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SanAntonioSteelerFan
09-23-2012, 08:42 PM
To start, it did look like H2H on the replay to me. I'm not sure if he fully left his feet, or even what the definition of "launch" is, but from the replays I saw it was at least H2H, and so opens the door to whatever Goodell wants to do.

I'm guessing big bucks, suspension, AND the Steelers and/or coaches themselves getting penalized as well.

Steelgal
09-23-2012, 08:44 PM
Suspend him, atleast it will get him OFF of the field. That can only be a plus for the Steelers at this point.

He doesn't have a history of penalties, I don't think, so I'm guessing a big fine and maybe suspension. Don't think the coaches get anything from it.

NJ-STEELER
09-23-2012, 08:46 PM
i dont see anything he did wrong

its a violent game sometimes

Jooser
09-23-2012, 08:49 PM
He'll be fined I'm sure, but no suspension is warranted IMO. Ed Reed just got away with a similar shot in the Pats game and drew no flag either.

winwithd
09-23-2012, 08:49 PM
Anyone just see E Reed just launch himself with two forearms to J Edelman's head. I think Mundy's helmet-to-helmet was incidental, he was going for a gut shot. Reed launched himself at the defenseless receiver's head. If Mundy gets equal to or more then Reed then something is unjust.

Ghost
09-23-2012, 09:07 PM
Shouldn't be fined or suspended. Never left his feet. It's unfortunate but in the heat of the moment these type of hits can happen. The alternative is to let the guy catch a TD? Normal play in the course of the game. Just b/c someone gets hurt doesn't mean it should be an automatic fine. I will be disappointed if this gets any repreand.

NJ-STEELER
09-23-2012, 09:18 PM
hate the friggin ravens, but i saw nothing wrong with reed's hit either

Steel Life
09-24-2012, 08:18 PM
I thought it was a "bang-bang" play & there was no "Hitting a Defensless Receiver" warranted & DHB's movement brought his head into the hit. That said...he'll get fined.

steelz09
09-24-2012, 08:43 PM
I didn't think it was H2H contact. Hit on defensive receiver? Maybe.

Slapstick
09-24-2012, 10:18 PM
He'll get the standard $21K fine just because he's a Steeler...

No suspension...

Oviedo
09-25-2012, 08:15 AM
He'll get the standard $21K fine just because he's a Steeler...

No suspension...


However, it will just reinforce the perception that the Steelers balk at the rules and therefore refs will be quicker to call more personal fouls in the future for legal hits like what Ryan Clark got in the Jets game.

flippy
09-25-2012, 08:28 AM
I'm with the it just happened crowd. No need to fine or suspend anyone. Although I hope Troy and Clark get back on the field together soon.

Oviedo
09-25-2012, 08:51 AM
I'm with the it just happened crowd. No need to fine or suspend anyone. Although I hope Troy and Clark get back on the field together soon.

A fine is guaranteed. When you have 12 minutes of television "drama" with a player lying unconscious on the field surrounded by emergency crews, a statement will be send. It is essential for the leagues upcoming legal cases by former players to show they are proactively trying to stop these types of hits everytime they happen.

I had hopes for Mundy but he is clearly below the standard when he has to start. We need two safeties in the next draft really bad.

Slapstick
09-25-2012, 08:54 AM
However, it will just reinforce the perception that the Steelers balk at the rules and therefore refs will be quicker to call more personal fouls in the future for legal hits like what Ryan Clark got in the Jets game.

The Steelers have already been penalized 28 times in three games...the refs are already too quick to call penalties on the Steelers...

While the Steelers are not yet the most penalized team in the NFL (they are 4th most) the increase in penalties called on the Steelers has been pretty dramatic...

Oviedo
09-25-2012, 08:56 AM
The Steelers have already been penalized 28 times in three games...the refs are already too quick to call penalties on the Steelers...

And Mundy's hit will just ensure that trend continues. I'm not blaming Mundy because it was a band-bang play but it was illegal.

Slapstick
09-25-2012, 09:01 AM
And Mundy's hit will just ensure that trend continues. I'm not blaming Mundy because it was a band-bang play but it was illegal.

The trend was going to continue regardless of what Mundy did or did not do...

flippy
09-25-2012, 09:03 AM
A fine is guaranteed. When you have 12 minutes of television "drama" with a player lying unconscious on the field surrounded by emergency crews, a statement will be send. It is essential for the leagues upcoming legal cases by former players to show they are proactively trying to stop these types of hits everytime they happen.

I had hopes for Mundy but he is clearly below the standard when he has to start. We need two safeties in the next draft really bad.

The league should start a fund that takes in money from the extra commercial time created from these hits. It's kinda crazy, but these hits are what make the NFL. No one's looking some random tackle Larry Foote made. They aren't showing it over and over on Sportscenter. No one's talking about it.

Fining him gives the media a reason to talk about it. They then sensationalize it. And it's a virtuous cycle that uses a "negative" to promote the game.

Ryan Mundy will essentially be pitching in to the NFL's most effective marketing campaign.

Oviedo
09-25-2012, 10:18 AM
The league should start a fund that takes in money from the extra commercial time created from these hits. It's kinda crazy, but these hits are what make the NFL. No one's looking some random tackle Larry Foote made. They aren't showing it over and over on Sportscenter. No one's talking about it.

Fining him gives the media a reason to talk about it. They then sensationalize it. And it's a virtuous cycle that uses a "negative" to promote the game.

Ryan Mundy will essentially be pitching in to the NFL's most effective marketing campaign.

These hits WERE what made the NFL until former players saw the chance for a money grab to make up for the loss of money they have mismanaged. If you don't like the rules changes and the call blame the former players who are all lining up for another payday in the courts.
The issue is in the forefront and talked about because of the pending legal Armageddon.

ikestops85
09-25-2012, 03:59 PM
A fine is guaranteed. When you have 12 minutes of television "drama" with a player lying unconscious on the field surrounded by emergency crews, a statement will be send. It is essential for the leagues upcoming legal cases by former players to show they are proactively trying to stop these types of hits everytime they happen.

I had hopes for Mundy but he is clearly below the standard when he has to start. We need two safeties in the next draft really bad.


I agree Ovi. Defenders are essentially in a no-win situation. There are certain times they can hit and certain areas they can hit. By the time they think of all this stuff the receiver is past them with the ball. I would not want to be a defender in this day and age.

I also think safeties have to be a priority in the draft. Preferrably ones that can make plays on the ball (It brings tears to my eyes seeing Earl Thomas playing for the Seahawks. I really wanted the guy). We need pass rushers and ball hawks in this new NFL. You have those types of players and I don't care what type of scheme you play you'll have some success.

NJ-STEELER
09-29-2012, 10:08 AM
dont know how i missed it before

but keenean lewis took a hell of a helmet to helmet hit from mundy on that play

worse the DHB IMO

Djfan
09-29-2012, 11:48 AM
This wussie league is getting hard to watch. I have to admit that I pay less and less attention to it in every way. Sad, but I think my fan days are waning.

SanAntonioSteelerFan
09-29-2012, 06:43 PM
This wussie league is getting hard to watch. I have to admit that I pay less and less attention to it in every way. Sad, but I think my fan days are waning.

I agree, DJ. It's even harder to watch the Steeler games than it used to be, any good play has the possibility of being flagged and brought back. The rules are applied so random it's almost like watching someone throw dice.

Djfan
09-29-2012, 08:11 PM
I agree, DJ. It's even harder to watch the Steeler games than it used to be, any good play has the possibility of being flagged and brought back. The rules are applied so random it's almost like watching someone throw dice.

That someone is Rogie goodell and/or the commentator. It's sick. I feel ripped off by this crap. If I miss games to hunt this season don't be surprised.

With this election coming up, I may have to better my aim than my Steelers love!