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Oviedo
09-07-2012, 04:05 PM
Time for Woodley to step it up and not wait until mid-season to be a beast. He has to deliver big starting in Game #1.



By Gerry Dulac / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Pro Bowl linebacker James Harrison did not practice for the second day in a row and will not play in Sunday night's season opener in Denver.
He will be replaced in the starting lineup by Chris Carter, who has been working at right outside linebacker since minicamp because of injuries to Harrison (knee) and top backup Jason Worilds (wrist).
The Steelers have not officially listed Harrison's status for the game. They will do that later today.
Harrison returned to practice for the first time since last season on Monday. If he didn't have any setbacks with his knee, the Steelers intended to start him against the Broncos.
Previously, Harrison made two other attempts to come back from his injury -- once at minicamp, once at training camp -- but each time his knee swelled when he tried to cut on it.

lloydroid
09-07-2012, 04:47 PM
This is sh-t. Worse yet, he could be toast for the season and maybe forever.
This really hurts our shot at a ring. Carter is no Harrison.

BigRob
09-07-2012, 04:56 PM
This is sh-t. Worse yet, he could be toast for the season and maybe forever.
This really hurts our shot at a ring. Carter is no Harrison.

I 100% believe we have seen the last of Harrison as an every down, every game OLB for the Steelers. He will rotate with Carter all season and he will be gone after the season.

As for Carter, of course he is not Harrison. Harrison wasn't Harrison until 2008. Carter has shown flashes, let's see how he progresses during the season.

hawaiiansteel
09-07-2012, 05:12 PM
I 100% believe we have seen the last of Harrison as an every down, every game OLB for the Steelers. He will rotate with Carter all season and he will be gone after the season.

As for Carter, of course he is not Harrison. Harrison wasn't Harrison until 2008. Carter has shown flashes, let's see how he progresses during the season.


hopefully Jason Worilds can step up also. I watched Sean Lee make 12 tackles against the Giants on Wednesday, it still irks me that we chose Worilds over Sean Lee especially since we had a first round grade on Lee.

lloydroid
09-07-2012, 05:18 PM
hopefully Jason Worilds can step up also. I watched Sean Lee make 12 tackles against the Giants on Wednesday, it still irks me that we chose Worilds over Sean Lee especially since we had a first round grade on Lee.

That does suck. I have seen NOTHING from Worilds so far. The first time I saw Harrison play I knew he was special. I don't get that feeling from any of the back ups we have now.

SidSmythe
09-07-2012, 05:44 PM
According to ESPN Harrison is QUESTIONABLE
According to HARRISON on Facebook, He will be a gametime decision

fezziwig
09-07-2012, 06:34 PM
hopefully Jason Worilds can step up also. I watched Sean Lee make 12 tackles against the Giants on Wednesday, it still irks me that we chose Worilds over Sean Lee especially since we had a first round grade on Lee.



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fezziwig
09-07-2012, 06:41 PM
What gets me is these teams, players are supposed to or should have the best medical staff available to them but yet, they allow Harrison to go all through off season, practically all of training camp to then learn he needs sugery. I realize surgery is the last thing you want but again, why could they have not known this earlier ?

As for no one can replace Harrison, that is true. Harrisons don't grow on trees and Carter despite all the chances, experience he may get he, will never bring the impact James has.

I don't see the value in Worilds as many of you have seen. I realize his playing time is little but from what I've seen he will only amount to be average at his job.

SteelCrazy
09-07-2012, 07:50 PM
James Harrison


Didn't make practice today, looks like it will be a game time decision.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/JamesHarrison92

SidSmythe
09-07-2012, 07:54 PM
What gets me is these teams, players are supposed to or should have the best medical staff available to them but yet, they allow Harrison to go all through off season, practically all of training camp to then learn he needs sugery. I realize surgery is the last thing you want but again, why could they have not known this earlier ?

As for no one can replace Harrison, that is true. Harrisons don't grow on trees and Carter despite all the chances, experience he may get he, will never bring the impact James has.

I don't see the value in Worilds as many of you have seen. I realize his playing time is little but from what I've seen he will only amount to be average at his job.

these are the same people who give clearance for people to come back from High ankle sprains and hamstring injuries within 2 weeks of getting injured.

hawaiiansteel
09-07-2012, 08:34 PM
According to ESPN Harrison is QUESTIONABLE
According to HARRISON on Facebook, He will be a gametime decision

James Harrison did not practice on Friday, so he will likely miss the Steelers' season opener Sunday night in Denver. usually when you don't practice on Friday you don't play...

lloydroid
09-07-2012, 10:26 PM
these are the same people who give clearance for people to come back from High ankle sprains and hamstring injuries within 2 weeks of getting injured.

That bothers the hell out of me

BradshawsHairdresser
09-08-2012, 08:46 AM
Some of y'all are making like just because Harrison may not play Sunday, his career is all but over. C'mon...the dude is only, what, three weeks removed from knee surgery?

Part-time this season and done afterward? Maybe. But I don't think you can use missing this game as evidence for that.

I think odds are that James has a good season and comes back next year.

Slapstick
09-08-2012, 08:53 AM
Some of y'all are making like just because Harrison may not play Sunday, his career is all but over. C'mon...the dude is only, what, three weeks removed from knee surgery?

Part-time this season and done afterward? Maybe. But I don't think you can use missing this game as evidence for that.

I think odds are that James has a good season and comes back next year.

Oh, come on!

James missed five games last year because of his back, right?

Oh...he had that freak broken orbital and then served a BS suspension for another game...

I have no doubt that Harrison's career is closer to the end than to the beginning, but it is not necessarily immanent...

hawaiiansteel
09-08-2012, 05:24 PM
Steelers notebook: Harrison not likely to play Sunday night

September 8, 2012
By Gerry Dulac / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

James Harrison would not classify his latest issue with his knee as a setback, even though the Pro Bowl outside linebacker is not expected to play Sunday night in Denver.

Harrison did not practice for the second day in a row Friday and is listed as questionable on the team's official injury report.

He will be replaced in the starting lineup by Chris Carter, who has been working at right outside linebacker since minicamp because of injuries to Harrison (knee) and top backup Jason Worilds (wrist).

This is the third time since spring that Harrison has had a comeback halted by a knee problem. In his other attempts -- once at minicamp, once at training camp -- his knee swelled each time he tried to cut on it.

Harrison said Friday he did not suffer a setback this time, nor is he worried about his knee.

"No, it's just sore," Harrison said. "The soft tissue just hasn't healed up."

Harrison returned to practice Monday for the first time since last season. The plan was for him to get enough reps to be able to start against the Broncos, provided he didn't have any problems with his knee. It is not known if the latest problem will cause Harrison to miss as much time as he did in the spring and summer.

"If the game were today, I couldn't play," Harrison said in a response to a question.

In addition to Harrison, running back Baron Batch also was listed as questionable, although he practiced Friday. Running back Rashard Mendenhall (knee) was listed as doubtful. Inside linebacker Stevenson Sylvester and safety Ryan Clark were ruled out.

DeCastro on new list

The Steelers did not waste any more time and placed rookie guard David DeCastro on the new injured reserve/designated to return list that allows him to come back after eight games.

Only one player per team can be designated for the list. DeCastro is allowed to resume practicing after six weeks and is eligible to come off the IR list in eight, although his recovery from a knee injury might be longer than that.

The Steelers made the move to make room on the 53-man roster for cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke, who was signed after being released by the Oakland Raiders. Van Dyke is in his second year from Miami.

Special teams to have captain

The Steelers did not appoint a special teams captain when they named Ben Roethlisberger (offense) and Brett Keisel (defense) as team captains for the 2012 season.

Instead, Tomlin will appoint a different special teams captain each week to go out for the coin toss. Veteran safety Will Allen could be the leading candidate to handle the duties in Denver.

Broncos pass rush formidable

Denver rookie defensive end Derek Wolfe already has worked himself into the starting lineup, and that is no surprise to the Steelers.

They spent a lot of time talking with the 6-foot-5, 300-pound lineman from Cincinnati at the scouting combine in Indianapolis and considered taking him high in the NFL draft.

But the Broncos beat them to it and took Wolfe in the second round. He plays at right end in their 4-3 alignment but slides inside in their sub packages.

Wolfe combines with defensive end Elvis Dumervil and linebacker Von Miller to give the Broncos three good pass rushers in the front seven.

"You have two of the premier [pass] rushers in the league, and they drafted a young guy in Wolfe," said offensive coordinator Todd Haley, who faced the Broncos twice a year when he was head coach in Kansas City. "They have active, physical guys who play hard."

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/steelers-notebook-harrison-not-likely-to-play-sunday-night-652389/#ixzz25uKhlmhT

steelz09
09-08-2012, 07:46 PM
No Harrison + No Clark = Me starting Peyton in fantasy football this week.

Sorry all. :HeadBanger:HeadBanger

Djfan
09-08-2012, 07:56 PM
No Harrison + No Clark = Me starting Peyton in fantasy football this week.

Sorry all. :HeadBanger:HeadBanger

This is THE reason I can't play ff. If I ever cheer for some one besides the Steelers (unless it's Eli against the Cheats), slap me. I can't get into this at all.

Slapstick
09-08-2012, 08:06 PM
No Harrison + No Clark = Me starting Peyton in fantasy football this week.

Sorry all. :HeadBanger:HeadBanger

No offense, but I think you may end up regretting that...

If it were a week 10 matchup, I might have started Peyton...but week 1? I think he's going to look pretty much like he looked in preseason...which is to say, not like Peyton Manning...

SidSmythe
09-08-2012, 08:08 PM
This is THE reason I can't play ff. If I ever cheer for some one besides the Steelers (unless it's Eli against the Cheats), slap me. I can't get into this at all.

I play, but I draft mostly NFC guys.....i do have D. Thomas starting b/c I think he's gonna have a huge season so I took him early, but I certainly won't be cheering him on. I have Calvin Johnson to make up for where he lacks SUnday Night

steelz09
09-08-2012, 08:32 PM
I'm not 100% sure I'll start him but even if I do start him, I won't necessarily "cheer" for him.

I've learned awhile ago that you have to take your homerism and/or favoritism out of fantasy football if you want to win. In some some leagues you have more options to select your players like salary-cap leagues.

You'd be a fool to not start the best player just because you don't like them.

Slapstick
09-08-2012, 08:54 PM
I'm not 100% sure I'll start him but even if I do start him, I won't necessarily "cheer" for him.

I've learned awhile ago that you have to take your homerism and/or favoritism out of fantasy football if you want to win. In some some leagues you have more options to select your players like salary-cap leagues.

You'd be a fool to not start the best player just because you don't like them.

I even like Peyton...I just don't think he's going to do as well as we were all accustomed to seeing from him...I think it will take time for him to achieve his usual form...

AkronSteel
09-08-2012, 08:59 PM
I'm actually ok with James sitting this week. He needs to get that knee right and it is a long season. Chris Carter showed himself admirably in the preseason and I think he will be able to hold his own at least for a game or two. I would rather James be healthy in November and December than try to push the knee now and create more issues later on. I think either way this is probably James last season in the Burgh at least under his current contract. The Steelers are going to need cap room for 2013 and James is on the backside of his career and his due something like 13 million next season!!! I love #92 just like the rest of you but when it's time to move on....it's time to move on!!! Just sayin'

fezziwig
09-08-2012, 09:01 PM
I'm more worried about the Broncos defense than I am Peyton. Well........I'm a little worried about Peyton too but never the less. Too many injuries to our players, Denver so badly out coached our coaches last year with Tebow as the Qb..... Some of our players and some of our coaches are on the decline........Hate to say I told you so after the game tomorrow so.....I'll say it now....I told you so.

hawaiiansteel
09-08-2012, 11:21 PM
Q&A: James Harrison

By Jim Wexell
SteelCityInsider.net
Posted Sep 6, 2012

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/107/1070080.jpg

James Harrison says he won't talk until Friday, but he talked to Jim Wexell on Thursday. Here's the Q&A, along with a note on Rashard Mendenhall's rehab and contract status.

PITTSBURGH – After participating in only half of Wednesday’s practice, James Harrison missed Thursday’s practice completely, and when he showed up in the locker room Harrison directed this reporter to a sign posted next to his locker that read:

“I will answer all questions on Fridays.”

Harrison signed the paper.

And there was another paper next to that one. It read:

“And only Fridays!!”

And that paper, too, was signed by Harrison, just in case anyone thought it might’ve been posted by his neighbor, rookie Adrian Robinson.

But Harrison gave this reporter the “A-OK” sign to go ahead and fire some questions at him anyway, and here’s the quick transcript:

Q. Does this mean you’ll miss the opener?

A. I don’t know. I’ll practice tomorrow, but we’ll see.

Q. Did it swell up again?

A. Nah, it just hurts.

Q. It looks a little swollen.

A. But it didn’t blow up like the last few times. Hey, it was something that was done just a couple of weeks ago. To be honest, any soft-tissue work you have done is an automatic four to six weeks.

Q. So you’re not going to play Sunday, are you?

A. We were trying to see if we could get there before four weeks, but it flared up a little bit. It didn’t really swell up, it just started hurting, so we’ll see tomorrow. I’ll practice tomorrow and see how I feel and we’ll go from there.

Q. Are you going to push it to play?

A. I’m not going to rush it. No, I’m not going to rush it.

IN THE BULLPEN

Chris Carter said that he and Jason Worilds rotated by series to replace Harrison at right outside linebacker at Thursday’s practice, and Carter wouldn’t presume that his full participation at training camp should make him the starter over Worilds, who has only practiced this week. However, LaMarr Woodley, the starting pass-rusher opposite Harrison, assumes that Carter would be Harrison’s first replacement.

“It’d be nice to have James out there,” Woodley said. “But you have to focus on who’s going to be out there, and I think Chris Carter’s been doing a great job throughout this whole training camp and preseason. A lot of people want to worry about the things he hasn’t had the opportunities to do, but that’s usually the time to shine, when people don’t really respect you out there on the football field. I think he’s going to be great.”

Last season Carter played in eight games as he struggled with a hamstring injury. He played linebacker in two games and special teams the rest of the time. He was credited with only 1 tackle and 1 special-teams tackle. But he’s a new man this year. This preseason Carter had a sack, 3 quarterback hits and 7 tackles.

“I’ve worked hard and done the best that I can,” he said. “So I’m just going to let the chips fall where they may.”

MENDENHALL LIKELY OUT

Running back Rashard Mendenhall looked very good on Monday, but he was nowhere to be seen Thursday. Did he practice?

“Not really,” Mendenhall said. “A little bit.”

So it’s unlikely that Mendenhall will play Sunday night in Denver, but that really hasn’t been in his plans. The key is that he’s nearing full strength after rehabilitating an ACL injury from New Year’s Day.

“I feel good,” he said. “I worked every day, so everything to this point is the best I could’ve done.”

Mendenhall said he’s been cutting on the leg since the team was in Latrobe and reports that all is well in that department.

“I’m making natural cuts with no hesitation or anything like that,” he said. “It can get sore here and there but that’s to be expected.”

The other issue with Mendenhall this week is his contract, which will expire at the end of this season.

Normally, the Steelers would be holding 11th-hour discussions with him, particularly since the Mike Wallace talks appear to be stalled, but Mendenhall hasn’t heard anything from his agent.

“I’ve been more focused on this rehab process,” he said. “At some point I’ll be talking to my agent and figure everything out, but I really haven’t started to get into that at all.”

But it remains a possibility all the way up until the door shuts on the team plane Saturday afternoon.

INJURY REPORT

ILB Larry Foote (ankle) returned to the practice field and he expects to play Sunday. Joining Harrison and Mendenhall on the sidelines were ILB Stevenson Sylvester (knee), OG David DeCastro (knee) and RB Baron Batch (groin).

http://pit.scout.com/2/1218927.html

Discipline of Steel
09-09-2012, 12:54 PM
Funny thing on Gameday, they mentioned James Harrison had declared himself a game time decision.
So despite what all the pundits say, James is in control.

flippy
09-09-2012, 01:55 PM
1. Apparently Tomlin and Co are afraid to tell James not to discuss his injuries.

2. The Standard is the Standard. We're probably going to be in a nickle as our based D 50%+ of the time. So we only need 3 LBs with 1 of them being a pass rusher. I think we should be thinking about Keisel being a LB/DE hybrid in the nickle. So moreso than needing Worldis or Carter to step up, I want Heyward, Hood, McCLendon to step up which could give us more flexibility with Keisel who could be one of our most dynamic players on D if given the opportunity.

steelz09
09-09-2012, 11:45 PM
I even like Peyton...I just don't think he's going to do as well as we were all accustomed to seeing from him...I think it will take time for him to achieve his usual form...

He looked pretty good out there tonight. And our defense got toasted.... I'm actually happy for Peyton. I'm not happy we lost and I'm not happy our defense looks incompetent but I'll give Peyton a lot of credit because I'm sure it took an unbelievable amount of rehab effort to get back where he is currently.