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feltdizz
09-09-2012, 10:36 PM
Our pass D is horrible

NJ-STEELER
09-09-2012, 10:49 PM
our offense is scoring to fast and not letting the defense rest..


lol

drprwnap
09-09-2012, 11:00 PM
Our pass D is horrible

Our D is horrible PERIOD

Oviedo
09-10-2012, 06:41 AM
I'll get grief because I said it in other threads but LeBeau started playing scared as soon as Manning completed a few consecutive passes. He called off the dogs that pressured Manning in the first half and went into the shell that good QBs pick apart just like he always does. No pressure = no success.

steelblood
09-10-2012, 07:02 AM
I'll get grief because I said it in other threads but LeBeau started playing scared as soon as Manning completed a few consecutive passes. He called off the dogs that pressured Manning in the first half and went into the shell that good QBs pick apart just like he always does. No pressure = no success.

You sound like my mother-in-law with the same complaints all of the time. But, you are right about pressure. Hood and McClendon were awful. Where was that fire they showed in preseason.

BURGH86STEEL
09-10-2012, 07:07 AM
I'll get grief because I said it in other threads but LeBeau started playing scared as soon as Manning completed a few consecutive passes. He called off the dogs that pressured Manning in the first half and went into the shell that good QBs pick apart just like he always does. No pressure = no success.

I believe the issues were that no one was able to win one on one up front and Manning did a good job of changing plays and adjusting to the Steelers defense.

Oviedo
09-10-2012, 07:09 AM
You sound like my mother-in-law with the same complaints all of the time. But, you are right about pressure. Hood and McClendon were awful. Where was that fire they showed in preseason.

I didn't know that your mother in law was a brilliant football analyst. Now I know where you get all your good stuff from;)

Seriously though until there is some positive changes the opinions are warranted.

fezziwig
09-10-2012, 09:43 AM
I'm glad to see other recognize that eac time we score n offense our defense gies up a touch down. Maybe not each time but a good bit of the time.

If Lebeau is all that we and everyone else believes he is then, we should be dominate on defense. Lebeaus days are beyond him in my opinion. If he needs a young James Harrison to make his defense work well, this defenses days have been numbered for sometime now. Stats are nice and we had he number one d last season but they weren't number one when it counted.

ikestops85
09-10-2012, 12:52 PM
It looked like the offense had the same old prolems. We drive down the field holding the ball for 8 -10 minutes and then settle for a FG. Ben once again had me throwing stuff at the TV. Once when he had Heath wide open in the endzone but got no air under the ball and it was tipped. The second time was near the end of the half when Ben completed a pass near the 5 yard line with about 40 seconds left. He goes up to the line, not really hurrying, and then he spikes the ball. WTF was that. We had a timeout but instead of using it we lost a down. Of course we had to settle for a FG.

Overall I liked much of the offensive play calling. What I didn't like was when we had a first and goal inside the 5 yard line. That's the part of game Rooney was saying we need to improve on but instead of running the ball into the end zone we pass. Three straight incompletions and on comes Sushi.

feltdizz
09-10-2012, 12:58 PM
It looked like the offense had the same old prolems. We drive down the field holding the ball for 8 -10 minutes and then settle for a FG. Ben once again had me throwing stuff at the TV. Once when he had Heath wide open in the endzone but got no air under the ball and it was tipped. The second time was near the end of the half when Ben completed a pass near the 5 yard line with about 40 seconds left. He goes up to the line, not really hurrying, and then he spikes the ball. WTF was that. We had a timeout but instead of using it we lost a down. Of course we had to settle for a FG.

Overall I liked much of the offensive play calling. What I didn't like was when we had a first and goal inside the 5 yard line. That's the part of game Rooney was saying we need to improve on but instead of running the ball into the end zone we pass. Three straight incompletions and on comes Sushi.

That wasted play was a Ben special... he still has issues with clock management. We should have run a pass play and if nothing was there throw it out of bounds. Why give them time to rest or reset?

Oviedo
09-10-2012, 01:03 PM
It looked like the offense had the same old prolems. We drive down the field holding the ball for 8 -10 minutes and then settle for a FG. Ben once again had me throwing stuff at the TV. Once when he had Heath wide open in the endzone but got no air under the ball and it was tipped. The second time was near the end of the half when Ben completed a pass near the 5 yard line with about 40 seconds left. He goes up to the line, not really hurrying, and then he spikes the ball. WTF was that. We had a timeout but instead of using it we lost a down. Of course we had to settle for a FG.

Overall I liked much of the offensive play calling. What I didn't like was when we had a first and goal inside the 5 yard line. That's the part of game Rooney was saying we need to improve on but instead of running the ball into the end zone we pass. Three straight incompletions and on comes Sushi.

We have the same old problems on offense because we have the same old issues on the OL. We still have Foster and then worse Legursky playing at RG versus DeCastro. Gilbert goes down and we bring in a raw rookie. It's the same story. Until we get a dominant OL running in tight quarters like down by the goal line is always going to be hard for us.

Its not like Redman showed he was a solution when he ran for a 1.8 yard average. I thin spreading them out was the right call given how bad we ran to that point.

fezziwig
09-10-2012, 01:20 PM
Lets not forget Tomlin and his red flags. If someone is in the booth telling him when and when not to throw that red flag, this person needed fired a few seasons ago. Not only did Tomlin make a fool of himself not having his act together but, he helped out the Bronco and lost a timeout for our team.
And once again, a big tall guy like Ben can't throw over the outreached arms of the defense.

papillon
09-10-2012, 01:29 PM
Lets not forget Tomlin and his red flags. If someone is in the booth telling him when and when not to throw that red flag, this person needed fired a few seasons ago. Not only did Tomlin make a fool of himself not having his act together but, he helped out the Bronco and lost a timeout for our team.
And once again, a big tall guy like Ben can't throw over the outreached arms of the defense.

I don't have a problem with the challenge; Manning was in hurry up and was going to run another play, it was a questionable catch and Tomlin made the call. He lost, but he also got more time to get his defense set and rested a bit than if he had used an actual timeout. In the hurry up you don't have time to see the replay.

Pappy

fezziwig
09-10-2012, 01:32 PM
pap i understand and respect your thoughts on this and if it was only this time or a couple before i would let it go. but it's not and i believe tomlin has the worse red flag record in the nfl. something needs to be done. i did think the same thing last night, at least the defense gets a breather.

Oviedo
09-10-2012, 03:37 PM
I don't have a problem with the challenge; Manning was in hurry up and was going to run another play, it was a questionable catch and Tomlin made the call. He lost, but he also got more time to get his defense set and rested a bit than if he had used an actual timeout. In the hurry up you don't have time to see the replay.

Pappy

I agree. I think Tomlin did it knowing what the outcome was going to be but with the challenge he bought his defense more time to regroup versus a regular time out. IMO Tomlin was crazy like a fox on that one. Very smart on his part.

ikestops85
09-10-2012, 05:49 PM
We have the same old problems on offense because we have the same old issues on the OL. We still have Foster and then worse Legursky playing at RG versus DeCastro. Gilbert goes down and we bring in a raw rookie. It's the same story. Until we get a dominant OL running in tight quarters like down by the goal line is always going to be hard for us.

Its not like Redman showed he was a solution when he ran for a 1.8 yard average. I thin spreading them out was the right call given how bad we ran to that point.

I agree ... the offensive line is so inconsistent. I saw Pouncey wiff on a block on a short yardage play. Legursky was as bad as I'd ever seen and if Colon is going to turn into a penalty machine we might as well have kept Kemo.

Ike put up Mendy like numbers ... absolutely horrible. The one bright spot is Dwyer. He is turning me into a fan.