - old Hampton or Ziggy
Harrison - Carter
Polamalu - Will Allen or Ryan Mundy
Woodley - Worilds
Mendenhall - Redman, Batch, Rainey
Pouncey - Legursky
Gilbert - Adams

There is no way that those players are ever going to uphold a standard; they'll lower the standard and then stand up to that lower standard. If Ben were an average quarterback the Steelers would be 0-5 or 1-4. They just aren't a very good football team right now and they're banged up with injuries.

Pappy