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SanAntonioSteelerFan
09-23-2012, 11:40 PM
"The two teams are scoring at will" ... that is what nfl.com is saying deep into the 4th qrtr of the Pats*/Ravens game.

Are we at the point yet where one can tune in for the last few minutes of the 4th qrtr to "watch the game", just like a basketball game? Because the offenses are just going to basically score every time they get the ball, so there's no point in watching the 1st 3 and a half quarters?

I like 10-6 games. But the rules are going to make them extinct, with games more likely to be to a 35-28, last team with the ball wins.

FWIW, I've watched a lot less NFL this year.

Shoe
09-23-2012, 11:47 PM
Yes, I was just thinking this same thing driving home. Football is a video game right now, pure and simple. No rhyme, no reason. Just the ball moving up and down the field at will.

SteelBucks
09-23-2012, 11:48 PM
Also hard to watch when a flag is thrown every other play.

papillon
09-24-2012, 12:54 AM
The Ravens defense actually won the game for them by stopping Tom Brady when they needed to, unlike the Steeler defense today.

Pappy

Discipline of Steel
09-24-2012, 12:55 AM
i have watched A LOT less football so far this year. and almost none of the ESPN pregame show that i used to LOVE. Just too much agrandizing of the quarterbacks, new 'greatest of all time' every year, and human interest stories on players that grew up in the slums.

DBR96A
09-24-2012, 01:01 AM
I only watch the games. I do not watch any of the pre-game or post-game shows. For that matter, I always tune into the game five minutes after the scheduled time so that the first thing I see is the opening kickoff.

For as ****ty as ESPN has become as a TV network, though, I still enjoy listening to ESPN Radio.

Jigawatts
09-24-2012, 04:21 AM
The Thursday night pre game show is one of the worst things I've seen on television since I'm A Celeberity Get Me Out Of Here. This statement really has nothing to do with anything, but I just needed to say that.

Oviedo
09-24-2012, 07:48 AM
The Ravens defense actually won the game for them by stopping Tom Brady when they needed to, unlike the Steeler defense today.

Pappy

That's because the Ravens defense hasn't been complacent. They have made changes. Some forced like when Ryan left but they continue to be aggressive and go into every game wanting to beat up the opponents not play it safe.

Fans can bemoan the fact that scoring is on the rise but that is a waste of time. The NFL is more popular than ever and is making more money than ever. Fast paced, up tempo is how it is going to be so embrace it or become a soccer fan if you like low scoring affairs.

papillon
09-24-2012, 08:13 AM
That's because the Ravens defense hasn't been complacent. They have made changes. Some forced like when Ryan left but they continue to be aggressive and go into every game wanting to beat up the opponents not play it safe.

Fans can bemoan the fact that scoring is on the rise but that is a waste of time. The NFL is more popular than ever and is making more money than ever. Fast paced, up tempo is how it is going to be so embrace it or become a soccer fan if you like low scoring affairs.

I'm already a soccer fan and will watch a good soccer match instead of a football game except Steeler games. The Steeler games are the only ones I have any interest in watching. I'm traveling and staying in a hotel in Birmingham and only watched the last 5 or 6 minutes of last night's game, it was a good game and I was a captive audience, not much to do in Birmingham. I've already made the decision on the NFL and football in general. My kids, while Steeler fans, only want to watch games if I watch with them. It may take time, but over time (probably after I'm no longer extant) the NFL will suffer for the decisions being made today, IMHO.

Pappy

stopplayn
09-24-2012, 08:43 AM
The Ravens defense actually won the game for them by stopping Tom Brady when they needed to, unlike the Steeler defense today.

Pappy

Actually, the Ravens won because their Qb put them in position to score late. Flacco scored in the 4th quarter and thats why they won. Those are the hurtful facts

Oviedo
09-24-2012, 08:50 AM
I'm already a soccer fan and will watch a good soccer match instead of a football game except Steeler games. The Steeler games are the only ones I have any interest in watching. I'm traveling and staying in a hotel in Birmingham and only watched the last 5 or 6 minutes of last night's game, it was a good game and I was a captive audience, not much to do in Birmingham. I've already made the decision on the NFL and football in general. My kids, while Steeler fans, only want to watch games if I watch with them. It may take time, but over time (probably after I'm no longer extant) the NFL will suffer for the decisions being made today, IMHO.

Pappy

Pretty much the same for me but I've become a huge soccer fan because my daughters have played i for the past 15 years and I have a daughter playing in college now. Once you understand soccer it is actually very interesting. Many of the same principles as hockey and I love hockey.

I still watch mny NFL games but always the Steelers. I really don't mind the offense. To me that is more enjoyable than watching punters and kickers take center stage.

feltdizz
09-24-2012, 09:34 AM
I'm watching as much football as possible. I'm seeing defenses intercept passes, return some for TD's. Sack QB's, hit QB's, force fumbles, return fumbles for TD's.

7 teams were held to 14 or less points yesterday... if our D had any balls we would have held a bad Oakland team to 14 points.

Oviedo
09-24-2012, 09:38 AM
I'm watching as much football as possible. I'm seeing defenses intercept passes, return some for TD's. Sack QB's, hit QB's, force fumbles, return fumbles for TD's.

7 teams were held to 14 or less points yesterday... if our D had any balls we would have held a bad Oakland team to 14 points.

"Sack a QB", what is that?

feltdizz
09-24-2012, 09:42 AM
"Sack a QB", what is that?

I've been told it's when a defensive player applies pressure behind the offenses OL and wraps his arms around the guy who is trying to throw the football and brings him to the ground.... I've heard it has the ability to change the momentum in a game.

Oviedo
09-24-2012, 09:59 AM
I've been told it's when a defensive player applies pressure behind the offenses OL and wraps his arms around the guy who is trying to throw the football and brings him to the ground.... I've heard it has the ability to change the momentum in a game.

Does it happen often when you rush only 3 or 4 people?

phillyesq
09-24-2012, 10:14 AM
Does it happen often when you rush only 3 or 4 people?

Did you not see the end of the game when the Steelers were bringing extra guys and it was getting picked up?

Oviedo
09-24-2012, 10:16 AM
Did you not see the end of the game when the Steelers were bringing extra guys and it was getting picked up?

Yes and that was the problem. They knew what was coming because it was the end of the game and we were desperate for the stop. Where was it the whole game. That is the problem...no surprise, predictable defense.

feltdizz
09-24-2012, 10:38 AM
The beginning of the Rats, Pats game had blitzes by the DB's on their first possessions. You have to get pressure early on these QB's...

Eich
09-24-2012, 11:00 AM
Actually, the Ravens won because their Qb put them in position to score late. Flacco scored in the 4th quarter and thats why they won. Those are the hurtful facts

Yeah, right steelers43...... I mean.... stopplayn. Flacco is now the elite QB. Ben and Brady aren't.

snarky
09-24-2012, 11:26 AM
The NFL is becoming unwatchable for me. It used to be a field position game where if you got the ball inside your own ten and made a few first downs before punting, that was considered a good drive because you switched the field position. And game winning, two-minute drives were exciting because they were the exception, not the rule. Combine that with the ridiculous amount of advertising and Jim Nants taking time between plays to tell me about some sit-com that's sure to be cancelled within the next month and I'm pretty much done with it. And that's not to mention the games taking way longer with the replacement refs.

Yesterday, I tuned in for the end of the late games on CBS and it was interesting enough. I just don't see myself caring about a league where I can only stand to watch the last five minutes of a game.

I'm like a few people above, I much prefer watching a soccer game than a football game at this point. My sense is that I'm probably nothing more than a fair-weather Steelers fan at this point. So if this season looks like a flame-out, I likely won't be watching any football. (Not that I want to be a fair-weather Steeler fan; it's just that I'm finding the new NFL boring).

feltdizz
09-24-2012, 03:07 PM
soccer? good lord...

I'm sorry but this whole "I'm watching more soccer" is hilarious...

those guys flop more than whores on payday.

SanAntonioSteelerFan
09-24-2012, 04:08 PM
soccer? good lord...

I'm sorry but this whole "I'm watching more soccer" is hilarious...

those guys flop more than whores on payday.But is that more than a WR covered 1-on-1 down the sideline? :p

papillon
09-24-2012, 05:18 PM
soccer? good lord...

I'm sorry but this whole "I'm watching more soccer" is hilarious...

those guys flop more than whores on payday.

I'm not sure what is hilarious about it; I get it, a lot don't care for soccer, but the reality is I'm watching more of whatever else is on and not NFL football unless the Steelers are playing. I'm in a hotel room with very little to do in Birmingham, AL and I didn't watch the ravens vs pats from start to finish. I caught the last 5-6 minutes and brief glimpses as a channel surfed during commercials of National Treasure which I've seen a handful of times, but it's still more entertaining than an NFL football game in which I don't have a vested interest.

That's me, clearly, I'm in the minority as evidenced by the ratings, but this new version of the NFL sucks as far as I'm concerned and it isn't the refereeing that is turning me away.

Pappy

papillon
09-24-2012, 05:27 PM
The NFL is becoming unwatchable for me. It used to be a field position game where if you got the ball inside your own ten and made a few first downs before punting, that was considered a good drive because you switched the field position. And game winning, two-minute drives were exciting because they were the exception, not the rule. Combine that with the ridiculous amount of advertising and Jim Nants taking time between plays to tell me about some sit-com that's sure to be cancelled within the next month and I'm pretty much done with it. And that's not to mention the games taking way longer with the replacement refs.

Yesterday, I tuned in for the end of the late games on CBS and it was interesting enough. I just don't see myself caring about a league where I can only stand to watch the last five minutes of a game.

I'm like a few people above, I much prefer watching a soccer game than a football game at this point. My sense is that I'm probably nothing more than a fair-weather Steelers fan at this point. So if this season looks like a flame-out, I likely won't be watching any football. (Not that I want to be a fair-weather Steeler fan; it's just that I'm finding the new NFL boring).

I was born and raised in Pittsburgh, so, I have the Steelers in my blood and that isn't ever going to wane. I love watching Steeler football and it's still exciting even with all the warts. But, for other NFL games I'm with you 100%, I have two boys they play soccer and lacrosse and each game is awesome to watch once you understand the rules and take the time to be open to something different.

Pappy